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Old 5th Dec 2008, 11:57
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Herr Draper, as previously noted, indeed those 'genuises' were Englishman.

But they decided they'd had enough and became Americans.

Judging by the numbers of ex-pats here and the UK emigration figures, the tradition continues.
 
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Old 5th Dec 2008, 12:00
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yer, just dont understand it,one simply cannot get a decent cup of tea there.
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Old 5th Dec 2008, 12:01
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brickhistory quote.. Herr Draper, as previously noted, indeed those 'genuises' were Englishman.

But they decided they'd had enough and became Americans.

Judging by the numbers of ex-pats here and the UK emigration figures, the tradition continues.
Now now Brick, we can't pick and choose only what we like. One must be democratic with official Immigration policy, you know, and there's no handy reason we could get away with that would limit their quota to less than any other country's.
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Tsk! tsk! chaps come on, I know yer don't mean it, after all we are the only friends you have left in the World.
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tony draper... Tsk! tsk! chaps come on, I know yer don't mean it, after all we are the only friends you have left in the World.
Well maybe not reeeeeally really, but my forebear served in a Kentucky militia unit during the Revolution and sometimes I think genetic memory, or something, kicks in.


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Old 5th Dec 2008, 12:15
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Tony,

A couple of points if I may:

1. With friends like these...

2. Regarding tea, I'm no expert so I'll take your word that you can't get a decent cup here. But it says something to me about the beverage and, perhaps, the psychology of it, that the only time I really want tea is when I'm sick...


By the way, G. Washington might have been on the British side if they hadn't snubbed him as a young man seeking a commission. Instead, the British Army sneered at the 'colonial,' following his service in the French-Indian War.

Nothing's changed, I guess.
 
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Old 5th Dec 2008, 12:24
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By the way, G. Washington might have been on the British side if they hadn't snubbed him as a young man seeking a commission. Instead, the British Army sneered at the 'colonial,' following his service in the French-Indian War.
Too true, but many historians regard Washington as a rather poor military leader. He was an exceptional figure head of the newly created country though.
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Old 5th Dec 2008, 12:32
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Washington's, like Eisenhower's, greatest strength was his ability to hold the force together against both a military foe (Redcoats) and political masters (Continental Congress).

His Presidential precedents were/are very shrewd.

The highlight, I think, being his voluntary stepping down after two terms.
 
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Old 5th Dec 2008, 12:46
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...one simply cannot get a decent cup of tea there.
One can, one takes one's own. Apart from having to make my own tea, I love the place. Its full of Americans, nature's gentlemen (and some real nice ladies too).

I sometimes feel bad about taking the mickey, but its a bit like fishing - getting a bite is addcitive.
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I sometimes feel bad about taking the mickey, but its a bit like fishing - getting a bite is addcitive.
In that respect it must be easier than fishing!!!
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but its a bit like fishing
Well, as every nation and its brother is free to overfish your territorial waters, I can see how you'd like it over here.
 
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Old 5th Dec 2008, 13:07
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Seattle is good for fish.

Pacific Salmon. Clam Chowder. Mmmmmm! ... and some of the best halibut you'd ever find

oops! ...and I nearly forgot the Bourbon.
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If the United States was a democracy George W Bush would be Governor of Texas, nothing more.

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How the bloody hell can President Donkey claim to be from the oldest democracy when "the guy who gets most votes becomes President" has only been going on continuously for the past four years.

One would like to preemt the obvious response that Brown got zero popular votes for his position by completely agreeing. But Brown did most of his damage prior to getting the top job (though not long until he does a lot more), Bush managed to do the decent thing and wait until after.
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Old 5th Dec 2008, 13:29
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Tsk! tsk! chaps come on, I know yer don't mean it, after all we are the only friends you have left in the World.
You forgot Poland!
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Old 5th Dec 2008, 13:38
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Not to mention Japan, Latvia, Czech Republic, Singapore, Tanzania, Israel and Canada among others, and freedom loving people even in the United Kingdom.

One more time:


Yeah, they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles
And they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go.
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em
Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexicooooooo



And I don't think President Bush would change his name to governor Texas under any circumstances.
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Old 5th Dec 2008, 14:23
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Typical tetchy Americans,if they can't defend what has been stated they attack other people instead. So for the record, if Mr Draper says you can't get a decent cup of tea there then it is true ok? no amount of abuse can change this so live with it!
(doesn't bother me at all, I don't drink the stuff)
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Originally Posted by Wod View Post
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." (Winston Churchill : from a House of Commons speech on Nov. 11, 1947)
I prefer this one........

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

Again, Churchill.

No doubt he would be even more sceptical if he was still around to see what passes for democracy today.
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Old 5th Dec 2008, 14:45
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Democracy from Democritus? 'Tother way around, innit?

'Tis Greek: δεμοκρατια derived from δεμοs = people and κρατια = rule.
Hence "rule of the people".

It wasn't invented in the USA, though, so is not officially recognised there. It involves some strange principles, now generally discredited, such as the person with the most votes wins the election, and you don't get to be supreme leader without a proper election.

That wipes out the concept of proper democracy in the USA and UK.
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Old 5th Dec 2008, 14:56
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The problem with drinking tea Stateside is that it's almost impossible to get a decent tea-pot. One that is designed purely to make a nice cuppa tea. You can get fancy ones that yer average Yank buys in some mistaken hope that by putting it on their counter they will get a European sophistication for less than ten bucks. You even get some that appear from a distance to be the real thing, but when you do your first pour it just dribbles out of the spout and onto the table-top instead of into your finest bone china teacup.

It was a constant dilemma flying back to the States whether to to use up one's baggage allowance with 24 cans of Boddingtons or half a dozen decent tea pots to be sold at ludicrous profit to expats. Needless to say the boddingtons always won.

One also always used to get great pleasure telling Americans the true story behind the Boston Tea Party, quite unlike the revisionist history story taught in the US. Throwing all that decent English tea overboard like that and instead having to drink the Dutch muck smuggled in by the protesters who saw the English stuff as too much competition. No wonder they went off on their own, rotted their minds it did.
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