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Old 12th Jan 2010, 13:53
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I've no idea if and where their ships are registered, but based on their record it must be in some banana republic
Close. Here is Watson's explanation from his website:

We were flagless and then the Mohawks at Kahnawake invited Captain Paul Watson to visit them to accept the flag of the Five Nation Iroquois Confederacy.

Unfortunately, most nations refuse to accept the registry. The Sea Shepherd ships were able to secure Dutch registry shortly thereafter.

But we regard our ships to be legally registered with the Dutch Registry and as honorary registered ships of the Mohawks.
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Old 13th Jan 2010, 13:04
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ENVIRONMENTALIST and 2007 Australian of the Year Tim Flannery has declared his support for the hugely unpopular Japanese whaling program.
As Australia prepares to monitor the whaling fleet in Antarctica amid rising diplomatic tensions with Japan, Professor Flannery says there is nothing unsustainable about its annual cull of up to 1000 whales - particularly the common minke whale.
"In terms of sustainability, you can't be sure that the Japanese whaling is entirely unsustainable," Professor Flannery told The Daily Telegraph. "It's hard to imagine that the whaling would lead to a new decline in population."

Flannery says whaling is OK | The Daily Telegraph


Well, there ya have it. Way back in 07 Australia's preeminent environmentalist Flim Flannery declares his support for whaling...







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Old 27th Jan 2010, 01:40
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Looks like we're going to find out if the Australian government supports terrorists....

The Sea Shepherd flagship Steve Irwin arrives in the west Australian port of Fremantle on Thursday ... Sea Shepherd heading to Freo for repairs






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Old 27th Jan 2010, 11:03
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OK, well here's how I see it.

The current state of affairs is a huge clusterfk.

SS are now doing more harm than good to their cause. They have successfully brought attention to it, but it makes a lot of Japanese feel that they are having a culture dictated to them by the west. Whether or not this is true doesn't make 1 iota of difference, it is how this whole thing is interpreted by the Japanese public, and its how I'd interpret it if a Japanese boat came over here and started sinking Australian fishing charter boats.

The Japanese public are the lynchpin. At this point they have been fed a lot of BS from their Gov. I saw a quote the other day about whales "It is important to cull the Minkes because they eat all the fish which makes it hard for the other whales to recover." Minkes (and blues and sei and pretty much every whale except the orca) do not eat fish, just krill.

In my view, the way then that the anti whaling movement needs to go now is to generate awareness. Get an Attenborough doco on whales on Japanese TV. Get "The Cove" in cinemas/TV as well. Get information out there on what really goes on down with the Nisshin Maru.

If the Japanese are to continue whaling, hey that's fine by me. But I would want an independent, non Japanese and non Japanese-owned IWC nation body to be doing a yearly calculation of the numbers of whales out there. Then in cooperation with the Japanese work out a sustainable take for that year, and have independant observers on board the whaling vessels to enforce it. Having seen the way their tuna fleet has operated with total disregard for quotas (and the whaling fleet too come to think of it) I would not trust the same group that will profit from taking more to be responsible for self enforcing rules. It would be like telling a dodgy air charter operator "Hey, have a look and work out how hard your employees can deal with working, then make up a set of duty limits on that. While you're at it, we'll exempt you from the requirement to pay minimum wage, but we'll trust you to do the right thing while we don't watch you "

Speaking of which, another great quote from the Tokyo fish markets about the potential marking as "endangered" for the Atlantic Bluefin Tuna:

"This could set a dangerous precedent. The list could grow to include the yellowfin and bigeye tuna, too," said Hisao Masuko of the Japan Tuna Fisheries Cooperative Association. "If nothing is done, we won't have any tuna at Tsukiji fish market."

Isn't that the intention?
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Old 2nd Apr 2010, 11:10
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... it makes a lot of Japanese feel that they are having a culture dictated to them by the west.
Well, things are coming to a head now -

ANTI-whaling captain Peter Bethune from the vessel Sea Shepherd is facing up to 15 years in a Japanese jail.
The New Zealander has been charged with trespassing aboard the Shonan Maru II after he scaled its deck from a jet ski on February 15.
He also faces charges that include injuring a crewman, carrying a weapon and vandalism after he boarded a whaling fleet ship in the Antarctic...

Sea Shepherd captain Peter Bethune faces a 15 year prison sentence | Perth Now
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Old 2nd Apr 2010, 14:46
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Sea Shepherd captain Peter Bethune faces a 15 year prison sentence | Perth Now
Should get another five years for stupidity !!

"I'm here to get my ship that I parked in front of you back" Duhhhhh
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Old 2nd Apr 2010, 20:51
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Stupid bugga, I read that the Japanese prosecuting department has a success rate of 98%.
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Old 2nd Apr 2010, 21:02
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Don't think he will enjoy himself as a convicted person in a Japanese jail, they are extremely harsh, I am told, every sentence is hard labour and the warders are some of the meanest alive. Might learn to speak Japanese and enjoy whale soup though.
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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 00:30
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....they are extremely harsh, I am told, every sentence is hard labour and the warders are some of the meanest alive.
Where did you hear that? The school playground?

Prisoners in Japan are treated very well, with a strong emphasis on rehabilitation, rather than punishment.

If he is convicted, and if he is sentenced to prison, he can also expect to be fed a well balanced diet, including whale meat. It's nutritious and cheap, as it is practically unsaleable here.
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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 01:18
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The poor buggah. It's probably about now that he will be realising that he has not one iota of public support that I can ascertain in New Zealand and will get no government support

The man's actions and stupidity are an embarassment to New Zealand and have probably done his cause extreme, if not terminal, damage.

The longer the sentence the better. It will keep him out of this country for a while.
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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 01:43
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How ironic, to have to eat whale meat to survive.

Anyone else thinking "hunger strike", here?
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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 02:06
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as it is practically unsaleable here
Reference ? ...






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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 02:32
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Reference ?
I think he lives there, works for me.
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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 03:07
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Wouldn't it be nice if Sea Shepherd coud go do something useful like patrol shipping lanes off Somalia?
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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 03:11
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Patrolling shipping lanes for pirates may indeed be useful, but personally, I'm glad there are organisations prepared to stand up to the inhumane ways (and specious reasons) whales are killed.

Their methods, in this particular case, leave a little to be desired.
A bit like ramming a skateboard into a bus.

It's a well known law of might, that if you're going to ram something, you better be heavier, and/or sharper, and strong enough to continue normal ops after the collision.

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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 03:13
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I think he lives there, works for me.
Must be true then, i've read it here...





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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 03:19
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It's a well known law of might, that if you're going to ram something, you better be heavier, and/or sharper, and strong enough to continue normal ops after the collision.
Captain Peter Behune making a clear and direct threat before sailing -

Before leaving, Ady Gil Captain Pete Behune said he was planning to take the fight right to the harpoon vessels.
"We will be on the fleet the whole time. Once we engage them, every day we'll be looking to mess them over,"



I took this reference from another previous thread. Seems the newspaper link reference has been changed - interesting. Oh, well, nothings ever lost on the internet....




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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 03:22
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Martyrdom. (Duh.)
Either that or he got carried away in the heat of the moment.

I still don't think the methods used were intelligent, either way.
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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 03:32
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Found it, at another newspaper link -

"Before leaving, Captain Pete Bethune said he was planning to take the fight right to the harpoon vessels.
"We will be on the fleet the whole time. Once we engage them, every day we'll be looking to mess them over," Bethune said"

Anti-whale ship Ady Gil rammed Today's News - The Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania



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Old 3rd Apr 2010, 03:40
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Martyrdom. (Duh.)
Yep, he's a dill who got caught out. hopefully not much happens to him.

The big question IMHO is what were the Sea Shepherd terrorists doing operating there in the first place. What were the Australian and NZ governments doing to stop a known terrorist group from operating out of Australian and NZ ports ?




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