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Old 17th Jan 2010, 02:57
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Prince slays 'em in Auklalo'afa

He forgot the sack of mussells and the kava?
All in Church anyway.

Prince William fails to pull NZ crowd - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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Old 17th Jan 2010, 03:20
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Only about a dozen people turned up this morning to see Prince William fly into Auckland.

The small crowd displeased one Australian television crew so much, it decided to make up its own signs and hand them out.

A reporter from Channel Nine's Today show was asked by her bosses to find some fans holding signs.

When she couldn't, the reporter says she was told by the studio in Sydney to "make some up herself".

The Channel Nine reporter wrote signs in pen saying "I love William" and gave them to a small group of women.

The reporter then did a live cross in front of the signs but did not mention they were her own creation.
this is the same 'professional' media who have just 'beat up' a simple diversion to Brisbane by UA.

With crap like this, how will the poor fellow ever get the message that he and his family, for the vast majority of Australians (and, I suspect, Kiwis), are simply irrelevant?
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Old 17th Jan 2010, 03:39
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Well, the last time they voted that "Vast Majority' you mention was less than 50%!
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Old 17th Jan 2010, 06:13
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Time was when the Today Show had real journos on the ground who could sniff a story and turn 12 kiwis waiting for a Royal into a snub and diplomatic incident with no reference to Head Office.

Woeful stuff.

All the modern journos seem to report on are the activities of their rivals.
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parabellum, I was visiting the UK "the last time they voted" on this issue and was appalled at the way both the British newspapers and the Beeb so totally misread the result. ("They still love us and want us!" was the tenor of one London rag's headline.)

The referendum failed because the then PM, John Howard, (an out and out Royalist), added some riders to a 'yes' vote that he knew would not get up. (The main one being that the President would be selected by a 2/3rds majority of Parliamentarians rather than by popular vote, a [in my opinion] far more sensible way of electing what would be a titular and ceremonial Head of State than a popular election, where the candidates become politicians - or the richest man wins.) However, the Australian meedja (translation: Rupert Murcoch) stoked up quite a bit of outrage about 'the elites' electing the HoS and the hoi polloi followed Rupert's lead.

The result, as Howard planned it, was predictable - people voted 'no', not to the republic, but to the election of the HoS by 2/3rds of parliamentarians.

Believe me, mate, 90% of Australians under the age of 60 couldn't give a rotund rodent's rectum for Betty and her brood and are totally bemused at the rather strange position they play in our system of government.

Among the older ones and those younger ladies who buy weekly mimmen's magazines, I have to admit, the proportion who still love Betty and William is probably somewhat higher.

I realise that this comment may well be met with as much outrage from some as the American VP Joe Biden's comment that Barrack Obama was more likely to be elected because he was a light-skinned black who didn't speak with the negro (am I allowed to say that?) dialect. However, it's as true as Joe Biden's comment was, as hard as that may be to swallow by some.
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Old 17th Jan 2010, 06:37
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Wiley, I'll take issue with you, gently.

I think most Australians quite like the British Royals, but think that they are irrelevant to the country's future.

I agree with your comment about Howard.
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Live breakfast shows are closer to being entertainment genre than news genre.

I actually saw the report in question and wondered where the lady got hold of a sheet of A4 (as I believe she just disembarked) and was surprised at the poor level of quality of the artwork from a royalist!

Now we know!




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Old 17th Jan 2010, 07:00
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Thanks for the 'gently' Wod. (I suspect not all respondents will be so kind.)

I think we agree with each other almost completely. I didn't mean to infer that I (or many, if any) Australians disliked the Royals, They simply think they're irrelevant to Australia. I suspect many have something approaching admiration to the Queen, but that doesn't carry over for nearly as many to having her as our HoS.

Some, perhaps many, would prefer not to offend her by making the change while she's still on the throne, but I suspect quite a few of those will not feel the same way about ruffling the feathers of King Chas or King Bill.
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Old 17th Jan 2010, 09:19
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Hi Wiley, Coincidence! I was staying with friends in Lilydale on the day of the referendum, (not living in Oz then). It was said at the time and I agreed that it was the framing of the question that did it, and why not? J. Howard has never hidden his colours, he was in the box seat.

At the time I also agreed that Australia only has to wait ten to fifteen years and it won't matter much how the question is framed, there will be ten to fifteen years of 'oldies' who will have passed on but probably voted to stay with the Monarchy, to be replaced by ten to fifteen years worth of youngsters, too young to vote the last time but might now be hard pressed to find the UK on a map! You can now add to that several hundreds, if not thousands, of so called asylum seekers.

I didn't see it properly addressed the last time, may have missed it as I was living in Singapore, but what bothers me a lot is what is it all going to cost and what will be the tangible benefits to the likes of me, the Australian Tax Payer? Every badge carrying the Royal cipher/coat of arms will have to change, massive cost of replacement for the military alone, then there are all the constitutional documents that will have to be re-written, state and federal.

The transitional cost will be quite huge on it's own. Now the cost of maintaining a Head of State and his/her entourage, will be many, many more times than maintaining the current GG but what is the tangible benefit to the taxpayer?

Times are not easy at the moment and the suggestion of added personal taxes for carbon emission schemes and ETS doesn't help, now add to that the cost of a transition to and the maintaining of a republic and all for what?

Politicians and lawyers will make a fistful, as will sign writers and printers etc. but the average Australian won't feel any different emotionally and will be financially worse off, at the same time a bunch of bottom feeding politicians, lawyers and senior civil servants will all be jumping on the republican gravy train and feathering their nests as they become part of the republican entourage, anyone got the figures for establishing and maintaining the entourage?

Before the next referendum I, as a taxpayer, want to see all these questions properly addressed in the public forum, with accurate budget numbers so that when people are asked to vote they do know exactly what they are voting for and what it will cost them personally as well as benefit them, not like the last time when the whole thing was seen as a good excuse for a day off and BBQ and piss up.

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I wonder what happened to "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". I'd go along with the concept of getting out of the constitutional monarchy if the miscegenated Senate system was fixed first.

I'll try to stay on topic because this is heading for the hamster wheel. A discredited television station (remember the Willesee hostage drama?) attempts to inject some oomph into a story which isn't there. Just why would people throng to capture a glimpse of the Prince? He seems to be an articulate and engaging young man who's served his country and will spend his entire life under intense scrutiny. He also has less hair than I, but I'd probably swap my hair for the Astons and the palaces.

Were it that we held our politicians to the same degree of accountability.

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Old 17th Jan 2010, 10:06
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Well someone told me he arrives in Darwhine next stop.
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Old 17th Jan 2010, 10:08
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No Knighthood for you Tinny!
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Old 17th Jan 2010, 10:41
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Wouldn't it be nice if his return ticket was permanantly cancelled.
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Old 17th Jan 2010, 11:20
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First of all what you Aussies do about becoming a republic is your business and bugger all to do with me.
The last time the Queen visited Adelaide Mrs 1DC and i just happened to be there, the number of people who turned out to see her was very impressive to me and many more than would have turned out where i live in the UK.The age profile was young and old although it did seem that the older people, particularly the ladies had turned out in their Sunday best..
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Old 17th Jan 2010, 12:19
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I reckon most people here look up to the Queen quite a bit.

Mind you if it looks like Charles is about to take over, we'll probably have voted to become a republic by the end of the week
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Old 17th Jan 2010, 13:08
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I doubt that there are many people here who were sentient when KG VI held the throne, and we'd really whittle things down to get the Edward VIII.

The point that you make is correct. Due to his mother's longevity, (and long might she reign), we have here someone approaching retirement age who's passed the interview but is waiting for his position.

It is disquieting that the PoW expresses opinions about things which are fraught with political agenda. I mean, you don't want to be lectured about MMGW from someone with an Aston-Martin, do you?

The only reasonable grounds to keep the constitutional monarchy are that they are under severe scrutiny, that they have not lobbied for their jobs, and that they can make an impartial decision in the event of an emergency. They are immune to bribery and corruption - all their laundry is on public display.

The links between the Mother Country and Australia have become weaker. I expect that the Lebanese look at Britain in the same way the black people here see Australia - as a foreign country.

One thing which sexually excites me is when socialists refer the the Queen as being German. "Good thing she's not half-black, though, eh?" is my response. I would be interested to learn why being part-German might be some form of disgrace.

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I think there is as little interest in Australian politics in the UK as there is in the Royal Family in Australia. The point is, does this matter any more? Sport is a different matter, all but the keenest cricket fans couldn't give a fig for the Test series result in South Africa (draw seems about right), what matters is the all too rare occasions when we get to stuff the Aussies on the cricket pitch (or the rugby field). If Australia became a republic tomorrow I doubt if many of us in the UK would even notice - but retaining the ashes on the next Australian tour - now that's a different matter!

BTW didn't Charles attend Geelong Grammar for a bit? Wonder if he'd get invited to the Old Boys' p**s - up if Oz became a republic.
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Old 17th Jan 2010, 16:12
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Why all the discussion about the status of the Royal Family in Australia when the young heir is visiting New Zealand?

Are the two territories still joined at the hip? ie is NZ a dependency of Australia?
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is NZ a dependency of Australia?
Wash yer bl00dy mouth out.
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Old 17th Jan 2010, 17:50
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That was my point.


I was merely suggesting that the Ozzies are premature in sticking their noses in to an NZ event (and yes, I know that the Prince will go on to visit HM Penal Colony . . . )
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