Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Social > Jet Blast
Reload this Page >

Car for the parents: Advice from the panel needed

Jet Blast Topics that don't fit the other forums. Rules of Engagement apply.

Car for the parents: Advice from the panel needed

Old 15th Jan 2010, 13:09
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: There and here
Posts: 1,935
Car for the parents: Advice from the panel needed

One's elderly parents are wanting to replace their, wait for it, Ford Fiesta 1.3 zetec from the year 2000 Father is determined to stay with Ford and Fiesta through the belief that "it's British" , even though the offering of 2010 bears zero relation to the model of a decade before. As often is the case they have difficulties getting in and out of the car at times, especially so as it's a (to me) seemingly low riding car. They need a small-ish 4 door car that's high enough to get in and out of easily and that is economical/reliable/safe etc.

As i'm not too au fait with cars, would anyone here have any suggestions of alternatives, or praises for the Fiesta ? Also should they trade in their VGC, low mileage with the scrappage deals on offer OR sell it privately and buy new ? Any and all suggestions gratefully received, you just might help avert a typical father/son argument or two

Thanks



SHJ
SpringHeeledJack is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 13:13
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southeast U K
Posts: 291
Ford Focus 1.4 is a good bet.
Storminnorm is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 13:19
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chez Sprog
Posts: 493
Ford Focus was designed (believe it or not) with wrinklies in mind. It has easy access in & out and big easy to push buttons for arthritic fingers. It's a cheap Ford & will work alright.
Sprogget is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 13:23
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Out in the sticks in DE56
Age: 82
Posts: 552
The Fiesta review in the Clarksonisms thread is pretty fair - despite what you think of Clarkson. In general, there is a good family resemblance with the Focus, too, so that might be helpful.

I drove a hired Ceed (Kia Ceed | Kia Motors UK) on holiday this year; pleasant to drive - better than the wife's Fiesta and I was impressed for a 'cheap' car. Aged p's might also be impressed with the 7 year warranty.
jimtherev is online now  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 13:28
  #5 (permalink)  

Hmmmyeah
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Leopardess.
Posts: 652
The current Fiesta is a pretty decent little car. If your Dad likes the idea of one, there's no good reason to steer him away.

Honda Jazz is worth a look as a slightly higher roof alternative.

How to buy depends on the resale value of the current Fiesta and how much keener the dealers are to cut a good deal with an all cash buyer. Check Autotrader for the first, speak to the dealers about the latter.
SyllogismCheck is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 13:34
  #6 (permalink)  

Ich bin ein Prooner.
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Home of the Full Monty.
Posts: 506
Mrs.Zark bought a Vauxhall Meriva a while back, and to be honest it's a good little car. It is slightly higher than other small saloons, and so it is easy to get in and out of.
It is quite roomy inside, and the much-vaunted variable seating arrangement is handy for moving largish items here and there from time to time.
The only caveat is the engine. Mrs. Z insisted on a 1.4, I wanted her to get the 1.6 petrol or 1.7 (I think ) turbo diesel. The problem is that our locale is very hilly, and if you get baulked on a hill, you really have to rev its little nuts off to get going uphill again.
By contrast, No.1 Daughter has also bought a Meriva (It's all to do with transporting Grandkids about!) but the 1.6 petrol model, and it is vastly superior to the 1.4, in our circumstances.
See if you can get the oldies to try one.
As an aside, they have 4-wheel disc brakes, and the stopping power is incredible. I have even pondered if they may be "over-braked", if there is such a thing!
Apparently (according to a neighbour) the local Vauxhall dealer, who I think is pretty much nationwide) is doing very good deals on scrappage, etc.
Noah Zark. is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 13:37
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 81
I have to ask but why change it ?
HuntandFish is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 13:39
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: ex-Abu Dhabi now back in Carrot Cruncher Land
Posts: 75
How about an Aston Martin

It's British (sounding!)

You might get to inherit it one day
Smeagol is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 13:40
  #9 (permalink)  
Hippopotomonstrosesquipidelian title
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: is everything
Posts: 1,822
Since you already said they're looking for a 4-door, I won't belabour the point, but don't get a 2-door: the doors are larger, so they don't open as far in confined spaces, so aged parents find it harder to get out. I also got the garage to set the seats more sit-up-and-beggy, and adjust the foot pedals and steering to suit, then educate the parent to see how well this worked. Result: parent could get in and out way easier than previously. Once the dealer understood what was required, he was outstanding.
Bushfiva is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 13:48
  #10 (permalink)  
Resident insomniac
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: N54 58 34 W02 01 21
Age: 76
Posts: 1,859
My daughter has recently bought a Ford Fusion - which is a 'higher' version of the Fiesta - not quite an MPV, but, just as the Meriva is an altered version of the Corsa, so the Fusion is derived mechanically from the Fiesta, so elderly parentials would feels at home.

Fusion Overview

Daughter (who started her motoring with a Fiesta) is delighted with her purchase, which was prompted by the arrival of a baby and the need to find space for 'things' which the Subaru didn't provide.

Otherwise I'd recommend the Ford Focus - available with an engine which has a very low VED (road tax) and excellent economy. This will probably be my next car that I will expect to see me through my retirement years. Being me I will choose the estate version. Think of the Fusion as a Fiesta estate . . .
G-CPTN is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 13:54
  #11 (permalink)  

Avoid imitations
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Wandering the FIR and cyberspace often at highly unsociable times
Posts: 12,726
Been through a similar situation last year with my wife's 80 yr old, recently widowed mother. She had decided the old man's BMW 1 series was too much for her (two years old, 8k miles). We went all around town looking at all sorts of different makes of small car, beginning with Toyota as she has owned two Yaris's before. She liked none of them, including the Aygo (in fact she particularly disliked the Aygo). Same with the Fiesta, she no like!

However, she suddenly spotted a Fiat Panda 1.3 Multijet diesel demonstrator and after a short test drive, she fell in love with it (and so did I, to be honest!). This really is a great little car and very economical. She has been getting 57 mpg around her short trips, I get more - up to 74 mpg once you get it into fifth! All models are Gp 2 insurance and only 35 per year road tax.

The car has a high seating position and a raised gear lever. It has large, easy to see and operate switchery, including a very useful one to increase the amount of power steering assistance when parking. This is something that my MIL greatly appreciates, as she is not as strong in the shoulders as she used to be. Another useful design feature is the low rear boot sill; easier for getting the shopping in and out. Some new cars are very poor in this respect.

The more I think about this car, the more I'm tempted to trade in my beloved Beemer for one.
ShyTorque is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 13:55
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Abu Dhabi
Posts: 294
The new Fiesta is a fine car, but as far as I know its made in Spain and has absolutely diddly to do with the UK anymore.


Edit....hang on, just found out they stopped making Fords in the UK in 2002..
dubh12000 is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 13:55
  #13 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: There and here
Posts: 1,935
Thanks for all the replies so far chaps! I hadn't thought about the 2 door, doors being larger, but of course they would be!

Effectively, they drive an average of 15 miles a day. From home to the town near them to see friends over a cup of tea and cake, do some shopping and then home. Parking in smaller carparks where space (and therefore access) are at a minimum. A few longer drives to airports or the horse races from time to time and that's about it. No wonder their present car is low mileage

Has anyone had any experience of the VWs and their ba$tard offspring, Seat and Skoda ?



SHJ
SpringHeeledJack is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 14:03
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Abu Dhabi
Posts: 294
I drive an Octavia, best car I've every owned, but not suited to your oldies. I do get a Roomster courtesy car when I hand it in for a service....and that is a suprisingly nice drive! Ugly as hell, but a nice drive.
dubh12000 is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 14:03
  #15 (permalink)  
Resident insomniac
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: N54 58 34 W02 01 21
Age: 76
Posts: 1,859
Son-in-Law's family all have Skodas - and are delighted with them. 'Cheap' (costwise) VWs - almost identical in every respect. S-i-L has a 4x4 'sport' Octavia which has been useful during recent weeks with the snow up in Lanarkshire. The Octavia is Golf/Passat-sized.
G-CPTN is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 14:16
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: The Burrow, N53:48:02 W1:48:57, The Tin Tent - EGBS, EGBO
Posts: 2,298
I drive a Zafira which is great but will be a tad large for your parents. Have a look at the Vauxhall Agila which is the smallest of Vauxhall's higher seat cars, or, as someone has already suggested, the Vauxhall Meriva. If the new diesel version is available then I would go for that. I find the standard of comfort in a Vauxhall is usually better than in a comparable Ford, especially the seating.
DX Wombat is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 14:17
  #17 (permalink)  
PPRuNe Tea Lady
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: A pyramid far far away
Posts: 129
I'll add my tuppenceworth here for the Renault Modus.

I have a diesel version that is extremely cheap to run. It is easy for my disabled passenger to get in and out as its high with wider than average door. If you look at the 'Grand' version it has more boot space than the regular model and can accommodate a wheelchair / walking frame.
cleo is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 14:23
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: SW England
Age: 73
Posts: 3,820
Ford Fiesta 1.3 zetec from the year 2000
2000 eh? Hmm, might be interested. But then my 1997 one seems to be going pretty well so I may just hang on to it.
Tankertrashnav is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 14:41
  #19 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: There and here
Posts: 1,935
2000 eh? Hmm, might be interested. But then my 1997 one seems to be going pretty well so I may just hang on to it
And that's the thing, they don't use it enough to find fault with it, all things considered, but it's definitely an issue with getting in and out and perhaps my father wanting to update (his) steed. If you have four people in it, it gets pretty crowded. When i drive it my head is pressed against the ceiling even with the seat at it's lowest point And seeing the dials as to speed etc..... Maybe i wasn't the target customer for the old fiesta.

The Vauxhalls mentioned seem to be up their street needs wise, as is the Fiat. It's getting my father around the wall of preconceptions that is the chore, my mother is more open to a more practical (and feisty) car. Do parking sensors come in cars of such simplicity or is that reserved for the luxury models ?



SHJ
SpringHeeledJack is offline  
Old 15th Jan 2010, 14:55
  #20 (permalink)  
Resident insomniac
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: N54 58 34 W02 01 21
Age: 76
Posts: 1,859
I believe that parking sensors, if not fitted as standard within the spec. can be retrofitted by the dealers.

If your parents really are rooted to the Fiesta, take them to see a Fusion (even secondhand). Ford have a scheme which supplies 'guaranteed' ex-company vehicles (that have usually been lease-cars to exec's families).
G-CPTN is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.