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Old 3rd May 2017, 16:27
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Originally Posted by Old Nic View Post
Seldom, I agree, The EU game plan is quite blatant from where I stand
Why would/should the EU give UK a deal that is better than the deal any of the 27 gets? Of course TM is talking tough- there's an election on the way- but does anyone think we're going to come out with a free trade, no free movement deal. For Free? She'll get the alimony down to 50 billon. Then she'll say that was a victory- 'we showed 'Jonny Foreigner'- and where will we be then? Same as everywhere NOT in the EU. Will we get a better deal than them?

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Old 3rd May 2017, 16:47
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CG,

If you reverse engineer the current viewpoint you have to ask yourself the question as to why the EU is doing it's level best to make things as difficult as possible? Why all the water muddying and the now daft notion that we are going to have to pay 100 billion euros as a divorce bill?

If the EU is such a wonderful place, such a success story, such a land of milk, honey and enlightenment then surely us leaving is not going to be a problem. Surely is just a case of settle your bar bill, a quick shake of hands and a bon voyage to one and all.

The fact that the EU is doing it's absolute damnedest to make things as difficult as it possibly can and to be clearly trying to influence the election outcome with these actions surely leads you to question just how well the EU machine is actually working.

IMHO they are absolutely sh1tting themselves about our departure because of the loss of our input each year. Add to that once we have done away with freedom of movement where are all the new EU economic migrants going to flood to, Germany and France must be loving that idea.

It's even more ironic that in the run up to June 23rd we were constantly being told by Remainers that our contribution each year was around the 8 billion mark yet no Remainers are currently prepared to stand up and question this ridiculous 100 billion figure, we have to pay almost 12 years membership fee's just to leave, WTF is that all about?
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Old 3rd May 2017, 16:54
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A more expansive report to the one provided by the BBC...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...neral-election

Emily Thornberry, another popular and much applauded female Labour MP on here, summates her stance in terms which should induce the inevitable reaction, factual comments usually do, on here.

However, the little lecture to the world would seem to have more than a passing resemblance to a derivative of the famous remark by a British Lions Capt....the derivative being "get your excuses in first " .

Finally, we can only muse as to how many of the faithful indulged in a favourite predilection of those on the right....the fantasy image of her at the lectern, clad in a Cap and Gown and holding a cane......feel free to admit to your Freudian desires .....chaps !
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Old 3rd May 2017, 17:01
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Of course there is always an alternative viewpoint as opposed to the rabid facile dribblings of a second rate poly who could well be out of a job in a few weeks time.

Theresa May gambles that row with Brussels will help her win election
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Old 3rd May 2017, 17:07
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the rabid facile dribblings of a second rate poly who could well be out of a job in a few weeks time.
Are you talking about Appeaser May here?
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Old 3rd May 2017, 17:24
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Are you talking about Appeaser May here?
Mrs may out of a job? No some second rate Labour poly who could well be out of a job come June 9th, in fact there could well be quite a few of them from that party
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Old 3rd May 2017, 17:45
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The major players in Europe are going to make it difficult and possibly expensive for the UK to leave to demonstrate to any other nation thinking of leaving in the future, u that it won't be a 'walk in the park'!
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Old 3rd May 2017, 18:38
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Why would/should the EU give UK a deal that is better than the deal any of the 27 gets?
Seeing something that isnt even in my post CharlieGolf.
I agree, we should expect F all from the EU and vice-versa, tell em to shove it, we are leaving, the EU has no hold on us, back to business
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Old 3rd May 2017, 19:12
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Originally Posted by charliegolf View Post
Why would/should the EU give UK a deal that is better than the deal any of the 27 gets?
Is any actually asking for a better deal than any of the EU members get?. The UK is just looking for a different deal - a deal that won't have some of the benefits of EU membership like Freedom of Movement.

The only way that could be considered a better deal is if you don't think FoM is a benefit - but the EU claim it is, so from their perspective any deal outside of EU membership is worse.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 19:48
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Originally Posted by Old Nic View Post
Seeing something that isnt even in my post CharlieGolf.
I agree, we should expect F all from the EU and vice-versa, tell em to shove it, we are leaving, the EU has no hold on us, back to business
Agreed ON, I jumped in quick and answered a different question
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Old 4th May 2017, 02:54
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A certain deal keeps getting mentioned.....

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...brexit-cartoon
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Old 4th May 2017, 03:54
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What's going with the Royal Family that necessitates and All Hands Meeting at Buckingham Palace with very short notice?
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Old 4th May 2017, 07:18
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What's going with the Royal Family....
Nothing. Unless you believe the Daily Wail.
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Old 4th May 2017, 09:18
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Emily Thornberry, another popular and much applauded female Labour MP on here ...
The same Labour MP who endeared herself to "the White Van Man" some time back? They do have some right 'charlies' on their front bench.


Some time back, when the GDR was such a 'paradise' to live in barriers were put up to stop people from leaving and those that attempted to do so were dealt with harshly. Would there be any parallels with the way that that modern 'paradise', the EU, is attempting to deal with those who wish to leave?

Can the EU really survive without the UK? Or put it another way, can the EU really survive without the UK being a friend and good trading partner? There is so much by the Remoaners about the UK 'not being able to survive' without being shackled to the EU, but isn't the future of the EU without getting on favourably with the UK a much bigger problem for the EU? Any internal problems facing the UK's future are tiny compared with the internal problems facing the EU's future. For their own good the EU would do best by getting on well with an independent UK.
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Old 4th May 2017, 09:20
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
As Corbyn doesn't drink alcohol, I suppose all he can do when he gets home at night is to make a cup of tea, sit down and gently sob to himself.
Did he give up drinking just after waking up with Diane Abbot?
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Old 4th May 2017, 09:24
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What's going with the Royal Family that necessitates and All Hands Meeting at Buckingham Palace with very short notice?
Prince Philip to step down from carrying out royal engagements - BBC News

Best wishes to him. He's been an incredible public servant and has earned his retirement.
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Old 4th May 2017, 10:06
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Actually, Prince Philip is now living proof of reincarnation.....the Sun, as ever, showing those factual journalistic standards for which the rag is renowned........

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...rgency-meeting


The same Labour MP who endeared herself to "the White Van Man" some time back? They do have some right 'charlies' on their front bench.

That's the lady....well done, however, satire seems to float over your head like those pretty cumulous clouds that adorn our skies in the glorious Summer ( subject to change without notice ) that awaits us.....and with regard to "white van man", which I was, for a while, we won't mention the N.I debacle c/o the current Chancellor.


Some time back, when the GDR was such a 'paradise' to live in barriers were put up to stop people from leaving and those that attempted to do so were dealt with harshly. Would there be any parallels with the way that that modern 'paradise', the EU, is attempting to deal with those who wish to leave?


No, although it depends on how desperate you are to make constant analogies with Germany in the past, many on here are and do, of course.


Can the EU really survive without the UK? Or put it another way, can the EU really survive without the UK being a friend and good trading partner? etc, etc, etc


Hmmm ? you seem to have missed a "somewhat extensive thread" on this topic elsewhere on these hallowed forums

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Old 4th May 2017, 10:07
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Best wishes to him. He's been an incredible public servant and has earned his retirement.
Indeed. I'm looking forward to mine at 61 and I'm over 40 years younger...
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Old 4th May 2017, 10:18
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I have the greatest admiration for Prince Philip, because of his dedication to supporting the Queen, his considerable workload of royal engagements and other commitments, but most of all because he's made me chuckle, many, many times by speaking his mind.

In an age where it seems that everything is manipulated to some degree, he seems to have managed to express his own views, and been accepted all the more for that, even if some of his comments often weren't very politically correct.
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Old 4th May 2017, 11:03
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Kelvin,

It appears the Mail was ahead of many news outlets.....even a blind hog can find an acorn now and then!
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