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UK politics - Hamsterwheel

Old 23rd Jun 2010, 11:08
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As someone has already pointed out, the 2.5% reduction in VAT didn't make me feel any richer. I have doubts that the 2.5% increase will make me feel poorer.

"Since we've known it was coming for a while, we've been looking into it at work, the consensus being bad luck if you were planning a new sofa, telly or washing machine or any other hefty priced consumer item."

You still have until the end of the year to make that purchase.
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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 11:25
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Speaking to folks around the Streets Park and Shops the general concensus seems to be to give this lot a chance,they appear to be a change from the two party musical chairs we have know since the war,however,but we shall see shan't we.
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Old 23rd Jun 2010, 11:30
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I noticed he scrapped the "Euro preparation team" in the treasury, when did the last lot announce we were joining the Euro?
I can't remember the exact wording, but to accomodate the divergent views of Blair (who would have joined immediately) and Brown (who was opposed, in all probablility for the simple reason that Blair was in favour), the previous government announced an agreement in principle to join the Euro, but only when certain conditions were met. Since Gordo decided those conditions, the whole issue was effectively kicked into the long grass, but it didn't stop them going through the motions of 'preparing', in order that Blair could save face.
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Old 24th Jun 2010, 09:04
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can’t spend money I don’t have, or afford to borrow. I, like every working man and woman have to live within my means or go bankrupt.

Wot? No mortgage then?
Something about "or afford to borrow" that’s confusing you Larssnowpharter?

I can explain, with pictures if it helps.
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Old 24th Jun 2010, 14:55
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I am hoping that 'call me Dave' and Nick will soon realise that Afghanistan is a no-hoper, costing many lives and much money in support of an 'ally' who increasingly treats the UK with contempt.

The PM should turn down his invitation to the White House and the accompanying gift (a Kewpie Doll from the 'Tacky Tat Man'?) and remember that most of the current financial mess originated in the US by deliberate greed coupled with failure by the authorities.

If an unfortunate accident is worthy of a swingeing fine, then what does deliberate fraud deserve?
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Old 24th Jun 2010, 18:19
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can’t spend money I don’t have, or afford to borrow. I, like every working man and woman have to live within my means or go bankrupt.

Wot? No mortgage then?
Something about "or afford to borrow" that’s confusing you Larssnowpharter?
Please accept my apologies. I respect your position and have been there myself.

That said, I talk to many Brits who will proudly announce that they 'pay off their credit cards by the end of the month' and then give a generalised diatribe against people who live in debt. Next topic seems to be how bloody clever they are switching their mortgages.

Carry on doing it the right way. Don't work for the banks!
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Old 24th Jun 2010, 20:54
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From Guido's website.....

Once upon a time there was a man who claimed he woke up every day to “fight for a fairer Britain”. Britain may have said no, but Gordon Brown was returned overwhelmingly by one small part of it to represent and fight for them for the next five years. But this man is refusing to represent them and has now gone missing. Finally we learn he has abandoned his responsibilities and is sticking two fingers up at representative democracy to instead obsessively watch every single World Cup match on telly.While he rocks back and forward in his underwear, ticking off the games on his free Daily Mirror World Cup pull-out wallchart, the taxpayer is picking up the tab.

Gordon was quick to head down to Parliament to sign on as present for the minimum time to receive his cheques, so that for an hour and a half of football he is set to make around £45+ per match, or just over £3000 for the sixty-four game tournament. Thousands would like to have gone to the World Cup if it wasn’t for the cost and yet the taxes that deprived them of the trip are paying for Gordon to watch. Where’s the “fairer Britain” there, Gordon ?

If Gordon Brown needs time to reflect, plot revenge, write his book, find himself, detox, or whatever it is he is doing all alone in Scotland – fine – he should not expect to be paid for the pleasure by the taxpayer. There are 93,272 constituents in Kirkcaldy who are completely disenfranchised from the political system while their elected representative broods in a darkened room. Brown needs to make a decision – walk into the sunset and break completely from the House of Commons, or engage in the job he was elected to carry out and is paid to do. While this situation is allowed to continue the taxpayer is being taken for a fool. It is time to blow the final whistle on Gordon’s sulky withdrawal from parliament. He should either resign or “get on with the job”…

*Fag-packet maths: 252 working days a year. 9 till 5 = 8 hours per day = 2016 hours per year. £64k divided hourly = £32 per hour = £48 per game. And that doesn’t include expenses.
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Old 27th Jun 2010, 17:34
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I am hoping that 'call me Dave' and Nick will soon realise that Afghanistan is a no-hoper, costing many lives and much money in support of an 'ally' who increasingly treats the UK with contempt.

The PM should turn down his invitation to the White House and the accompanying gift (a Kewpie Doll from the 'Tacky Tat Man'?) and remember that most of the current financial mess originated in the US by deliberate greed coupled with failure by the authorities.
Frostbite.....are you saying our Dear Leader is not the salvation to American Foreign Policy he was billed to be by your Media and Liberal leaders? I thought all would be Milk and Honey upon his election and his sorting out the failed policies of Dubya. Did I misread the UK and European news reports and forecasts?

Did the buyers of all those bad derivatives bear no responsibility in those transactions? It was all evil America's fault was it?

Your social welfare state along with most of Europe is financially skint....as is the USA.....that is the sad truth and it has nothing to do with American business alone. It has all to do with governments that spend too much money and cripple the private sector by removing investment capital in the way of TAXES.

Get a grip......you are just a small island nation now and not an Empire. You have to learn to live like one unfortunately as the flow of money and assets has long been cut off.

Perhaps the Royal Family can be convinced to contribute more to the economy than they do now.....as Royalty should they not set the example for the commonfolk?

Lord knows our "Elite Class" sure don't!
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Old 27th Jun 2010, 20:03
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The point with those dodgy derivatives is that they were sold with a (supposed) pedigree from (supposedly) reputable finance houses who had (supposedly) been vetted by the regulators and who carried first class credentials from the ratings agencies.

You are not wrong about the various governments or the lack of Empire, but the above is what triggered the crisis.


Basil, doesn't that silly man realise that only Whites can be racist?
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Old 27th Jun 2010, 21:23
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Perhaps the Royal Family can be convinced to contribute more to the economy than they do now
They contribute quite a lot actually - vast numbers of foreigners spend lots of money visiting the UK to gawp at them. And several of them achieve this by continuing to work a seven day week far beyond normal retirement age.

(Not that any of us are ever likely to be able to afford to retire, of course, now that the USA has screwed the world's financial system.)
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Old 1st Jul 2010, 12:29
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Nick Clegg calls on public to help scrap bad laws

One word: EUROPE.

Anything to do with Climate "Change".

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Old 1st Jul 2010, 15:16
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Printing a list of the 4,200 odd new laws that Noo Labour created would give us something to start on! Follow that with a list of the laws created by Brussels, then a list of the rest. That should create some useful work for the Civil Service Mandarins who may be facing early retirement. They could then give a name to the laws left after the cull, how about "Constitution" or is that too radical
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Old 1st Jul 2010, 17:02
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Nick Clegg calls on public to help scrap bad laws

Nick Clegg calls on public to help scrap bad laws

So which laws would you get rid of?

I would start by the one which requires almost all officialdom on the streets to have to walk around wearing these hideous hiz vis vests!
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Old 1st Jul 2010, 17:11
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The one where all our well paid, and democratically elected representatives duly duck their responsibilities and duties by asking us to do their work for them. Surely they know or have access to better information than us the General Public about which laws duplicate or overlap with existing statutes, and are better placed to sort the mess out than we.

I accept that it could be a worthwhile exercise for businesses and so on, but isn't that what bodies like Chambers of Commerce and the CBI exist for anyway.

Perhaps they could repeal the one where our elected representatives try to be all blokey and chummy with us. If it isn't a law some of them seem to behave like it is!


Cynical? Moi?
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Old 1st Jul 2010, 17:30
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Hasn't 'bad Laws' been scrapped already?
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Old 1st Jul 2010, 17:36
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But seeing as I have the opportunity how about repealing the Hunting With Dogs Act, and The Smoking Ban for a start.
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Old 1st Jul 2010, 17:41
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But seeing as I have the opportunity how about repealing the Hunting With Dogs Act, and The Smoking Ban for a start.
Those beagles would love that. Start chasing a few hares again and be able to go back to smoking
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Old 1st Jul 2010, 17:42
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With you on the smoking ban,soon be no local pubs left.
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Old 1st Jul 2010, 18:05
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Sorry fella's but he's looking to scrap BAD laws and the smoking ban fall into the category GOOD laws
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Old 1st Jul 2010, 18:19
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I see somebody's called for the law of gravity to be repealed on the grounds that it discriminates against fat people..................
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