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Old 16th Mar 2002, 06:49
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I was reading an article on BBC just now and I had such an urge to start a topic involving politics--I almost gave in! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> . .. .With all respect to Danny and PPRuNe admin and their decisions, why is PPRuNe a no-politics zone? Is it because certain individuals ruin potentially enlightening and intelligent discussion? Or some other reason? I would say that most PPRuNers would be able to hold their warlike inclinations ( <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> ) during such a discussion and express their views in an intelligent and adult way.. .. .Maybe I'm wrong. I only came into Jet Blast in the last few months and I don't know what went on previously, so maybe some of the regular JB'ers could enlighten me? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> . .. .Maybe not religion. I can see where that would become a problem. But politics, it seems, would not be too bad.. .. .I just think that it would be interesting to hear other people's points of view on various issues (that is without having to go find some other bulletin board <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="redface.gif" /> . . . in fact PPRuNe is the only forum I am regularly involved with . . . there are just too many wierd fora out there . . .) and this site is a wonderfully diverse and international gathering of people. . .. .Anybody have any views here?. .. .SFly <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />. . . . <small>[ 16 March 2002, 02:51: Message edited by: SFly ]</small>
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Old 16th Mar 2002, 13:41
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SFly, there have been many spirited discussions on this subject and, for the most part, PPRuNers were able to state their points of view in a perfectly rational manner. Unfortunately, there were some who took things very personally and placed their own interpretation on some statements that were made. On some "political" threads, that resulted in a gradual slide into the realms of name-calling and mud-slinging.. .. .Instead of lively dicussion and even heated debate (which is not a problem on JetBlast) we ended up with some fairly bitter - even vicious at times - comments being made about fellow posters and the whole point of the thread in question being lost in a welter of very personal attacks.. .. .At this point, Danny stepped in and called a halt to the proceedings. It is true that threads on politics can be extremely interesting but it doesn't seem likely that we will see them here again in the foreseeable future.
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Old 17th Mar 2002, 05:43
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I have a theory, it might be something to do with king Tony firing legislation at the hip, if it’s bad for common policy (him being common) then ban it. You can’t do anything without politics; if you don’t believe me try talking to your local politician (then your solicitor) . .. .Everyone who rises gets bitten, right Danny?
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Old 17th Mar 2002, 05:56
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Maybe BO, but in our group in our local we've got the same ban - no politics or religion.. .. .It starts off as an interesting discussion but all too quickly, (especially when beer's involved!) it gets very loud and boring and invariably the same people keep getting up spouting the same repetitive carp ("sic" before the sp get onto me!) and it ends up with people getting barred - JB's just like real life!
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Old 17th Mar 2002, 13:42
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SFly - would you please discuss the political situation in Northern Ireland but avoid all mention of religion, alternatively, discuss the religious situiation in NI but without mentioning politics? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
Old 17th Mar 2002, 14:05
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Very Well Answered G Khan!. .. .In an "Gentlemen Only Organisation" to which I belong (see the Gentlemen's Clubs Thread), we have a ban on the discussion of only two subjects, Party Politics and Organised Religion. Why? Its is because these are the two subjects which cause most disharmony between Brethren.. .. .It is likewise on Jet Blast, and I with others was very guilty in the past of losing the normal polite conventions of discussion and sinking to the level of the gutter, of personal insult and vituperation, when faced with the to me unpalatable viewpoint of an opponent on some controversial issue, be it religious or political or, as G Khan so wisely illustrates over the Ulster situation, politico-religious or religio- political.. .. .Danny Fyne, who we ought to remember, provides this entire website as a FREE service to those in Aviation and its associated industries got fed up with the nasty playground level that some threads . .had degenerated to and banned Politics and Religion. As he says, its NOT a Democracy, its HIS website and what he says goes, we havent got a vote! . .. .Since then, apart from one nasty poster, thankfully gone, who singled out another individual PPruner for personal abuse, the standard of debate has improved and people are again polite, in general, to each other on these pages. It is also interesting to note that the Jet Blast community have found ways to push against the envelope on many threads without being overtly political or religious.. .. .So I back Danny 100% on his prohibition of these two subjects and long may it continue. Democracy is a double edged sword and sometimes need to be kept in its scabbard.
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