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Old 13th Jan 2011, 05:56
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Australia is reeling with floods and suffering. And yet, shamelessly, Kevin Trenberth and a host of other " climate scientists " have linked the Australian floods to Climate Change.

Scientists see climate change link to Australian floods - Yahoo! News

There seem to be no limit to the lows to which the Climate Science community can stoop to in order to further their scam.
In the words of Rahm Emmanuel: "Never let a large crisis go to waste"


And here's the great James Hansen stating

Hansen: US Democracy Not Competent To Deal With Global Warming, Calls on Communist China to “Save Humanity”
And the people behind this whole thing reveal their true colors. The whole thing apparently is about advancing a totalitarian dictatorship...
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Old 13th Jan 2011, 07:06
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Let's start a new blame culture:



Wind Turbines Cause Australian Floods

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Old 13th Jan 2011, 13:42
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You couldn't make it up! After Greenpeace blamed global warming for Israel’s worst ever fire, an investigation has revealed the fire was started accidentally by an environmentalist at an eco camp

Environmentalist Starts Israel’s Worst Ever Fire: Greenpeace Blames Global Warming. | hauntingthelibrary
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Old 13th Jan 2011, 13:59
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They'll just claim the grass was dry due to AGW.

Incidentally, I notice that the "unprecedented" flooding in the southern hemisphere is due to AGW, but the unprecedented cold conditions in the north are just weather.

Again.
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Old 13th Jan 2011, 20:00
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You couldn't make it up! After Greenpeace blamed global warming for Israel’s worst ever fire, an investigation has revealed the fire was started accidentally by an environmentalist at an eco camp
Clearly they're not against creating and exploiting disasters for their own agenda. When you consider the lengths they're willing to go to, you wonder what the true extent of their objectives are
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Old 13th Jan 2011, 22:20
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For Gore, Money. For the Warmeristas, Ideology. For the "Scientists", BOTH.
 
Old 13th Jan 2011, 22:30
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49 of 50 US States have snow on the ground this week.....only Florida escaped! AGW my hind end!
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Old 13th Jan 2011, 23:16
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so you mean 48...Hawaii and Florida?
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Old 13th Jan 2011, 23:23
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Hawaii ne has mucho snow. Beeg Islan' Mauna Kea, mos ono. I ski deah, bra. Mos froze okole, pilikea
 
Old 14th Jan 2011, 00:58
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PA....I said what I meant....all but one of our States has snow otherwise I would have said something else. What is hard to accept about a statement like that?

Robert Hansen....Al Gore's "Go To Man" at NASA for AGW has called Americans "Barbarians" and has called for Communist China to be the World's saviour re climate.

Tell me this AGW bovine fecal matter is not purely Liberal Politics wrapped up in green wrapping instead of the favoured Red tissue!
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 01:08
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SASLess,

This isn't really about communism or corporatism; this is just about control. Whether you're the head of a fascist government or a communist government, or some kind of corporatist oligarchy you wield absolute power, which is really their goal.
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 01:42
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Thanks, Bear...

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Sorry, I did not know that...thought it was a mistype...only a few times a year on three mountains...makes sense though...
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 02:25
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University of Virginia have spent $500,000 in legal fees on fighting Virginia's Attorney General to release e-mails of Mann. And the estimated cost to release them? $8,000

Go figure!

Government at work: spend $500,000 to save $8,000 | Watts Up With That?
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 02:30
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NOAA's annual global warming report for 2010 is online - but the December data have not yet been released (and thus not incorporated in the annual summary.)
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 02:45
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And here's another overhyped global warming myth laid to rest. The claim of the AGW crowd was that penguins in antartic were dying due to global warming. Now it has been shown that the tags put on scientists on to the flippers of the penguins for tracking them, are actually causing death amongst the penguins. The tagged penguins expended more energy while swimming and arrived late at food foraging sites. They also had reproductive problems.

Another overhyped global warming claim bites the dust | Watts Up With That?

So the problem is being created here by the act of measurement, by scientists. The tagged penguins would look different to the others, affecting mating behaviour. The tags also seem to obviously affect the hydrodynamics and swimming performance of the penguins.
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 02:54
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looking back I wrote
so you mean 48...Hawaii and Florida?
I really meant to write
Do you mean 48...Hawaii and Florida?


although question answered...
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 02:56
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Yea barit1, makes you wonder about these guys isn't it? " Annual " report, omitting December? Somebody should tell them that 2010 ended on December 31st, not in November.

And isn't this the NCDC data, the same data demonstrated by peer reviewed science to have “an estimated warm bias of about 30%”?

Typically NCDC data comes out on or about the 15th of the next month; e.g. December’s data is expected around 15th January. This report was released on the 12th. Last month they did not give November’s data until after Christmas.

So it appears that NCDC are playing politics. They are releasing this " annual " report, before they issue the December report, because they know that when the December report comes out it will show that global temperatures are starting the expected drop. We are in a La Nina year.
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 03:05
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Ski in the morning, Snorkel in the afternoon. Just like Cali, except Hawaiian snow is Primo.

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And who's the head honcho at NCDC? Kevin Trenberth, of Climategate fame, well known for statements about his critics like

" cast aspersions on their motives and throw in some counter rhetoric. Labeling them as lazy with nothing better to do seems like a good thing to do. "

Read below about his forthcoming speech at American Meterological Society [ AMS ]. See his speech draft given below and look at the nonsense he spouts.

Trenberth’s upcoming AMS meeting talk: ClimateGate Thoughts | Watts Up With That?

And see here his past behaviour and lies

Trenberth’s Bile Climate Audit

These are the people in charge of producing " adjusted and manipulated " temperature records and climate science!
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Old 14th Jan 2011, 05:29
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49 of 50 US States have snow on the ground this week.....only Florida escaped!
Sounds like we need to do something about climate change pretty quickly.
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