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Old 12th Mar 2008, 14:34
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Plastic Bags

So the subterfuge hits new heights then? Plastic bags for sale as yet another stealth tax is invented. Evidently "85% of the public want to see the end of plastic bags" that are a scourge on the countryside, contribute to the decay of the environment and cause untold discomfort, pain and eventual death to those indigenous animals/fish/birds that ingest them.

Indigenous species like duck-billed platypus, sharks, storks, tigers, wildebeest and the like that the Maily Dail so cleverly fed us pictures of last week over several pages. All the fault of Tesco, Sainsbury' and whomever where the blame could be placed! But we can sort that out, can't we? We'll just ban them!

Whoopee doo! Well, that's certainly taken our beady eyes off of other things then? What a coup!

Well, as a certain age I can clearly remember taking a dirty old rag bag to the greengrocer's to get the spuds, with the muck still on them. Then off to the chippie with a basin to get one's measure of chips and mushy peas. I can also remember going out to the horse-drawn dray to get the milk, measured out straight from the churn into an earthenware pansion supplied by mum! So it will be nothing new to some of us, we've been there, done it!

And it's all coming back again! We'll be taking a suitcase to M&S next to pick up a few shirts or half a dozen pair of nicks because they don't give us a free bag any more. But what about the recycling of the plaggy bag into a kitchen bin liner? We'll have to BUY those now. OMG what is the country coming to? Plaggy Bags for God's sake, whatever next? Ban on condoms because they choke the seagulls/ducks/snakes or whatever?

Ah! Back to The Good Old Days, restoration of Victorian Values like Maggie wanted us to enjoy. Sitting on an outside bog at the dead of night, going to bed with a candle because my old gran would not let 'that electric nonsense' come near HER house. (Didn't have an electric light 'till I was 13), it's all coming back with Noo Labor.

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Old 12th Mar 2008, 14:39
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So, if people are forced to buy plastic bags to use as bin liners, to replace the plastic bags that are being banned....


How, exactly, does this reduce the amount of plastic bags we throw out?
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 14:43
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It doesn't, it just collects more money of us! It's the new climate change.....................

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Old 12th Mar 2008, 14:46
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Wat am a gonna do with me dog doo?
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 14:46
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Why didn't they just mandate that the bags are biodegradable and return to mother earth after 6 months in sunlight? Like paper bags.
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 14:47
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There's been a tax on plastic bags here in Ireland for yonks, the amount of plastic bag usage from supermarkets has dropped by 98%. Yet the sale of bin liners has risen by only 2% (mainly due to the influx of eastern european immigrants in my belief), so that argument doesn't hold water.
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 14:58
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Post it to Gordon Brown.
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 15:03
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Methinks these are for a comeback:

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Old 12th Mar 2008, 15:45
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My recent experience suggests that supermarket plastic bags are already degradable.

Put some odds and sods into one about four years ago, plonked it on top of the wardrobe. Retrieved it the other day and the bag went to dust in my hands.
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 15:49
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Let's hear it for the dung beetles

Originally Posted by gingernut View Post
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Shytalk: Why didn't they just mandate that the bags are biodegradable and return to mother earth after 6 months in sunlight? Like paper bags.
Cut out the middle man. No bags, just let the dung beetles and certain dogs get rid of the poo.
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 15:58
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Environmentally conscious

I always reuse the plastic bags from the store as litter bags for my car.



When they get full, I just toss them out the window.
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 16:07
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Interesting article in the Times the other day . As it was in a paper it no doubt has errors but basically it was saying that targeting supermarket plastic bags is political headline stuff and there is no valid scientific evidence that they are a significant problem to the environment .
It also said that since the Irish move bin liner sales had gone up 400% so who is right ?
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 16:25
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Another reporter in Ireland here: as the bag tax came in, so did cloth bags, for not much money. All it means is that I carry one or more of those with me if I know I'm going shopping, or I can still get a couple of plastic bags if I need them, enough for lining small bins etc. They don't fit the big bins anyway i.e. I buy no more bin liners now than before.

Pretty much a non-event, in other words, no culture shock was involved. The effect of the changes wasn't some woolly environmental statistic, it was an immediately visible reduction in litter, which (IMHO) made it worth the little cost and effort involved.

I guess that M&S will sell you the same bags they sell here, which are nice: black, stylish, and easy on the hands.
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 16:30
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I have a perfectly good leather shopping bag,
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 16:38
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Methinks these are for a comeback:

I was thinking the same thing!
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 17:49
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You could do some of those idiots who walk and text at the same time some serious damage with one of those. I think they would need to be properly padded.
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 18:04
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I agree C130, those hoodie idiots should be properly paddled, preferably with one of these!



What's that you say? You said padded? Ah ok, yes, make them walk around in padded suits to prevent them injuring people. Double whammy, they look stupid (and believe me, there's no greater deterrent for them than THAT particular sin) and save thousands of pounds of NHS cash not having to treat their injuries!
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Old 12th Mar 2008, 18:18
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Matt, what I meant was ....... oh never mind... same end result either way

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Old 12th Mar 2008, 21:03
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Wat am a gonna do with me dog doo?
Get dog don't instead?
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Old 20th Mar 2008, 20:34
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It's good to know that Freddie Mercury is on board with this campaign...
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