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Old 13th Mar 2008, 15:05
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Man runs on runway at LHR

On the BBC, Man with back pack runs in front a plane!?

Runway closed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7294745.stm

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Old 13th Mar 2008, 15:13
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Confirmed Man arrested at 14:05 on runway 27r .
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Old 13th Mar 2008, 15:17
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Yep, other runway operating.
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Initial report suggests that rucksack contained a 250ml bottle of water. Lucky he wasn't shot
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Old 13th Mar 2008, 15:20
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You could probably get away with a shot. It's only about 25ml in my local.
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Old 13th Mar 2008, 15:21
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According to news only 27R closed. Seems like a nutter or something more sinister. Reports say he ran in path of plane.
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...309211,00.html
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Reports say he ran in path of plane.
Yeah but Heathrow's so busy that if you're on the runway it's hard NOT to be infront of a plane.
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Old 13th Mar 2008, 15:29
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the question really is "would you stop?"
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Old 13th Mar 2008, 15:32
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Best you could hope for is to snag a rucksack strap following the words "positive climb" and take him for a ride to JFK they know how to deal with frozen corpses!
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Does anyone know about the perimiter fence itself? Size, height, materials etc...

I recently flew from New York LGA and was shocked by how easy it would be for someone to scale its fence- a simple wire mesh fence, maybe 7 foot high with a little bit of barbed wire on top. Even passed a security gate which prevented unauthorised vehicles from driving onto the apron with nothing more than a raisable barrier (identical to the type found in car parks)....

Latest from BBC news- "northernly runway now partially operational, southern fully operational, some delays expected."
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Initial report suggests that rucksack contained a 250ml bottle of water. Lucky he wasn't shot
No chance he was from Greenpeace. Bottled water?!? He'd be kicked out instantly.
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Old 13th Mar 2008, 15:47
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Must be serious, Sky have wheeled David Learmount out!
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Old 13th Mar 2008, 15:57
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There's more than one place in the world where, after having scaled the fence, he'd be lucky to have actually made it to the concrete without having one or two holes put in him...

Plastic 787,

So what? Most people (ie. the bulk of the Beeb's audience) have no idea what '27R' means, let alone '09L/27R'. It is the northerly of EGLL's two east-west oriented runways; hence it's the 'north' one. An entirely accurate description. And if it happened at the western end, then, getting a tad more technical for those interested, then '27R' is accurate.

Approach gets you lined up for '27R', not 'the northerly runway' or 'the eastern end of 09L/27R'.
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Love the way that...
Love the way that a certain type of PPRuNer always leaps to criticise journalists who may or may not be blessed with an inbuilt glossary of aviation jargon, and who unsurprisingly have used phrases that their audience are actually more likely to understand.

The runway inquestion IS the runway skirting the full length of the northern perimeter of the airport, and it does appear that it was very close to the 27R Threshold where the action was, and 27R was in use at the time, so what on earth is achieved by splitting hairs and introducing contrary nonsense about 09L being an equally valid description?

Learn this: Jargon is useless for any audience outside of one comprised solely of the minority groups that use it. And evidently minority groups don't always know what's best for them.

Mr Learmount is doing the rounds it seems. What he seems to want to say sounds equally useless to me. He is suggesting that small objects on runways are of no danger to aircraft - obviously he missed yesterday's revived story 'Continental Airlines metal strip caused Concorde puncture' that made it again to the newsrounds yesterday.


Edit: you said it first Taildragger ...
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I meant that calling it the Northerly Runway is sufficient. You made the point exactly, the majority of the audience wouldnt know what 27R meant. So why even bother calling it this?

I'm sorry its just 24 Hour News really gets on my tits, this is a non-story thats only reported because they have time to fill and it helps them create more sensationalist "terrorist" alarm. In the good old days of the 70s/80s when there was a 6 o clock news and nine o clock news and not much in between this wouldnt have been featured at all I bet.
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Latest news from BBC 24 is that a controlled explosion has been carried out on two bags- no explosives were found.

plastic787- If you refuse to listen to a word the media say about anything Aviation related, how are you aware of this story!?
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I'm actually they bothered to put in the '27R' bit - journos usually get pilloried on PPRuNe for not being 'up the curve' enough on aviation stories - so here, they appear to be trying to strike a balance between ab-initio ('the northern runway') and geek ('27R').

I do agree that 24-hr news channels need to dredge stuff up to fill the time; in this case, though, it is news when ops are (even potentially) affected as it could potentially affect thosands of peoples' travel plans.
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Old 13th Mar 2008, 16:14
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Yeah I thought that too ... but the video footage they captured before the police told them to bugger off did show the big white numbers "27" in almost every shot so I guess that prompted someone to say "whassathen/wheresathen?"...

What I do object to, being British, yet not being allowed to set up a company named anything starting "British..." unless it truly is in remarkable ways, is the British Broadcasting Corporation's (John Sople's) howler in twice reading press release statements from BAA and labelling them as from the "British Airports Authority". That's not an aviation-related misunderstanding, it's lack of basic citizenship ... oh and alright then, he also propounded that other grating error about the Greenpeace "Boeing Triple-Seven" tail protest / security breach in the same breath ... altogether now (quietly ) .... it was an Airbus not a bloody Boeing!

I wonder where the two rucksacks would be now if it had been foggy this morning....
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The police probably had every right to shoot him dead. The news is saying Arabic/Asian appearance running on the runway with a ruck sack. Shoot him I say. Endangering the lives of hundreds of people. Rather than him being released and going back for a communal hug-in at green peace headquarters or wherever, if the lefty pinko officials from whoever organised this were called in to identify a stiff, then maybe they wouldn't do it again.
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