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Old 21st Jan 2010, 11:59
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How much do you remember about these....

British Midland DC4 Stockport ....43 years ago

Dan Air Comet Barcelona ..........40 years ago

Dan Air Tenerife 727 Tenerife.....30 years ago

PanAm/KLM Los Rodeos.............33 years ago

Air India 747 Irish Sea...............25 years ago

British Airtours 737 fire..............25 years ago

Lockerbie 747 .........................22 years ago

BMA 737 Kegworth...................21 years ago

BA 1-11 Windshield Oxfordshire...20 years ago

Just been going through my press-cuttings/scrap-books... totally stunned to realise that I remember every one in great detail. How about you?

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Old 21st Jan 2010, 12:05
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What? - no Stratocruisers? (Prestwick 1954)


Elizabethans? Munich 1958 (Manchester United Busby Babes).

Viscounts? Wythenshawe (Manchester) 1957.

Britannias? Ljubljana 1966 (I knew one of the hosties).

(Not even a DC3?) Gwynant Lake, Snowdonia, 1952.

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Old 21st Jan 2010, 12:10
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I still have strong memories of the the ones that occurred in the first few years i worked at LHR - the BOAC 707 which returned in flames, the Ambassador accident and the Staines Trident. But most of all the Nigeria Airways VC10 - I had helped to check-in the flight and one of my check-in colleagues lost her fiancé.
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Old 21st Jan 2010, 12:27
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I remember all but the first on the list but the one that haunts me the most was the Invicta Viscount crash at Basel ASN Aircraft accident Vickers 952 Vanguard G-AXOP Basel/Mulhouse Airport (BSL) as I was directly involved. Invicta were based at Manston and the tower was the point of call for relatives and journalists looking for info. Invicta had taken their phone off the hook and left the RAF to field all enquiries. Felt so helpless when there was nothing we could do or say.
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Old 21st Jan 2010, 12:46
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I remember that one as a lot of the pax were from Weston-Super-Mare/ Bristol area, some sort of club outing charter I think.

The gym at RAF Locking, (a few miles outside WSM), where I was on a course, was used as a mortuary with sawhorse type trestles set uo to put the coffins on. When it reopened it took a few weeks to get rid of the sickly smell (formaldehyde?) so cross-country running, and other outdoor sport came to the fore for a while.
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Old 21st Jan 2010, 12:49
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What is that smell?
I can still recall the odour that permeated the room where my Grandfather was laid out after his death (in 1951) . . .
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I remember Los Rodeos, Lockerbie and Kegworth. As I was in Australia for all of these, those are the only ones which were big enough for international attention. I have studied all of them, as part of my profession.
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Old 21st Jan 2010, 13:06
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Britannias? Ljubljana 1966 (I knew one of the hosties).
I was doing my PPL at Luton at the time. I think most of us knew at least one of the crew.

I saw the smoke from the BOAC 707 at EGLL from the canteen at LATCC. Initially there was a lot of joking about BOAC having taxied one through the hangar doors again.

On duty at Sopley on Sector 6 in 1969 when the Air Lingus Viscount went into the Irish Sea. Similarly with the BEA one that crashed at Dendermonde in Belgium, although fortunately on the Upper Sector.One Viscount that was very lucky was the one operated by Luxair which skidded off an icy taxiway and the tail broke off. Investigation revealed that the ex-PIA aircraft's tail structure would probably have come off sooner rather than later due corrosion from the rear toilets. Apparently this was one of the reasons for introducing "toilet sims" in the middle and far east.

A colleague lost his sister in the KLM/PAA crash at Tenerife, another colleague's father was one of the first on the scene at the Stockport DC4 crash.

Quite a few friends and acquaintances lost in light aircraft or military crashes over the years, mainly at Air Displays

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Old 21st Jan 2010, 13:08
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The Britannia crash in Lubljana sticks out in my memory.
I actually painted the registration on the tailfin, G-ANBB.
I left Brits and went to ACE Frighteners just prior to the
crash, but still remember seeing the incident on the telly,
and seeing my handiwork on what remained of the fin.
That was a tragic, silly, accident.
One Hostie survived I think?
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Old 21st Jan 2010, 13:38
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Vague memories of the DC-4, pix of wreckage balanced on some roofs. Is that the one?

Don't remember either of the Dans but I remember the rest for various reasons.
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Old 21st Jan 2010, 13:42
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Didn't the DC 4 crash in Stockport?
I seem to recall that he put it down onto a bit of spare ground?
Mind plays funny tricks nowadays.
The Dan crash in TFS was a CFIT into Mt Tiede IIRC?
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Old 21st Jan 2010, 13:49
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Yeh, looks like me memory is wrong, just viewed some pix, its hard to tell but its not on roofs, must be thinking of another one.
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Old 21st Jan 2010, 14:00
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Didn't Sir Harry Broadhurst(?) crash a Vulcan at Heathrow?
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Does anybody remember SAA ZS-EUW near Windhoek in 1968?
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Old 21st Jan 2010, 14:20
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Bit of a joint effort that one Norm, he was in the Co's seat but I think the Captain was actually flying it. Real Co was down the back with the Crew Chief, sat on the floor.
Real Co's mates and family were mega pissed off as the RAF PR Machine continued the pretence that he was a Nav, thus preserving the storyline that Broadhurst was doing all the Round-The-World biz.

What was the SAA nasty at Windhoek?
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One Hostie survived I think?
Indeed . . .


She was badly burnt.
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What was the SAA nasty at Windhoek?
SAA ZS-EUW was a brand new SAA 707 en route from Jhb via Windhoek to London.

Plane took off from Windhoek at night into a black bowl. At around 700 feet, it levelled off and then descended and impacted the terrain about 5 km from the take off point. Killing 123 passengers and crew.

The board of enquiry debated whether the wrong flap setting had been selected due to reversion by the crew to the settings for an earlier model of the 707 . It was found that the Captain may have been constrained by inappropriate strength spectacles as well as the fact that the flying crew appeared to have become spatially disorientated (the aircraft descended without the crew appearing to react).
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Old 21st Jan 2010, 15:00
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I remember the Dan Air HS748 going into the ocean at Sumburgh in 1979. My father had been on the same flight a couple of days previously. 17 lost.
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Old 21st Jan 2010, 15:10
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The BA 1-11 was ex BHX as I recall?
Someone changed the windscreen, but refitted shorter bolts?
F/O landed it OK, but the Captain was sucked out of the hole
and finished up naked, with a steward hanging onto his legs.
Bet that was fun for him? He survived.
And went back to work. Good for him!!!

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Old 21st Jan 2010, 15:32
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After the Stockport crash there was a superb programme on TV which showed the AAIB (or whatever it was called in those days) investigating the cause. They flew a sister aeroplane in identical conditions and engines failed, due to fuel starvation, one after the other until the pilot lost control. It made me want to be an accident investigator at the time.
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