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Old 8th Jan 2009, 17:48
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Stansted protestors sentenced

Stansted protestors sentenced

The group of environmental protestors who succeeded in bringing London's Stansted Airport to a standstill towards the end of last year have been sentence today.

Twenty two people pleaded guilty to one charge of aggravated trespass at Harlow Magistrate's Court.

While the majority were given community service orders of 50 to 90 hours each, two were made to pay fines of over £100, one was given a referral order and one a conditional discharge.

Leo Murray, a spokesman for the group, who himself received a sentence of 70 hours community service for his part in the protests, said: "I do think the sentences were surprisingly harsh.

"But we don't take this lightly, we went into it with our eyes open and we are ready to take the consequences."

The protests, organised by members of the environmental group Plane Stupid, caused 57 Ryanair flights to be cancelled on the morning of December 8th.
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Old 8th Jan 2009, 17:59
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Good!

serves them right for disrupting the thousand's of not just business but also leisure passengers-who have probably been saving for a long time to go on holiday. The last thing they need, is to be delayed by irresponsible treehuggers.

Flame me if you like, but i'm just stating my opinion across.
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Old 8th Jan 2009, 18:01
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The sentences, in my opinion, are far too lenient and do not accord with common justice. The passengers inconvenienced by the action lost far more in monetary terms than the protestors were fined and the total cost to the air transport industry was obviously much much more.

I believe the punishment should at least go some way towards fitting the crime.
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If that old 1011 is still there, get some old RB211's strapped on and fill her with some old derv, I am sure they would run ok.

Then fire them up and line the offenders a few yards either behind or infront of the aircraft and go to TOGA.....

Now that would make them realise WHY they were bad people and stupid too!
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arseholes cost me half a days pay
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And then there is the issue of the promises made when folk were being sold on Stansted's suitability. What has happened bears no resemblance to the blissful descriptions of how it would be...and how it wouldn't be allowed to develop.

Tree hugger? Well, I waited most of my career to get a job there - family and friends being in Essex. In the 60s, my little Auster was often the only movement for hours, and I would commute by from Luton at night in the 70s in my Rallye, and not see another aircraft at all. Now the sky is solid aluminium - ask anyone that's trying to get a word in on the RT.

The change for the people underneath is total. An entire way of life has been ruined for thousands.

Much as I love aviation, I really don't think we have the right to do this, but as said above, that's just my opinion. But when we thought we could shake the Vauxhall workers out of their beds every night in the 70s, they soon let us know that it wasn't going to continue. I don't think any of them were prosecuted, and they were certainly carrying weapons.

As for a beautiful village being wiped off the face of the Earth for further expansion...I'll bite my tongue.
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Quote: “The sentences, in my opinion, are far too lenient and do not accord with common justice. The passengers inconvenienced by the action lost far more in monetary terms than the protestors were fined and the total cost to the air transport industry was obviously much much more.”

I agree, but don’t those who have been inconvenienced and suffered financial losses have any rights? Can't they still take action in the civil courts? Look at how O. J. Simpson was pursued through the civil courts. What is to stop those who suffered losses, both air operators and pax, from suing the culprits for damages? That should amount to tens of thousands of dollars. Having their homes, vehicles and bank accounts seized by bailiffs and wages garnisheed should serve as a deterrent for the future. The victims should also be able to apply to the courts for restraining orders, which would set up these convicts for more severe penalties if they should re-offend.
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Old 8th Jan 2009, 19:05
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The concept of suing these muppets is fine, the trouble is they don't have the money to pay any awards the courts might make, even when their assets have been seized
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I would have prefered to hang them! Iiots like this do't have the right to mess peoples lives. Mind you a good beheading could work! Especially the silly girl that was on the radio!
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Hang them from the tree they are hugging!!!
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Sorry such hard sentencing was awarded But I suppose the concept of the law being seen to be done had to be applied, all charges should have been drop. It is good to see minority group willing to risk freedom for a cause
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From URPN "I would have prefered to hang them! Iiots like this do't have the right to mess peoples lives. Mind you a good beheading could work! Especially the silly girl that was on the radio!"

I guess when you read this again, you may not be so proud of either the sentiment or the grammar!
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Old 8th Jan 2009, 20:38
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I wonder how "Green" their actions actually were when you consider the many tonnes of jet fuel consumed whilst aircraft held and subsequently diverted, with passengers being bussed to their final destination, and the aircraft subsequently being returned to Stansted empty!!!

I hear MOL is considering Civil action???
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Hang 'em all! And Engineer too
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As this case was heard in a Magistrates Court the guidelines for sentencing would be laid down in their "Ops Manual". That said my feelings are that they have got off pretty lightly.
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I'm still waiting to see if anyone has an answer to my point on the earlier thread on this subject: as in.....

We have a significant number of armed police and huge numbers of airport security staff at every airport, all of whom are allegedly there to spring into instant action and protect us, the long suffering travelling public from potential terrorist attack. How come these protestors had time to cause significant damage to the airport security fencing and how come none of these protestors were on the receiving end of at least a warning shot, or is all of the security apparatus merely an expensive ineffectual sham?

What would have happened, had any of these worthy protestors actually turned out to have been a terrorist who had infiltrated Plane Stupid as a cover for their activities? Would the rest still defend their actions?

I am sorry if I upset anyone's fine sensibilities, but I am afraid that I regard these people as inherently dangerous, occupying the same moral high ground and using virtually the same tactics as the Animal Liberation Front. Personally, I feel that they have been treated exceptionally leniently and the punishment that they should have received should have been commensurate with the costs of the disruption caused and the potential level of danger amd distress that their actions could have caused to thousands.
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Old 8th Jan 2009, 21:45
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Half of them don't even know what they are really campaigning for. They are just Hippies jumping on yet another Volkswagen band wagon!
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Old 8th Jan 2009, 21:57
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Wait until this thread hits JetBlast for it to really take off

Seriously though; the sentance tells me I can shut down an airport for a day for 100 Pounds? Hmmm...
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How long will it be before 'they' or another group carry out another such act?

They brought an international airport to a complete halt at vast expense to the country, achieved international notoriety and the sentences bear no resemblance to any of that. Shame.
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