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Old 10th Aug 2017, 13:55
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Originally Posted by SASless View Post
Bad news for Jug Ears and Camilla it appears!

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/roya...021200634.html
Hmm, if true I'm sure the UK press would have picked this story up. As it is they seem to be leading with a scare about contaminated eggs..
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 14:00
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I did not say it was true.....but it is a recurring question as with each day it would appear a race to the finish to see who is sitting down when the music stops for one of them.....the Queen or Charles.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 14:07
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SAS, you keep telling us Brits we don't know how your system works!

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Old 10th Aug 2017, 15:03
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I'm sure it's a spoof, but frankly if it were true then I rather think a lot of people would think it was a sensible decision to make.

FWIW, I don't think the Queen has the real power to decide who will be heir apparent, as I'm pretty sure it's defined by the Bill of Rights, the Act of Settlement and the Perth Agreement reforms. The authority rests with the Accession Council, but I think even their power is limited to being just a rubber stamp job, in effect.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 16:54
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Load of old tosh! The Queen is known to be a stickler for protocol and tradition. It is inconceivable she would agree to such a plan and there is also no sign of her wishing to abdicate.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 17:11
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K&C

Hello. Not sure about the statistics. I havent seen any or indeed looked for such.
However, one only needs to consider the allegations against those in positions of trust, like Priests (who by definition are not muslim) and some abusive "carers" of foster children in homes to immediately know the problem is not a predominantly muslim one.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 17:15
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CG.....at exactly what point did I tell ya how "your" system works re the Royal Promotion system?

I merely posted an article and opined that could be bad news for Jug Ears.

By saying that it would seem one would have to assume the article was factual, true, and based upon pukka gen.

I made no claim to any of that.

As it is not my Circus and not my Monkeys....how all this turns out has no effect upon me other than if the Big Chair gets presented to other than Charles...I would find a lot of entertainment out of that as Charles certainly comes across poorly on this side of the Salt Water Divide whereas his First Born and Wife seem quite a different pair than their Elders.

We over here always thought Charles married up (the first time) rather than the other way around. That certainly did not hold for his second swing of the bat.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 17:16
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Originally Posted by D SQDRN 97th IOTC View Post
K&C

Hello. Not sure about the statistics. I havent seen any or indeed looked for such.
However, one only needs to consider the allegations against those in positions of trust, like Priests (who by definition are not muslim) and some abusive "carers" of foster children in homes to immediately know the problem is not a predominantly muslim one.
It appears to be predominantly, but not exclusively, a Muslim problem.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 17:31
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And the evidence for such an assertion ?
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 17:32
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
You might want to add those white males who go to Asian countries looking specifically for under age sex.

The statistics do, on the surface, offer an disproportionate representation of the ethnicity of those committing these vile crimes against vulnerable girls / children.

However, it would be interesting to see comparative statistics for the white males from various Christian religions, youth organisations, the teaching profession ( to name but three sources of such people ) for those on here embarking on trying to exemplify one particular grouping as being the sole participants when it comes to child abuse.
Another interesting comparison would be to research the number of non Muslim people who force their wives to cover up, limit their access to any kind of recognisable social freedom, trust them as second class citizens whilst they walk behind them as they strut like peacocks is today's modern style dress verses Muslim men who allow their wives complete and unfettered access to the western way of life.

What do you reckon that research would show?
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 17:34
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Originally Posted by Krystal n chips View Post
You might want to add those white males who go to Asian countries looking specifically for under age sex.

The statistics do, on the surface, offer an disproportionate representation of the ethnicity of those committing these vile crimes against vulnerable girls / children..
K&C

It is distressingly true that thousands of 'white' males travel to the Far East, Sri Lanka, Philippines etc in search of underage sex. But I doubt a numbers game would support your point of view.

The thousands of sex tourists pale into insignificance set against the hundreds of thousands of males in those societies who see underage sex (as we would understand it) as perfectly normal.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 17:39
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Folk defending Islam, it's easy pickings as it's indefensible.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 17:47
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An interesting article on the question of religious bias in child abuse.

https://amp.theguardian.com/commenti...ism-takes-root

It is from the Guardian so it must be true.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 17:58
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Whilst these gangs are horrific and deserve so much more than they are sentenced to they are mainly headline grabbers. The majority of paedophiles are known to the victim.

Lifted directly from Wikipedia

Most sexual abuse offenders are acquainted with their victims; approximately 30% are relatives of the child, most often brothers, fathers, uncles, or cousins around 60% are other acquaintances, such as "friends" of the family, babysitters, or neighbors; strangers are the offenders in approximately 10% of child sexual abuse cases.

The same article states that the highest prevalence of self disclosure is in Africa, USA/Canada and Australia and the lowest in Europe Asia and South America.

Whilst it's nice and comfy for the predominately white middle aged to older males of Christian background to blame Muslim sex gangs the data really shows that is so wide of the mark.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 18:11
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Back to Boeing

Thank you for a bit of common sense.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 21:50
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I don't think that white middle aged males here on JB are unaware that the great majority of sexual abuse (particularly child) is carried out by family and close family friends. It certainly is no great surprise to me. But I don't get the relevance here.

These girls were targeted, beaten and raped and forced into prostitution. A far cry from 'Tommy's evil Uncle Ernie'.

And, if there is no ethnic/cultural dimension involved, can someone explain the over-representation of Pakistani men.

Like knife crime, moped-mugging and acid attacks, the systematic grooming of young/underage girls by gangs of men is new to this country. As Baldrick might ask: "how has this happened?"
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 22:25
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Originally Posted by back to Boeing View Post
Whilst these gangs are horrific and deserve so much more than they are sentenced to they are mainly headline grabbers. The majority of paedophiles are known to the victim.

Lifted directly from Wikipedia

Most sexual abuse offenders are acquainted with their victims; approximately 30% are relatives of the child, most often brothers, fathers, uncles, or cousins around 60% are other acquaintances, such as "friends" of the family, babysitters, or neighbors; strangers are the offenders in approximately 10% of child sexual abuse cases.

The same article states that the highest prevalence of self disclosure is in Africa, USA/Canada and Australia and the lowest in Europe Asia and South America.

Whilst it's nice and comfy for the predominately white middle aged to older males of Christian background to blame Muslim sex gangs the data really shows that is so wide of the mark.
Any mention of religion or ethnicity in that cut and paste?

Now about the subjugation of women of Islam, care to offer an opinion/defence on that?
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 22:59
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Originally Posted by Seldomfitforpurpose View Post
Any mention of religion or ethnicity in that cut and paste?

Now about the subjugation of women of Islam, care to offer an opinion/defence on that?
Why should I. The same happens in the Christian "faith"

"Oh he's just a dirty old German screwing a little Thai girl. That's ok. He's not a darkie.
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 04:03
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Is the outrage because they of the victims age - or because they are white?

There is seems to no urge to act where they are younger and from other backgrounds......

FGM: Lack of convictions 'a national scandal' - BBC News
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Old 11th Aug 2017, 06:21
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The opinions of Wesley Brown, special advisor to Jeremy Corbyn..

https://mobile.twitter.com/WesleyBro...2d203dd84d5a95

About as sick as it gets!

From his own profile...

Wesley Brown
@WesleyBrownLab
Loving Husband and Father, Labour Party Activist, The New Politics. Special Adviser to RT. Hon Jeremy Corbyn MP
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