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Old 10th Jan 2017, 13:20
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Didn't someone repeatedly say that she would quite definitely be gone by December?

Who was that again?
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 13:51
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Been lots of unsubstantiated 'opinion' on here but the only consistent posture has been Mrs May and the insistence that she will invoke Article 50 by the end of March and start the process of removing us from the shackles of the EU.
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 15:27
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I agree with Gertrude. May's only footnote in history will be that she happened to be PM at the time of Brexit.
Round here we call it a hospital pass.
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 16:13
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The smart Tory voter in the up and coming Copeland by election will be lending their support to Labour. Should Corbyn lose this will give the lie to his claims that he is in any way capable of holding things together.

In many ways it's an interesting seat that could easily become a three way marginal. My guess is that if an opposition party loses a seat two years into a parliament it's a harbinger of doom for it's leader.
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 23:16
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Jeremy Boob seems to have had quite a bashing in some media and others (e.g. Guardian and Mirror) seem to have sidelined his relaunch and whatever cap he might want to wear (or want the incomes of others to wear!). The Gruinard even says "However clumsy his manner ..." in a headline, not quite a ringing endorsement of someone that you think that you can rely on in high places!

(What are some of the words? " ... knows not where he's going to".)
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 23:54
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Jezza please keep these hits coming

Jeremy Corbyn: I've not changed mind on immigration - BBC News

the man is, thankfully all over the place and long may that continue.
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Old 11th Jan 2017, 15:19
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Originally Posted by Gertrude the Wombat View Post
I foresee an increase, in the next few days, of people tweeting pictures of their LibDem welcome packs with a Labour membership card cut in half (there's been a steady trickle of these for some time).
The problem is that the LibDems seem to want to have an open door immigration policy too. I would suggest that is a vote loser.
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Old 11th Jan 2017, 19:43
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The LibDems can't get enough people in the UK to vote for them so they will have to import them.
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Old 11th Jan 2017, 20:32
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Tweet from my favourite Labour party member (who hasn't (yet) left them and joined us):
But there'll be three more cockups tomorrow. You know how this works. When Jeremy's on a roll, it's Laurel and Hardy on ice.
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Old 11th Jan 2017, 21:59
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The EU has more to lose from hard Brexit than the UK, Mark Carney says
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Old 12th Jan 2017, 08:02
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So many of the left-wing parties are banging on about how 'essential' it is to remain in the EU's 'single market'. The 'market' is fundamental to capitalism and the EU's 'single market' must be the biggest capitalist win in the otherwise socialist concept that the EU is. So why, oh why, are all the lefties banging on so much to insist on retaining a position within such a capitalist entity?

Now when we talk about 'access' to the EU's single market, the only countries that I can think of that don't have easy access to it must be North Korea and Zimbabwe. I'm sure that one or two others could be added to this list. So access fro a country like Britain should be no problem at all.
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Old 12th Jan 2017, 09:52
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The best part about lefties and social justice warriors discussing the evils of capitalism and lecturing us on how we should change our ways is that they do it on Twitter or Facebook, from an iPhone inside of a Starbucks.

The left have never really practiced what they preached.
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Old 12th Jan 2017, 13:02
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Originally Posted by HeartyMeatballs View Post
The best part about lefties and social justice warriors discussing the evils of capitalism and lecturing us on how we should change our ways is that they do it on Twitter or Facebook, from an iPhone inside of a Starbucks.

The left have never really practiced what they preached.
The even funnier part which has become crystal clear to me since June 23rd is that they preach their leftie mantras with the utmost disdain for anyone who does not share their ideology but when they are asked to actually put their own hands in their own pockets they show their true champagne socialist values and vote Remain.
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Old 12th Jan 2017, 14:09
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That could well be that we don't see any great advantage in one or the other and therefore would choose the most cost effective option.
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Old 12th Jan 2017, 14:47
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The champagne socialists I know, including a couple of family members all voted Remain out of fear of a dip in their pocket contents, nothing to do what so ever about whats best for the country just simply their own wealth.
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Old 12th Jan 2017, 14:53
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For the purposes of this thread, does "UK" include Northern Ireland? If so, the events of the last week are worth mentioning too. The Guardian has a summary here, but the short version is that the "power-sharing" agreement appears to be up in the air over the refusal of First Minister Arlene Foster to resign, which led Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness to resign his post on Tuesday.

The immediate reason for the kerfuffle is a scheme called the Renewable Heat Incentive (RHI), a.k.a. "cash for ash", which subsidised farmers and others who burned recycled wood chips instead of fossil fuels. The subsidies far exceeded the cost of the fuel: for spending 1, a farmer could make 1.60. There's a story of a farmer who rented an empty shed, put wood chip heating in, and now expects a 1 million payout. Toasty.

The scheme was started by the Department of Enterprise, Trade and Investment in 2012, when Ms. Foster was in charge there. So you might think that the situation is heated-and-dried, but this is Northern Ireland Politics we're talking about here. Foster is claiming misogyny is behind the calls to resign, while the Republicans are using this for sectarian political ends. McGuinness' resignation letter, shown here, is two dense pages of complaints about the DUP going back 10 years. So ... once more around the hamster wheel.
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Old 12th Jan 2017, 16:56
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The champagne socialists I know, including a couple of family members all voted Remain out of fear of a dip in their pocket contents, nothing to do what so ever about whats best for the country just simply their own wealth.
The champagne socialists I know weren't all that interested in the EU referendum, except insofar as it might have implications for Corbyn's leadership (Labour party internal politics is, after all, the only real politics that actually matters).
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Old 13th Jan 2017, 05:42
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Ah, this would be an example of the new "caring" Tory party would it ?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...port-secretary

Still, it's nice to see a Transport Minister with such a complete understanding of his Dept.
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Old 13th Jan 2017, 09:20
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Rather baffling as to why Grayling stays in ministerial employment when even his party colleagues don't seem to think much of his efforts. His successor as Justice Secretary Michael Gove (who he?) spent most of his time reverting his policies!
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Old 13th Jan 2017, 09:24
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nothing to do what so ever about whats best for the country just simply their own wealth.
Whilst Tories, on the other hand, put the needs of the country before themselves every time?
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