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Old 5th Feb 2005, 21:32
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Rice - is she a little arrogant?

This is not an attack on the US and it’s politics, hard though that may be to believe, but I’ve been looking at the news today on the internet and Ms Rice appears in several stories and today’s offerings are all along similar lines –

“Rice warns Russia on democracy”
“Russia must do more to show it is committed to democracy”
“Rice has called on Europe to show "unity of purpose" with Washington”
“She wanted to see the spread of democracy not only in Iran but throughout the Middle East”
“The Middle East is a place that is in need of reform and change”

I know this is what politicians do but this one just seems so full of herself and what she believes is all that counts. Maybe it’s just me but she seems a little arrogant for my liking. Other countries are entitled to other systems, all should not have to follow her vision (though I realise she is also supporting her boss). I am not supporting corruption or terrorism or persecution – I am attacking the way she comes across with her great sweeping statements– arrogant and bullish with an apparent total lack of respect for others, their values, lifestyles and beliefs.

“Her tour is aimed at revitalising relations with European nations” - she might get better results by being more diplomatic.

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Old 5th Feb 2005, 21:33
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Not sure if arrogant is quite the right word: dangerous works better IMHO.
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Old 5th Feb 2005, 21:55
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How about 'self important'?
Or just 'American'.
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Anneka? Had a nice arse I seem to recall.
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Old 5th Feb 2005, 22:03
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Arrogant might be an appropriate descriptor if those quotes actually belonged to Ms. Rice instead of some very biased "journalists" with an agenda.
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Old 5th Feb 2005, 22:06
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Grrr

For a woman who is so high profile, she really needs to get her hair and teeth fixed up - at the moment she reminds me of something out of the "Mars attacks" movie!
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Old 5th Feb 2005, 22:07
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Which of the five statements isn't 100% true??
Don't exactly agree with number 3 mind you, I wudda told Europe to go **** itself yonks ago.
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Old 5th Feb 2005, 22:23
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I am just a little taken aback by her arrogance - but have to hope that it is not meant that way - after all, she IS the first woman ever in that job and somehow I would imagine her spin doctors/advisers have fed her the line she needs to take to show she is "in charge" ...

If, however, she truly believes all she says then she needs to take time out to walk a few miles in shoes worn by many people around the globe to learn a degree of humility+wisdom!!

Oh and KaptinM just wondering if you would you make the same disparaging remark about a guy in a a high-profile position? Looking round the globe at men in positions of extreme authority I can see a lotta cosmetic surgery-in-waiting ...
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Old 5th Feb 2005, 22:38
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Yes, I would, brockenspectre - we're all into equality in and outside the workforce these days, aren't we?

The two points I mentioned are VERY minor adjustments - imo, her hairdresser should be given the boot, that style went out in the 1960's.

And her teeth look very healthy, and white, however the two front ones have a gap you could drive a semi-trailer (articulated lorry, for our British readers) through.
Again, a dental surgeon could fix that in probably under an hour.

Merely an observation by one who sees Condoleeza's face on the box at least several times in one day.
Why you took it as a gender thing, bs, I don't know...or are you one of those rabid, women's libbers who jump on men at every opportunity?
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Old 5th Feb 2005, 23:13
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You boys remember the Birmingham church bombing back in the sixties, don't you?

That was her neighborhood (15 miles from mine). She was friends with one of the four girls killed. In the segregation mecca that was the old Birmingham. Called "Bombingham" back then.

That she emerged at all normal and successful is quite an achievement. To be the most powerful cabinet member of the President is breathtaking.

If she was liberal she would be an icon even higher than Hillary. But she's not - she's just someone who maybe has a little baggage when it comes to voting rights, minority oppression and voiceless citizens.

And you make fun of her looks. Ah... some of that european sophistication we're always hearing about....
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Rice reminds me of a cheeky little kid who has her big brother waiting just around the corner, or ..... the outspoken neighbour who is walking three big dogs on a leash.
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Yes Huck, Australia is in Europe...................don't you know.
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Old 5th Feb 2005, 23:39
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"she IS the first woman ever in that job"

Which job?
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Old 5th Feb 2005, 23:41
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"after all, she IS the first woman ever in that job and somehow I would imagine "

Second, Brock....

Name: Madeleine Korbel Albright
State of Residency: District of Columbia
Non-career appointment
Appointment: January 17, 1997
Entry on Duty: January 23, 1997
Termination of Appointment: January 19, 2001

Although sending a rep to the Middle East where she could not vote, hold office, drive a car or go out in public seems a trifle insensative to me.
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Are you one of those rabid, women's libbers who jump on men at every opportunity?
I've been jumped on by one, and it's quite nice, actually...

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Old 6th Feb 2005, 02:25
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Teddy Roosevelt knew how to do it properly.


She's carrying the big stick...

...now she just needs to learn how to speak softly...
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Old 6th Feb 2005, 02:28
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America is biting off more than it can chew, such self righteous campaigns lose the salient moderates vote, get developed nations backs up, and make hitherto esoteric enemies look to the West with ominous unity.
The motives seem genuine enough but such a hap hazard approach to this democratic crusade is alarming.
Ofcourse, we get little sense of the internal workings promulgated by the US, but one has to wonder if the high profile exterior lacks subtlety what does that say for its brand of diplomacy?
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Old 6th Feb 2005, 11:12
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A hallmark of the Bush administration, like it or not, is that you don't have to guess what they really mean or what they really stand for. They tell you, sometimes less than diplomatically, but you can set your response by what they say, because that is what they'll do. In my opinion a big reason they were reelected.

She (Condi) is going to be a great one, I humbly predict, in momentous times. Cosmetics, my friend, are irrelevant at this level. Such a lamentable mindset, that one you disagree with must be ridiculed on a personal level in order to discredit them. Tsk, tsk.

Those wounded by perceived American arrogance have already spent the sensitivity they might have received in years past. The positions they took on Iraq's liberation and the incessant berating of Bush and Blair have rendered them predictible and now, ignorable.

Nice to see politics back on JetBlast. It's worthy of discussion.
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Old 6th Feb 2005, 12:28
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Strange that you should see Iraq as something to go trumpeting as a success for the Bush administration.
IMO, it's a bigger stuff up than Watergate and Viet Nam combined!

More than 1500 American soldiers dead, tens of thousands of INNOCENT Iraqis needlessly killed, maimed, or murdered, the country in a state of disarray - and you're saying it's a victory?

No wonder Bush was re-elected, with that sort of warped thinking!

God help America - because no-one else will!!
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Old 6th Feb 2005, 13:31
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Kaptin,

You must be directing your post as a response to mine, as there are no other proximate pro-Rice posts. Did I trumpet anything? Where did you get your "tens of thousands" figure?

"Needlessly" is dabatable and contextual, that is, one could argue the "needlessness" of the slaughter of WWII, indeed all wars as "needless". I didn't claim "victory". Whose warped thinking? So, what is your post all about, anyway?

There are plenty of nations and people around the world willing to help America. You just don't know about it because of the Euromyopia that informs you.
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