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Old 13th Jan 2009, 08:23
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What would the BMI of someone like say Phil Vickery or Ugo Monye? I'm not at all convinced of the BMi as a measure.
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 08:28
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Public transport, yes that would get me thinner. I'd have to walk the remaining 38 miles to work.
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 09:47
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I follow the diet proposed by Harry secombe. Eat exactly what you like in whatever quantity you like. Just don't swallow it...................
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 10:41
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Surely that was Monica Lewinsky?
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 10:54
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I'm not sure if we are allowed to endorse a particular book but Paul McKenna has a book called, 'I Can Make You Thin' and by all accounts, it works.
His principles are:

Eat when you are hungry

Eat what you like

Eat consiously, Which means, eat slowly, chew thouroughly, put your k&f down between mouthfuls, taste the food and don't do anything else while you eat. i.e. no TV, reading the paper etc.

Stop eating the first time you feel full.....throw away or keep for tomorrow what is left on your plate. It all ends up in the same place eventually.

My wife has lost 4kg in four weeks using this method.

Whatever you do, don't go on a diet!
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 11:01
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Parapunter -

You are correct, BMI is a lot of tosh. It does not take into account body type.

When I was at the peak of my fitness, running decent paced marathions etc I was, according to BMI, obese.

This was despite having a body fat percentage of 14%. The fact that muscle weighs more than fat is not taken into consideration.

Skinfold measurements or more accurately Hydrostatic weighing are better methods.

Gingernut - bnt suggests buying a heart rate monitor, but there really is no need if you just want to lose weight. When you walk of jog, if you can talk fairly comfotable during the exercise, then you are working at a rate commensurate with burning fat and getting fitter.

Aim to eat about 2000 calories per day, split into 5 meals.
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 11:19
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V2-OMG has it in one. Follow his advice, add in a bit of exercise, upon waking if possible and before breakfast. Even a 15minute walk will fire up your metabolism for the rest of the day. Don't eat carbs after teatime. And try to graze on 5-6 small meals a day, 2-3 hours apart. Still with a total calorie intake for the day of about 500 less than you need. You don't want to do to much exercise or drop the calories to low, otherwise your body will think your starving and cling on to your fat, the only weight you'll lose will be muscle and water. And then once a week have a vindaloo and twelve pints.
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 14:34
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A 500 calory daily deficit will take off 1lb a week.I have had a bit of a weight problem since I was 17 and in some ways I think it is easier than it is for those who gain weight later in life when eating patterns are more established.Exercise is quite important I have a brisk 4 mile walk every night after eating and I think this probably equates to about 500 calories.I have found the best method is to wear a sturdy belt and keep to the same notch.
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 14:45
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Get some scales that only go up to 80kg.
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 14:54
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 14:56
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Ginge, everything but self-discipline can be found here: Weight Wise

Good luck, it's worth the effort.
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 15:49
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My one New Year resolution was to finally get my weight down.

I can't cope with calorie counting. Far too complicated and leads to far too much emphasis and thinking about 'food' than there needs to be for someone with a food 'problem'. It makes eating anything a guilt trip and for me ultimately leads to failure.

I am now trying an alternative (copyright eticket) diet that involves setting a p or & p daily food budget and sticking as close as I can to this. Much much easier than counting calories.

The one proviso is that the budget will need to be amended up or down based on experience at a particular price point.

I started on Jan 2nd and have so far lost 7lbs with no additional exercise and no obsessing about food. This is probably too much too quick and I will be revising the price point up.

I realise that it is not a 'clever/scientific' diet, but if it does work for me and the way I think, then getting rid of the weight has to be the most important thing. Time will tell.

(Plus the savings will go towards paying for the trip to see Mac.)
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 15:57
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Got to say I think current accepted 'government' nutritional advice is wrong and not evidence based but nobody seems to have the balls to change it.

The missus counts calories, I count carbs. I lose weight and keep it off and she is still a porker (though a very sexy one). Cut down on bread, pasta, spuds and sugar and you should lose weight. Nowt wrong with real ale as long as you have a plate of cheese at the same time. Read that in a book and sounds OK to me.

Evidence entirely anecdotal.

If that fails unprotected sex up the bum on Clapham Common will eventually get yer to the point you can see all yer ribs again.
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 16:19
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Several years ago I did the whole caloric counting thing.

Bought a "fancy" watch with hear rate monitor, counted all my calories exercising, intake, etc.

One day, did a short run in Central Park with a mate, went to the Boat House in the park for a beer afterward, kept the calorie counting thingy going, and continued drinking beers with my mate at my apartment.

According to the watch I burned more calories during the 4 hours drinking beer than I did during the 35min run! (And less calories than consumed by the beers).

Fantastic form of exercise I thought! Best $250 I spent on a watch!
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 16:28
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That's funny!


Mind you, 250 quid on a watch, you could have got one to show you the phases of the moon for that price


I know...who the flippin' 'ek wants to know the phases of the moon.
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 16:44
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Re the idea of eating according to a strict budget... I'm just back from Tesco, and while there are lots of bargains on junk food, there never seem to be any 2-for-1 deals on quality food. It's the same at e.g. Aldi, in my experience: calories are cheap, nutrition isn't.
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 17:01
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I have a brisk 4 mile walk every night after eating and I think this probably equates to about 500 calories.
Dream on - not much more than half that, according to this: Calories Burned During Exercise

Gingernut - good luck with your weight loss, however you do it.

I quickly abandoned walking in favour of cycling last year - I've lost nearly 2.5 stone / 15 kilos with 70-80 minutes of " Bicycling, 14-15.9mph, vigorous effort" on as daily a basis as I can. I was starting from almost 16 stone (I'm only 5'8 ), so running was out as I value my hips, knees and ankles!

Swimming is good too, but I found it way too boring. The great thing about actually getting out on your bike, is that when you are halfway around your route - you still gotta make it home! No shortcuts! You can't just roll off the exercise back if you are 8 miles from your house!

Don't try to lose weight too fast - either by restricting your food intake (selective or general) or exercise. No more than a couple of pounds a week is recommended.

The benefits of regular exercise are more than just weight loss - I feel and think better, I can pretty much eat what I like within reason (at least I'm not having to consciously say no to things I like, or count calories ). Food is meant to be enjoyed!

Maybe choose one fattening thing that you can totally do without - for me it was crisps of any kind. I just don't eat them any more, ever. So I can enjoy everything else!

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Old 13th Jan 2009, 17:33
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I found the best way to keep myself stable weight wise was bin all the crap. If everyone followed my regimen all bakeries, ice-cream makers, McD's, etc would be out of business. I only eat fruit, veg, rice, pasta, potatoes and meat sparingly. Run as much as you can. Drink as little beer as you manage to survive on - just at weekends. I've been 140 lbs for ever. And no it is not dull. Actually now I can't stand fried food, cakes, etc. Even chocolate doesn't bother me. Beer is different, very hard.

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Old 13th Jan 2009, 20:12
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V2-OMG has it in one. Follow his advice, add in a bit of exercise......
Actually, V2 is a "her," but that's okay. Seems to be a common misconception around here.

But exercise is important - was critical for me. It is not just the physical component. For me, it was more psychological. I did not think of myself as an overweight woman - I was now an athlete. I did not think of it as food anymore - it was fuel for a high-performance machine. The machine no longer craved the crap.

It was this mindset that took a bloated, lethargic body that could barely walk a block to competing in half marathons. I could jog for two hours straight without gasping for air. There is nothing like exercising and being able to breathe - the euphoria of a heart and lung performing like that well-tuned engine. It is addictive.

The downswing is that I eventually blew both achilles. (Tore the L and R achilles tendon). But they have healed, and am now easing myself back into walking/light running.

If you haven't exercised for a long time, start off by walking.
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Old 13th Jan 2009, 20:58
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Apparently the latest thing is to laugh a lot...
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