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Russian emergency services personnel working at the crash site at Rostov-on-Don airport - 19 MarchImage copyrightAFP/Russia Emergency Ministry
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The FlyDubai jet crashed while attempting to land
A passenger jet has crashed in the southern Russian city of Rostov-on-Don killing all 55 passengers and seven crew on board, officials say.
The FlyDubai Boeing 737-800, coming from Dubai, missed the runway as it attempted to land at 03:50 local time (00:50 GMT) on Saturday.
It is not clear what caused the crash but poor visibility and high winds are being considered as a factor.
There were reports of a fire or an explosion on board.
Reports say the plane abandoned its initial attempt to land and circled for two hours before crashing at the second attempt.
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It came down about 250m (800ft) short of the start of the runway in Rostov, some 950km (600 miles) south of Moscow.
Most of the passengers on board flight FZ981 were Russian, the regional governor said. Another official said three foreigners were on the passenger list, Reuters reported, but this has not been confirmed.
Russian emergency services working at the crash site at Rostov-on-Don airportImage copyrightAFP/Russia Emergency Ministry
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Rostov-on-Don airport has been closed following the crash
A CCTV video showed what appeared to be a plane landing at the airport before being engulfed in a huge fire.
About 700 rescue workers were sent to the site of the crash and the fire was extinguished, media reports said.
A search is under way for the plane's flight recorders and an investigation has been opened into the cause of the crash.
Other flights have been diverted away from the airport.
Map of Rostov-on-Don in Russia
Flydubai plane at the Dubai AirshowImage copyrightReuters
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FlyDubai is a low cost carrier based in the United Arab Emirates
In a statement on its Facebook page, the airliner confirmed the "tragic accident" and said an emergency response has been put in place.
Boeing said on Twitter its team was working to gather more details.
FlyDubai, a low cost carrier launched in 2009 with a hub in Dubai, operates flights to some 90 destinations.
Image caption
The FlyDubai jet crashed while attempting to land
A passenger jet has crashed in the southern Russian city of Rostov-on-Don killing all 55 passengers and seven crew on board, officials say.
The FlyDubai Boeing 737-800, coming from Dubai, missed the runway as it attempted to land at 03:50 local time (00:50 GMT) on Saturday.
It is not clear what caused the crash but poor visibility and high winds are being considered as a factor.
There were reports of a fire or an explosion on board.
Reports say the plane abandoned its initial attempt to land and circled for two hours before crashing at the second attempt.
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It came down about 250m (800ft) short of the start of the runway in Rostov, some 950km (600 miles) south of Moscow.
Most of the passengers on board flight FZ981 were Russian, the regional governor said. Another official said three foreigners were on the passenger list, Reuters reported, but this has not been confirmed.
Russian emergency services working at the crash site at Rostov-on-Don airportImage copyrightAFP/Russia Emergency Ministry
Image caption
Rostov-on-Don airport has been closed following the crash
A CCTV video showed what appeared to be a plane landing at the airport before being engulfed in a huge fire.
About 700 rescue workers were sent to the site of the crash and the fire was extinguished, media reports said.
A search is under way for the plane's flight recorders and an investigation has been opened into the cause of the crash.
Other flights have been diverted away from the airport.
Map of Rostov-on-Don in Russia
Flydubai plane at the Dubai AirshowImage copyrightReuters
Image caption
FlyDubai is a low cost carrier based in the United Arab Emirates
In a statement on its Facebook page, the airliner confirmed the "tragic accident" and said an emergency response has been put in place.
Boeing said on Twitter its team was working to gather more details.
FlyDubai, a low cost carrier launched in 2009 with a hub in Dubai, operates flights to some 90 destinations.
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Russian emergency services personnel working at the crash site at Rostov-on-Don airport - 19 MarchImage copyrightAFP/Russia Emergency Ministry
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The FlyDubai jet crashed while attempting to land
A passenger jet has crashed in the southern Russian city of Rostov-on-Don killing all 55 passengers and seven crew on board, officials say.
The FlyDubai Boeing 737-800, coming from Dubai, missed the runway as it attempted to land at 03:50 local time (00:50 GMT) on Saturday.
It is not clear what caused the crash but poor visibility and high winds are being considered as a factor.
There were reports of a fire or an explosion on board.
Reports say the plane abandoned its initial attempt to land and circled for two hours before crashing at the second attempt.
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It came down about 250m (800ft) short of the start of the runway in Rostov, some 950km (600 miles) south of Moscow.
Most of the passengers on board flight FZ981 were Russian, the regional governor said. Another official said three foreigners were on the passenger list, Reuters reported, but this has not been confirmed.
Russian emergency services working at the crash site at Rostov-on-Don airportImage copyrightAFP/Russia Emergency Ministry
Image caption
Rostov-on-Don airport has been closed following the crash
A CCTV video showed what appeared to be a plane landing at the airport before being engulfed in a huge fire.
About 700 rescue workers were sent to the site of the crash and the fire was extinguished, media reports said.
A search is under way for the plane's flight recorders and an investigation has been opened into the cause of the crash.
Other flights have been diverted away from the airport.
Map of Rostov-on-Don in Russia
Flydubai plane at the Dubai AirshowImage copyrightReuters
Image caption
FlyDubai is a low cost carrier based in the United Arab Emirates
In a statement on its Facebook page, the airliner confirmed the "tragic accident" and said an emergency response has been put in place.
Boeing said on Twitter its team was working to gather more details.
FlyDubai, a low cost carrier launched in 2009 with a hub in Dubai, operates flights to some 90 destinations.
Image caption
The FlyDubai jet crashed while attempting to land
A passenger jet has crashed in the southern Russian city of Rostov-on-Don killing all 55 passengers and seven crew on board, officials say.
The FlyDubai Boeing 737-800, coming from Dubai, missed the runway as it attempted to land at 03:50 local time (00:50 GMT) on Saturday.
It is not clear what caused the crash but poor visibility and high winds are being considered as a factor.
There were reports of a fire or an explosion on board.
Reports say the plane abandoned its initial attempt to land and circled for two hours before crashing at the second attempt.
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It came down about 250m (800ft) short of the start of the runway in Rostov, some 950km (600 miles) south of Moscow.
Most of the passengers on board flight FZ981 were Russian, the regional governor said. Another official said three foreigners were on the passenger list, Reuters reported, but this has not been confirmed.
Russian emergency services working at the crash site at Rostov-on-Don airportImage copyrightAFP/Russia Emergency Ministry
Image caption
Rostov-on-Don airport has been closed following the crash
A CCTV video showed what appeared to be a plane landing at the airport before being engulfed in a huge fire.
About 700 rescue workers were sent to the site of the crash and the fire was extinguished, media reports said.
A search is under way for the plane's flight recorders and an investigation has been opened into the cause of the crash.
Other flights have been diverted away from the airport.
Map of Rostov-on-Don in Russia
Flydubai plane at the Dubai AirshowImage copyrightReuters
Image caption
FlyDubai is a low cost carrier based in the United Arab Emirates
In a statement on its Facebook page, the airliner confirmed the "tragic accident" and said an emergency response has been put in place.
Boeing said on Twitter its team was working to gather more details.
FlyDubai, a low cost carrier launched in 2009 with a hub in Dubai, operates flights to some 90 destinations.
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Quasi sicuramente violento wisdshear in corto finale , il vento era molto forte fino a 33K gust 48K. Pare siano rimasti parecchio per aria dopo il primo tentativo in attesa di condizioni migliori.
Ecco i metar all'orario dello schianto (NB il vento è in metri al secondo) :
SA 19/03/2016 01:00->
METAR URRR 190100Z 24014G22MPS 3800 -SHRA BKN014 BKN033CB
OVC100 06/04 Q0997 R22/290046 TEMPO 25017G25MPS
1000 SHRA BR SCT003 BKN020CB RMK QFE740/0987=
SA 19/03/2016 00:30->
METAR URRR 190030Z 24012G19MPS 6000 -SHRA SCT018 BKN036CB
OVC100 06/04 Q0998 R22/290046 TEMPO 25017G25MPS
1000 SHRA BR SCT003 BKN020CB RMK QFE741/0988=
SA 19/03/2016 00:00->
METAR URRR 190000Z 24010MPS 8000 -SHRA SCT017 BKN040CB OVC100
06/03 Q0998 WS R22 R22/290046 TEMPO 25015G20MPS
1000 SHRA BR SCT003 BKN020CB RMK QFE741/0988=
Ecco i metar all'orario dello schianto (NB il vento è in metri al secondo) :
SA 19/03/2016 01:00->
METAR URRR 190100Z 24014G22MPS 3800 -SHRA BKN014 BKN033CB
OVC100 06/04 Q0997 R22/290046 TEMPO 25017G25MPS
1000 SHRA BR SCT003 BKN020CB RMK QFE740/0987=
SA 19/03/2016 00:30->
METAR URRR 190030Z 24012G19MPS 6000 -SHRA SCT018 BKN036CB
OVC100 06/04 Q0998 R22/290046 TEMPO 25017G25MPS
1000 SHRA BR SCT003 BKN020CB RMK QFE741/0988=
SA 19/03/2016 00:00->
METAR URRR 190000Z 24010MPS 8000 -SHRA SCT017 BKN040CB OVC100
06/03 Q0998 WS R22 R22/290046 TEMPO 25015G20MPS
1000 SHRA BR SCT003 BKN020CB RMK QFE741/0988=
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Mah se il fuel lo avevano come pare mi viene solo da pensare la "pressione" di un ospite invisibile sul jump seat a cui dover poi spiegare una diversion un fuori ore ed un overnight con conseguente disruption per il resto del planning...ed al solito questo ospite ti porta nell'angolo dove mai ti vorresti trovare...detto questo è meglio aspettare dei dati concreti prima di avventurarsi in qualsivoglia critica...al caldo con il **** a terra siamo tutti bravi a sparare sentenze...
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Per la verità io una volta andavo a SVO e dirottai a LED senza alcun problema......rifornito....ripartito per SVO quando le condizioni erano migliori e rimasto a SVO per le ore effettuate.......
Non saprei che dire....
Anche in "passato un pochino più lontano" dall'Havana a Toronto ..... dirottato a Boston....passeggeri rimasti a bordo (non potevano scendere e siamo rimasti piantonati)....rifornito....ripartito (Paese con Embargo)....
A terra dentro un aereo ci puoi rimanere (seppur scomodo) anche "una vita".....per aria no......
(non entro nel merito dell'incidente in quanto non so veramente nulla se non quello che
Non saprei che dire....
Anche in "passato un pochino più lontano" dall'Havana a Toronto ..... dirottato a Boston....passeggeri rimasti a bordo (non potevano scendere e siamo rimasti piantonati)....rifornito....ripartito (Paese con Embargo)....
A terra dentro un aereo ci puoi rimanere (seppur scomodo) anche "una vita".....per aria no......
(non entro nel merito dell'incidente in quanto non so veramente nulla se non quello che
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Perché poni la domanda se poi non ascolti/accetti la risposta?
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Io non vorrei che ci fossero state pressioni da parte dell'operatore ad atterrare; la messaggistica ACARS oppure via Phone sarebbe da analizzare sempre se esiste ancora...
Certo non mi spiego due ore di attesa che senso hanno...
Certo non mi spiego due ore di attesa che senso hanno...
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Sia ben chiaro: mi guardo bene dal fare commenti fuori luogo.
Questo è il tempo del dolore!
Però:
Mi impensieriscono:
- L'eccessiva ripidità della discesa
- A giudicare dall'esplosione appare evidente che non stavano volando coi fumi
Ecco dimostrato che puoi fare tutto l'extra fuel che vuoi, ma... 'cum grano salis'
Riposino in Pace.
Questo è il tempo del dolore!
Però:
Mi impensieriscono:
- L'eccessiva ripidità della discesa
- A giudicare dall'esplosione appare evidente che non stavano volando coi fumi
Ecco dimostrato che puoi fare tutto l'extra fuel che vuoi, ma... 'cum grano salis'
Riposino in Pace.
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Poveri loro e le rispettive famiglie.
Sono addolorato per la tragedia anche perché sento da vicino la cosa, ho tanti amici che lavorano in quella compagnia. Sono però allo stesso momento arrabbiato per come purtroppo l'aviazione si è trasformata in peggio, continue pressioni subdole da parte del management e sfruttamento massimo di ogni singolo minuto delle FTL e dei mille altri vari cavilli.
Tornando al discorso per quanto riguarda la Russia non ho mai avuto problemi per quanto riguarda i dirottamenti a differenza invece della Cina dove ad esempio non puoi assolutamente cambiare l'alternato in volo rispetto a quello dichiarato sul piano di volo. In alcuni casi non è possibile chiedere di evitare per meteo senza ALCUNA eccezione manco in mayday. I cinesi si che sono strani.
Sono addolorato per la tragedia anche perché sento da vicino la cosa, ho tanti amici che lavorano in quella compagnia. Sono però allo stesso momento arrabbiato per come purtroppo l'aviazione si è trasformata in peggio, continue pressioni subdole da parte del management e sfruttamento massimo di ogni singolo minuto delle FTL e dei mille altri vari cavilli.
Tornando al discorso per quanto riguarda la Russia non ho mai avuto problemi per quanto riguarda i dirottamenti a differenza invece della Cina dove ad esempio non puoi assolutamente cambiare l'alternato in volo rispetto a quello dichiarato sul piano di volo. In alcuni casi non è possibile chiedere di evitare per meteo senza ALCUNA eccezione manco in mayday. I cinesi si che sono strani.
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Chiamati di STBY notturno
Stasera per esempio di sono di stby dalle 22 alle 06, ieri ho fatto un fdp di
1130 atterrando alle 2250
Oggi dovrei quindi dormire nel pomeriggio per essere pronto alle 22 a volare tutta la notte.
Ma il problema sorge se non ti impiegano per he' avendo dormito di pomeriggio, la notte difficilnente si riesce a dormire quindi il giorno dopo sei rinco.
Secondo punto importante la pressione Che puoi sentire sulle spalle da parte del management , e su questo oggi che e' giorno di condoglianze e non di polemiche mi fermo qui
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Sinceramente non conosco i loro limiti di impiego e tantomeno cosa hanno fatto nei giorni precedenti all'incidente.
Tuttavia (se è vero quello che è stato scritto sul secondo articolo che ho postato) davanti vi erano 2 Comandanti....se così fosse anche questo è un elemento che merita attenzione....
Tuttavia (se è vero quello che è stato scritto sul secondo articolo che ho postato) davanti vi erano 2 Comandanti....se così fosse anche questo è un elemento che merita attenzione....