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Old 1st May 2010, 14:53
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One of the reasons for the strange split of vote/seats for the LD's is that where they do win the cause of the victory is often "borrowed" Labour votes.

Labour voters see the LD candidate within a couple of thousand of the Tory and take an opportunity to prevent a Tory win.In areas where the LD's come a distant third there is no tactical vote to speak of.

Of course under a PR system all of the Labour tactical vote would return whence it came,this being counterbalanced by those who say "I would vote LD but they havn't got a chance" Nobody really knows what the outcome would be.
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Old 1st May 2010, 15:09
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There seems to be rather a run of unfortunate happenings for Labour, in recent days. The 'bigot' scenario must have been humiliating enough, but the past week has also seen the Labour candidate for Gravesham, Kent, arrested on suspicion of drink-driving, after colliding with a stationary roundabout. Unlikely to help in the party's uphill battle to unseat the existing Tory MP, who bucked the trend at the last election to win this highly marginal constituency. Oh dear, Gordon, are the gods being unkind?
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Old 1st May 2010, 15:14
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That is highly unfair of you. When I'm drunk, the roundabouts move all over the shop.

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Old 1st May 2010, 15:41
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Abuse of proxy votes

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Old 1st May 2010, 15:59
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Following a discussion on BBC Radio Five last night, it appears that the so-called illegal-immigrant amnesty already exists, albeit in a slightly different form.

Apparently, anyone who manages to survive in the UK (maybe just England?) for fourteen years without having actively evaded the authorities (whatever that may mean) and hasn't been guilty of an 'offence' (maybe just criminal, I don't know) can apply to be legitimised. Each case is considered on a case-by-case basis (rather than as of right), but, it seems that there is already a mechanism similar to that proposed by the LibDems (though they are suggesting ten years instead of fourteen).

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Old 1st May 2010, 16:05
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I have just watched footage of a heckler being manhandled out of a public meeting where Brown was giving one of his Tractor statistics/Tories will eat your babies rants. If someone is being disruptive, and I do not count heckling as such, then it should be for the police to intervene, not Browns thugs. To me this looked like common assault, remember the pensioner who was bundled out of a Labour conference for daring to speak up against Saint Tony?
Brown spouted that there would be an opportunity to ask questions after his speech, but does anyone believe that he would be accepting them from any other than carefully placed and briefed activists?
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Old 1st May 2010, 16:32
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Despite Labour clearly having both a bad campaign and a less than charasmatic leader the latest poll for the Sunday Telegraph shows Tory support at 36% and the other two parties in the high 20's.The projected seat outcome of these figures puts the Tories just ahead of Labour.Dave desperately needs that other 4% but it looks like Labour are now down to their core vote.

Tory hopes now rest on taking that 4% from Clegg.The problem with that however is that almost all the LD uplift since the start of the campaign has been a result of Labour voters defecting to them.So now Dave needs them to move over to him.Ex Labour voters are,I suggest,very unlikely to do that.
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Old 1st May 2010, 16:45
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Watching the election is a little like watching a man play Russian roulette with three shells in the cylinder. The odds are that one shell will come out in top but one of the slugs is a dud and the other two are going to blow your head off.
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Old 1st May 2010, 17:12
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Poor Gordo, nobodies even going to want him on the lecture circuit.
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Old 1st May 2010, 17:33
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There is a precedent for that, some old man being chucked out of the Party Conference a couple of years ago.

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Old 1st May 2010, 18:01
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Never underestimate the electorate actually thinking in the polling booth as they prepare to put their cross on the voting slip.

I've put 20 on Cameron getting a 22-40 seat majority, at 7/2.
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Old 1st May 2010, 18:12
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A figure of 4 million has been put on the number of voters who will only decide who to vote for once they are in the booth . . .
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Old 1st May 2010, 18:28
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Japan - population density 337 per sq km

England - population density 383 per sq km

England's population density is more than treble the European average of 117 people per sq km.

England is also one of the most densely populated countries in the world.
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Old 1st May 2010, 18:34
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Why just England G-CPTN? UK figure is 254 per sq km.
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Old 1st May 2010, 18:54
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Farage at 7/2 to unseat that slimeball Bercow in Buckingham is my bet this election. Lib Dems support will not hold up at the ballot box. Should be an interesting election.

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Old 1st May 2010, 18:59
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Why just England G-CPTN? UK figure is 254 per sq km.
254 per sq km puts the UK as the 51st most densely populated country..
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Old 1st May 2010, 19:11
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Originally Posted by G-AWZK
Why just England G-CPTN?
Scotland and Wales (and, to a lesser extent, Northern Ireland) have their own governments.

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Old 1st May 2010, 19:16
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Scotland and Wales (and, to a lesser extent, Northern Ireland) have their own governments.
This, however, is a UK election.

Population density of Glasgow is 3,298/km2.
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Old 1st May 2010, 19:44
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Have decided not to vote.

The various parties simply have not told the public what they will do to get the country out of the mess it is in. They all seem to have policies that p1iss about at the margins without saying what they will do to tackle the really big issues.

What are we talking about:

1. Approx 1 in 4 of all employees in the UK work for the government. Put quite simply this is madness. We cannot afford it.

2. 5 million approx are on some form of welfare, dole, disability allowance. Cannot go on.

It don't need a rocket scientist to see this so why has 'none of the above' seen a way to be honest about how they are going to tackle this?
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Old 1st May 2010, 20:03
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Because they are vying for their own employment . . .
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