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Old 3rd May 2017, 08:56
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Apart from being incompetent Abbott is a liar.

She didn't do 7 interviews she did 5 and the LBC interview was the 3rd one of those five.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 08:59
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That's a bit harsh. After all, it's already been established that she has issues around numeracy........
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Old 3rd May 2017, 09:11
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Things must be really bad for Labour to turn their guns on the BBC...

John McDonnell calls Radio 4 presenter a 'scallywag' and accuses BBC of spreading 'Conservative lies'

I'll see your "Mugwump" and raise you one "Scallywag"!
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Old 3rd May 2017, 09:22
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You've got it wrong. Labour's mathematics are brilliant.

They have worked out how to spend the same amount of tax money several times over! The Tories are so wasteful - they have always failed to use that formula.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 09:25
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Originally Posted by ORAC View Post
Shadow Home Secretary has been given a detailed brief the day before on a new policy which is solely within her department. The next day she is in the 6th of 7 interviews concerning said policy and has a total brain fart, freezes, and talks gibberish for several minutes as she cannot get her, albeit limited, faculties together to handle the real time problem as it occurs.

Forget the 7th interview, would you really want this woman as the Home Secretary, during a major incident in the Cobra Briefing Room or elsewhere, being asked for serious immediate off the cuff decisions?

I mean, really?

Answers on the back of a postcard...
I strongly suspect she wasn't getting her faculties together, more likely she was frantically gesturing to the aide sat next to her to write the figure down on a piece of paper and pass it to her. I think it would have been more of a disaster if the LBC interview had actually taken place on the telly where there would have been no escape route at all.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 10:55
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It's only a poll and we all know how they have worked out recently

Tories on course to become biggest party in West Midlands - Sky Data

but this goes a long way toward explaining the deafening silence from labour supporters both here and across the social media spectrum.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 11:21
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" but this goes a long way toward explaining the deafening silence from labour supporters both here and across the social media spectrum"

Quite how you arrive at the "deafening silence" observation is something of a mystery really.

JB has long been a haven for those aligned to the opposite side of the political spectrum to Labour, but, those of us who are not aligned have duly been commenting accordingly.

As for social media, would you care to offer any exemplifications ( Sky excepted ) to substantiate your statement because, thus far, and until the manifestos are actually published, other than a gaffe or two from Labour / Lib Dems, the odd contribution from Boris and the entertainment offered by UKIP, there hasn't really been a lot to comment on.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 11:36
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"Coalition of Chaos" seems an increasingly accurate description.....

Labour HQ Rebuttal Document Contradicts Corbyn Five Times
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Old 3rd May 2017, 11:49
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Jeremy Vine show suggesting that the attacks against Ms Abbott are racially motivated.

I agree that personal attacks are disgusting and should be erased from the debate.

I do not dislike Ms Abbott because of her gender, colour or BMI.

I dislike her because she is an incompetent, hypocritical Politician who has absolutely no leadership skills and will bend whichever way the political breeze is blowing. Yesterdays interview showed her at the top of her game.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 11:50
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And Boom

Tory ad warns of 45bn Labour tax and debt 'bombshell'

Labour's spending plans are blown out of the water
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Old 3rd May 2017, 12:06
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Originally Posted by Wyler View Post
Jeremy Vine show suggesting that the attacks against Ms Abbott are racially motivated.

I agree that personal attacks are disgusting and should be erased from the debate.

I do not dislike Ms Abbott because of her gender, colour or BMI.

I dislike her because she is an incompetent, hypocritical Politician who has absolutely no leadership skills and will bend whichever way the political breeze is blowing. Yesterdays interview showed her at the top of her game.
She herself was branded a racist, and castigated by many in her own party for saying, "White people love playing 'divide & rule" back in 2012.

Just one of her many instances of "misspoke".
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Old 3rd May 2017, 13:25
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" I dislike her because she is an incompetent, hypocritical Politician who has absolutely no leadership skills and will bend whichever way the political breeze is blowing. Yesterdays interview showed her at the top of her game.

Alas, in this respect, you seem to have missed Boris, and, of course, that nice Mr Gove.....
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Old 3rd May 2017, 13:46
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Boris, and, of course, that nice Mr Gove.....
On the scale of competence, like them or loathe them, any rational person would have to agree that they are both way, way above Diane Abbott.

(This wouldn't perhaps be that socialist politician who sent her son to a private school, would it? Ah... those champagne socialist circles. "All animals ..." and all that!)

... but, those of us who are not aligned ...
No, only aligned to what the Guardian allows you to think?

The way the socialists are going, this year could be that 'Berlin Wall coming down' style death-knell for British socialism, where the people break free from those artificial 'class related' restraints that traditional blind loyalty to 'voting for Labour' has kept them enclosed into and they break free to join the delights of free-thinking political involvement. The 'mind control' by the Guardian cold be about to fail. Although, some die-hards will stay trapped in their own minds.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 15:43
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Old 3rd May 2017, 15:52
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The bloody difficult woman

Theresa May accuses EU of trying to affect UK election - BBC News

being bloody difficult and good on her for it.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 16:02
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there hasn't really been a lot to comment on.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 16:04
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Seldom, I agree, The EU game plan is quite blatant from where I stand
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Old 3rd May 2017, 16:13
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[quote=Trossie;9759965]On the scale of competence, like them or loathe them, any rational person would have to agree that they are both way, way above Diane Abbott.

Oddly enough, being rational, I loathe them....however, since you kindly mentioned scales, by way of comparison, on one scale she's ahead of both of them, the one of competency that is, on another, the scale relating to my underlined in a previous post, they are both well ahead of her.....even the average cat would be hard pushed to beat them when it comes to being mercenary.

(This wouldn't perhaps be that socialist politician who sent her son to a private school, would it? Ah... those champagne socialist circles. "All animals ..." and all that!)

Quite possibly, you see, you don't have to exist on bread and dripping, live under a tarpaulin or wear clothes with six previous owners, sorry to shatter your delusions here, to have a social conscience or be a socialist.

No, only aligned to what the Guardian allows you to think?

Actually, more aligned to what the decidedly skewed demographic on JB would much prefer me, and others, who are not part of the BOF S-AT's collective, to think.

The way the socialists are going, this year could be that 'Berlin Wall coming down' style death-knell for British socialism, where the people break free from those artificial 'class related' restraints that traditional blind loyalty to 'voting for Labour' has kept them enclosed into and they break free to join the delights of free-thinking political involvement. The 'mind control' by the Guardian cold be about to fail. Although, some die-hards will stay trapped in their own minds.[/quote]

Now, at this point, credit where credit is due in one respect at least. That's the first time I've ever heard, or read, the accusation the Guardian is practicing mind control ! . Hopefully, this surreal perception was induced as a side effect of prescription medicine ?

Thereafter, well, if you do actually believe the UK is a classless society, try gaining entry to some of the more prestigious and elitist events and venues, living in those quaint gated communities or pitching up at some well known gentleman's clubs and saying you want to be a member....albeit the denizens are usually complete members anyway.
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Old 3rd May 2017, 16:27
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Seldom, I agree, The EU game plan is quite blatant from where I stand
Why would/should the EU give UK a deal that is better than the deal any of the 27 gets? Of course TM is talking tough- there's an election on the way- but does anyone think we're going to come out with a free trade, no free movement deal. For Free? She'll get the alimony down to 50 billon. Then she'll say that was a victory- 'we showed 'Jonny Foreigner'- and where will we be then? Same as everywhere NOT in the EU. Will we get a better deal than them?

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Old 3rd May 2017, 16:47
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CG,

If you reverse engineer the current viewpoint you have to ask yourself the question as to why the EU is doing it's level best to make things as difficult as possible? Why all the water muddying and the now daft notion that we are going to have to pay 100 billion euros as a divorce bill?

If the EU is such a wonderful place, such a success story, such a land of milk, honey and enlightenment then surely us leaving is not going to be a problem. Surely is just a case of settle your bar bill, a quick shake of hands and a bon voyage to one and all.

The fact that the EU is doing it's absolute damnedest to make things as difficult as it possibly can and to be clearly trying to influence the election outcome with these actions surely leads you to question just how well the EU machine is actually working.

IMHO they are absolutely sh1tting themselves about our departure because of the loss of our input each year. Add to that once we have done away with freedom of movement where are all the new EU economic migrants going to flood to, Germany and France must be loving that idea.

It's even more ironic that in the run up to June 23rd we were constantly being told by Remainers that our contribution each year was around the 8 billion mark yet no Remainers are currently prepared to stand up and question this ridiculous 100 billion figure, we have to pay almost 12 years membership fee's just to leave, WTF is that all about?
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