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Old 27th May 2010, 20:04
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Cable's always bothered me.

I am certain that he's a sincere and honest man. He hasn't abused expenses, and as far as I know, apart from being a Labour supporter in his middle age, has done nothing reproachable.

What I do ask myself is - this business of having forecast the recession - can he really have been that prescient? Why would any rational man in possession of this knowledge have invested accordingly, reaped the rewards and joined the FT Rich List? If he's that good, he's no Warren Buffet.

I could be wrong, of course, but I have difficulty in finding Dr Cable very credible, to the same extent that I find any economists credible. Let's face it, if they knew what they were doing, they'd amass fortunes (as Keynes did, in a non-Keynesian world).

Moreover, his forays into the world of private enterprise appear to have been brief, especially during the days when chairmen would tear a hole in their scrotum, remove their left nut, put it on the table and belt it repeatedly with a crystal whisky glass to hold on to a good trader.

What is it they said in 'The Thick of it'? "They won't sack you now, you haven't been in for long, and it would make them look like idiots for appointing you in the first place".

He's snogged free enterprise a couple of times, but I am unconvinced (geddit?) that he's one of us.

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Old 28th May 2010, 09:59
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What I do ask myself is - this business of having forecast the recession - can he really have been that prescient?
I am reliably informed that Mr Cable successfully forecasted seventeen of the last two recessions.
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Old 28th May 2010, 10:12
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Vince Cable has been looking like he swallowed a bee ever since Cleggmania took off
Nah, he swallowed that bee on the day he was born.
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Old 28th May 2010, 15:43
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The House of Lords would disappear in a genertaion if they stopped awarding all these useless blodgers peerages.
John Prescot,"I would never accept a peerage"
Fat Arse!!
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Old 28th May 2010, 15:59
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Or are the Buy-to-Let mob and their cousins, the Garden Stealers now classed as Working Class?
'Ere! I resemble that remark!

I 'buy to let' and have 3 places at the moment. They provide - or will, hopefully, provide - a source of income for me and mine when I finally retire. They will also give the sproglettes a decent start in life, help pay college fees etc thus adding cash to the merry-go-round.

All have been bought from my capital. No banks or building societies involved thus the risk - and profit - is all mine.

What I never did was 'invest' in 'vehicles' touted by the spivs working for various investment outfits. Second hand bits of companies and other stuff I am, frankly, either too thick or really just cannot be bothered to understand.

One strange thing, though, is that one of the places I own is what Estate Agents call an 'ex Local Authority' house. (Used to be a Council House' when I were a lad). This property is now leased back to the local Local Authority at commercial rates and makes a ROI of around 10% net. Better than I could do at the banks and I know nowt about stock markets.

'Go figure' as the Cousins would say.
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Old 28th May 2010, 16:26
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"Garden Stealing " is tax exempt anyway,as long as the garden in question is part of your main residence.
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Old 28th May 2010, 16:56
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" The sooner Osborn gets reshuffled and goes back to studying the Druid's cooking methods and is replaced "

I beg to differ. He's possibly the most potent weapon Labour have got for a return to power.

I was truly inspired .......by the part of his speech when he proclaimed about "rolling up our sleeves".......said with all the inflection of an early 20th century Tory addressing the peasants who knew their place...to a Tory way of thinking that is.

Rolling up one's sleeves in leafy Tatton is only done by the minions....alas, George, despite having been processed by a well known University along with his chums, does not seem to be educated in any way. It would be fun to be a fly on the wall when he gets out into the big world and meets others from different States...who are.

Keep up the good work George...Labour needs you !....
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Old 28th May 2010, 17:13
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Can I take it, then, that the economy will be improved if I carry out some random acts of vandalism?
Maggie Thatcher certainly believed so
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Old 28th May 2010, 17:41
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I beg to differ. He's possibly the most potent weapon Labour have got for a return to power.
mmm because Labour's fiscal policies have been a success ?

to date, at every policy, they have made an absolute fking disaster look like a picnic.

just what the country needs.

I was truly inspired .......by the part of his speech when he proclaimed about "rolling up our sleeves".......said with all the inflection of an early 20th century Tory addressing the peasants who knew their place...to a Tory way of thinking that is.
Typical of the Labour diatribe PR; Making a simply analogy into some pretense about superiority.

Meanwhile, Prescott who decried peerages and vowed he would never accept one, takes a peerage.
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Old 28th May 2010, 17:50
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Apparently it's 'for Pauline' . . .

(can't find the 'you anchor' icon )
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Old 28th May 2010, 17:52
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'invest' in 'vehicles'
Shades of Lord Brocket and various Ferraris (sp?) The father did a good Farmer (Get orf moi laand) Palmer impression too,
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Old 28th May 2010, 17:57
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So it was made illegal because of this?

BBC News - Teenagers' deaths 'not caused by mephedrone'
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Old 28th May 2010, 19:29
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Apparently it's 'for Pauline'
Congratulate the guy.

He found a legitimate way to turn that trashy bint into a Lady.

That's more than he ever did for his diary secretary.
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Old 29th May 2010, 08:15
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The 'Laws' of Parliamentary Allowances

OK - who snitched on him? Vince Cable? (is it odd that he 'resigned the Party Deputy Leadership this week - is he now 'inline' for the job?), a jilted lover? How has it taken so long (2006) for this to come to light?
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Old 29th May 2010, 08:46
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I think I'll nick a million or so from somewhere, and if I get caught, I'll simply apologise.
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Old 29th May 2010, 08:55
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It would pay you to add "Lessons will be learned" Mr Rivits, four words that forgive all sin.
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Old 29th May 2010, 09:12
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I would imagine that it's pretty well impossible to have such a domestic arrangement without some sort of leakage.If Vincenzo knew then certainly a whole load of others did too.Of those at least one realised that if he snitched this to the Street of Shame a resultant spike would occur on his bank account.

I have some sympathy for Laws.Just because he's played a tune on the pink oboe doesn't disqualify him from office.Sadly,due to his attempts to cover his tracks that may now be the outcome.
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Old 29th May 2010, 09:23
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K n c, I follow your logic on this but I think he will get reshuffled PDQ.Why is it that those who express a contrary opinion are labelled as "Labour"?

I like to see the merits of people and give them a chance.In the case of the coalition I feel that way.Boy George however I think has already said enough to tell me what I want to know.He is a dilettante in the mould of the Wodehousian toffs,amusing,but as about as much use as a barbed wire canoe.

Labour desperately need Campbell as an inside operator.As a leader he would scare them stiff.Witness Downing St's panic at his appearance on QT this week.Intellectually head and shoulders above the rest.
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Old 29th May 2010, 11:09
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Not to worry, I gather that his "case" will be heard by a Committee of MPs, who will decide whether or not he is guilty, or rather, to use their form of that word, "misguided". If he is the same Committee will then decide what penalty he must pay, selecting it from those available like a one-month ban from the Tea Room.

This is a justice system based on the Judge and Jury being one and the same, as well as being friends of the accused whose guiding principle is "There - but for the Grace of God - go I".

The rest of you peasants, when you steal public funds, get investigated by the Police, charged by the CPS, tried by a Jury, and sent down by a Judge. How heart-warming it is to know that the MPs and Ministers who work tirelessly and selflessly on our behalf are still exempt from this tiresome procedure, and that the fuss created by the discovery last year that they were all at it has not changed things one iota.
 
Old 29th May 2010, 11:26
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It is not his 'musical 'skills that are in question. He is free to play whatever tunes he likes. The 'regulations' on his claims changed in 2006. Is it likely he failed to notice the enquiry into MP's expenses claims? If you answer yes on the postcard, should he be running the country's finances?
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