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Old 29th May 2010, 12:53
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I think the likely reason is that he was so keen to hide his sexuality from close friends and family that he failed to divulge the fact that he was paying rent to his partner.

Of course he should have come clean about it but the intent to fiddle wasn't there, it was more an attempt to hide his personal life,which he should not really feel that he needed to do.

MP's such as Ben Bradshaw and Alan Duncan are quite openly gay but I suppose thinking about it I might have followed the same course.
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Old 29th May 2010, 13:04
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So why was he claiming for the rent? No one forced him to claim the money and no one would be any the wiser now about his sexuality. The excuse that he did not want it known the landlord was his partner is more about fraud than pink sword!
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Old 29th May 2010, 13:06
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At what stage does a casual friendship become a relationship under the regulations for MPs?
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Old 29th May 2010, 13:21
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We know what would happen to some Chav who has scammed 40 k from the benifits system,expecting the tax payer to fork out for his bit arse on the side is a tad much.
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Old 29th May 2010, 13:33
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Limpdick Obit has stated that the offending MP is 'one of the richest people he knows' . . .

. . . yet he wasn't averse to acquiring another 40,000 . . .

Funny old World . . .
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Old 29th May 2010, 13:38
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At what stage does a casual friendship become a relationship under the regulations for MPs
- better ask the two sweethearts, DC and NC

Can anyone explain the logic behind claiming this rent and how it supposedly 'hid' his sexuality from others eg family?

"Where are you sleeping, then David" - "Oh! in James Lundie's flat, of course - but we don't have joint bank accounts"
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Old 29th May 2010, 13:41
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That underlines my thinking that it wasn't done for the money but to divert attention from him being gay.I am not in any way defending what he has done merely stating that the reason for him doing it wasn't primarily for the shekels.

I am very surprised to see that he is odds on to survive in his job.I had just assumed that he would have to go.It looks a black and white issue to me,especially with him wielding the axe on spending.Top hole hypocrisy.
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Old 29th May 2010, 14:31
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surprised to see that he is odds on to survive in his job

That's because you are applying your (our) own set of rules of acceptable behaviour and decency.

You must get it into your head that they have a different set to operate by, and train yourself to think along those lines. If you manage that, please tell us how you did it.
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Old 29th May 2010, 14:33
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He's probably better qualified (and experienced) for his job than is Boy George:-
David Laws - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

George Osborne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 29th May 2010, 16:29
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That underlines my thinking that it wasn't done for the money but to divert attention from him being gay.I am not in any way defending what he has done merely stating that the reason for him doing it wasn't primarily for the shekels.

Not done for the money? - Come on - get real!

By not 'claiming' would surely have been a sure fire method of avoiding 'outing' of his sexuality in the first place - He could certainly afford it.
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Old 29th May 2010, 18:50
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Well he has done the right thing and resigned. Not the start that the coalition would have wanted!
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Old 29th May 2010, 18:51
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BBC News - Treasury Minister David Laws resigns over expenses
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Old 29th May 2010, 19:45
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I have always found it rather difficult to understand the opprobrium attracted by George Osborne. I suspect it's just the politics of envy. He's not done anything wrong - I mean selling off the gold wrong - just yet. When did that fat one-eyed maniac assault the pension funds?

It would be interesting to learn just how rigorous that nice Mr Clogg went in getting his whips to shake all the nasty bits out of LD MPs. This shows a lamentable absence of management and I expect that iDave will want power as well as blood for this embarrassment.

The problem that we are faced with is that a very able member of the government has resigned, and denied us the use of his considerable talents, because of his shabby and sordid domestic arrangements. I don't care if he bangs rabbits, but I do care if he does and he leases his flat from Bugs Bunny, even if he claims they don't share carrots. This analogy disturbs me somewhat.

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Old 29th May 2010, 20:14
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I can't believe that his family and friends were unaware of his sexuality (as he claims) . . .
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Old 29th May 2010, 20:15
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Laws resigns and Alexander reigns.

British politics are a tad absolutely strange?

So now there is a member of parliament, elected for a Scottish seat sitting in the British cabinet where he can vote in the house of commons as well as in his own parliament and yet a British member of parliament cannot vote in the Scottish parliament on a matter which would effect the constituencey of Nairn which is the constituency of Danny Alexander who is the Scotch minister sitting in the British parliament.
Don't you have a problem with the West Lothian question or what!
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Old 29th May 2010, 20:18
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That underlines my thinking that it wasn't done for the money but to divert attention from him being gay
The problem I have with this line of argument is I had no idea he was untl the story broke.

S/O, I do believe the pension fund raid was GB's second or third act as chancellor. Any road, it was shprtly after the BoE independence thing on interest rates, The scandal that that was has inexplicably never resulted in riots.
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Old 29th May 2010, 20:50
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If there is anyone out there with homicidal tendencies who wants to meet someone who's suicidal, please PM me. Please God, Danny Alexander? The man wouldn't know which fork to use.

iDave had best grow a pair and assert some control. I'm sure that the original agreement said that if someone resigned he'd be replaced by someone from the same party, but did they think to include (a) that the resignation was done in disgrace; and (b) that you replace a first-class mind with .. er .. Danny Alexander?

I'd rather have Laws in, with his questionable morals, than Alexander.

I should also point out that the Socialists were always reluctant to resign, This makes sense. By Monday, the moronic public would be more concentrated on Cheryl Cole and the result of the football tomorrow than to worry about any alleged impropriety. It is disturbing to think that this is the safest course, but NuLab has shown the way. Politics isn't about running the country any more - it's about staying in power. You voted us in - now, kneel to your masters!

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Old 29th May 2010, 21:01
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The law of unintended consequences?

Which side does the Telegraph bat for?
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Old 29th May 2010, 22:23
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Matthew Parris has defended the resignee on the basis that he was entitled to expenses and 'he could have claimed more than he did' . . .
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Old 30th May 2010, 08:52
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So now he's resigned, we can say that he fell on the pork sword.
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