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Old 8th Nov 2017, 14:50
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Originally Posted by Sallyann1234 View Post
What kind of holiday is it that includes 12 meetings with government members?
She must have a very understanding family! A cynic might be doubtful she really did pay for it all herself, especially transportation to such places as the Golan Heights.

It is a disgrace to our democracy.
Not if they are transparent about it.
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Old 8th Nov 2017, 15:28
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Originally Posted by Eclectic View Post
People should research Conservative friends of Israel. It finances the Conservative Party, chooses candidates and decides policy. Their website boasts all this. Most Conservative MPs are members. They are taken on junkets to Israel where minders make sure they only get the messages that Israel wants. It is a disgrace to our democracy.
Presumably, Common Purpose told you that?

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Old 8th Nov 2017, 15:32
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Originally Posted by charliegolf View Post
Presumably, Common Purpose told you that?

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There is this dispatches documentary.
What they are doing is not transparent.
They have a huge influence on Government policy.
Learn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=0E70BwA7xgU
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Old 8th Nov 2017, 15:45
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Originally Posted by Effluent Man View Post
All the more remarkable then that this useless government is showing him up in such a positive light.
I can only agree with you.
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Old 8th Nov 2017, 16:03
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I wonder where the nearest Job Centre is to Downing St? Her flight (assuming it was the Kenya Airways one) arrived almost 2 hours ago so she should be looking to register at the Job Centre as unemployed.
Her stunt re the Golan Heights was staggering in its naivety. Imagine the the scene:
"you remember that place in Syria we knocked the crap out of in 1967 and then illegally occupied it for 50 years"
Yes.
"Well, it seems the people there are fed up, homeless and hungry. Would you mind slipping us a few million quid so we can give them a few treats, such as medicine, food & tents?"
Why not? There's a few million soft buggers in the UK and there's no need to tip them off where their money is going.

And Boris should be informed he is not allowed out without a responsible adult in future!
And, if Mrs. May is running out of bodies to put in the cabinet, well, didn't she buy a whole political off for £10Billion recently?
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Old 8th Nov 2017, 16:13
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I wonder where the nearest Job Centre is to Downing St? Her flight (assuming it was the Kenya Airways one) arrived almost 2 hours ago so she should be looking to register at the Job Centre as unemployed.
still an MP until the next election unless she resigns - which is highly unlikely. Also highly unlikely, in light of the their fragile majority, to lose the party whip.

So a pay cut, as she loses here ministerial salary, but nowhere near the Job Centre.
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Old 8th Nov 2017, 16:50
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still an MP
Yes, I know!
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Old 8th Nov 2017, 17:39
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Kenya Airways flight? Punishment enough shurely.

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Old 8th Nov 2017, 18:22
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Patel has, er, quit.

Not sacked I suppose that means.
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Old 8th Nov 2017, 19:01
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Being instructed to return (from Kenya?) before your first meeting (ie immediately on landing) would indicate that things weren't what they used to be . . .
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Old 8th Nov 2017, 19:36
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jeremy Corbyn spent much of his political life as an obscure old fashioned father figure of the left but the May government has propelled him to superstar staus with the yung and disadvantaged of this country and probably the enxt PM.

So would that be so bad

He would make rich people pay more tax --good
He would make middle class peopel paya bit more tax-not so good

he might reverse brexit- good
He might not reverse Brexit Good if youare thatway inclined

He wouldnt grovel to the USA as much as recent PMs good

He might scrap trident-good unless you work for BAe systems but we cannot afford it and cannot sue it without the yanks approval -on balance good

He might scrap student loans-generally good.

He might give the Unions more power-good people are treated like sh+t in todays workplace.

Like all labour poltiicans he might accept compromising contributions from said unions -bad

But then they are British and not foreign government entities or big business, always foreign these days as there is no British big business. so he is justas corrupt but more patriotic


he might introduce Stalinist labour camps-bad, oh sorry thats just what the daily Mail will say at the next election , not actually true.

He might take some serious steps to curtail the Murdochisation of the media in Uk -good

So he is surely not perfect but is he actually that bad compared to the current hopelessly weak and divided and corrupt lot in power now?

Answers on a postcard please to BBC, Pinko leftie bias department London W1 A
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Old 8th Nov 2017, 20:02
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I have voted Labour all my life until this year. And yes, I think he would be bad for the country. I am however now having my doubts as to whether he would be able to do more harm than this present crew.
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Old 8th Nov 2017, 22:10
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He might scrap trident-good unless you work for BAe systems but we cannot afford it and cannot sue it without the yanks approval -on balance good
Rubbish, how are the yanks going to stop the UK using a missle? The only part of the system is the missle itself, the warheads are UK manufactured and the US has no control of UK boats. Us boats have a system that will only allow a weapon to be fired if the submarine recives a launch code. The UK boats have no such restriction and operate under the duel consent mode.

More leftie propoganda *********** Im afraid.
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 05:48
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I know many here will find it hard to click the link but this piece seems (IMHO) to give a fairly even handed view of the state of play at the moment:

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-suzanne-moore

BTW just been looking at the pics in some of today's papers (across the spectrum) ... I get the impression Priti Patel doesn't look overly upset about all this...
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 06:32
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Rob: I remember listening to an interview with a former RN submarine commander who revealed that when surfacing after a period dived, they would listen for BBC Radio. If nothing was heard they would assume the worst and break out the nuclear targetting instructions.
Wiggy: Re Patel; that grin looks almost fixed! I wonder if she had been bashing the bar on board her flight home?
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 06:49
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What planet was Patel on? Bad enough to go swanning around holding meetings and not reporting them

but then to get off with a slap onthe wrist and not mention the other 999 meetings when they've been posted on Israeli Social Media........................ complete idiot clearly
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 07:07
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It's not Corbyn you need to be analysing.
It's Jon Landsman of Momentum, John McDonnell the shadow finance minister, the bitter and hate filled Angela Rayner and of course, the bovine Diane Abbott, you'd need to be examine to see what will happen in Britain when JC gets in. He's naught but a Trojan Horse for the Marxists.
Right now, El Trumpo is looking like a statesman of international stature.
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 07:20
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Right now, El Trumpo is looking like a statesman of international stature.
On which planet do you live?
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 08:24
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Well, northern hemisphere of Venus notwithstanding, which is probably a lost thought anyway, it is to be hoped it's the one where El Trump will win a second term and Ivanka will win two more after him.
By that time Europe will be either am even greater protectionist empire, in which case Britain will be a satellite state used as a Euro penal colony or Britain will be in the ascendancy, riding on the US coat tails and Europe will be at war with itself.
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Old 9th Nov 2017, 08:40
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A few more cuts in force size and the UK Military and the UK become insignificant.

Perhaps that might be a good thing for a short period of time.

But then someone has to pay the Piper in currency that is very expensive.

All that social welfare is nice thing until you do what Maggie warned....."Run out of other people's money to spend".


Britain will lose Nato clout if defence cuts continue, warns top US general
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