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r0zvram 2nd January 2020 18:50


Originally Posted by pilot_a (Post 10651863)
Has anyone got dates for the sim screening? I passed the Mollymawk in December but haven’t heard anything.

I'am expecting a simdate anytime soon.

pilotbekesi 3rd January 2020 07:07

Good luck on the sim guys. Im doing mollymawk resit on the 14th

OldDreamer 5th January 2020 13:56

How long do we have for each test subject? For those who already sat the exams, do you feel the time given is enough?



And are you allowed to take notes during the aptitude tests? Specially the time sharing one?

ljop 5th January 2020 18:32


Originally Posted by pilotbekesi (Post 10652583)
Good luck on the sim guys. Im doing mollymawk resit on the 14th

Good luck to you too ! Let us know the outcome

ljop 5th January 2020 18:36


Originally Posted by OldDreamer (Post 10654450)
How long do we have for each test subject? For those who already sat the exams, do you feel the time given is enough?



And are you allowed to take notes during the aptitude tests? Specially the time sharing one?

You need to check the times of each test in Mollymawk instructions. But sure, if you practice enough, time is more than ok.
Yes, you are allowed to take notes during any test. You will have paper and pen. Calculator are not allowed.

OldDreamer 6th January 2020 11:20

Guys,

I am really desperate here. Are there any tricks for the time sharing test? Specially for the number sequence, it's bloody difficult. I have seen some videos online and the person hears the firs number and already knows what to insert? In the real test are the sequences always the same? I really didn't want to memorise them but it sounds impossible to achieve the 3800 points alleged as the cutting line without memorising it. Every time I take a few seconds to take a note of the sequence numbers I let the instruments go red then I give a glance to the paper to solve the sequence and there goes another few seconds on the instrument. I am really sad as I have done about 10 tests and I can't go over 2700. In the Mollymawk website they say that after 5 attempts you really are not getting any better from that point...

ljop 6th January 2020 11:33


Originally Posted by OldDreamer (Post 10655055)
Guys,

I am really desperate here. Are there any tricks for the time sharing test? Specially for the number sequence, it's bloody difficult. I have seen some videos online and the person hears the firs number and already knows what to insert? In the real test are the sequences always the same? I really didn't want to memorise them but it sounds impossible to achieve the 3800 points alleged as the cutting line without memorising it. Every time I take a few seconds to take a note of the sequence numbers I let the instruments go red then I give a glance to the paper to solve the sequence and there goes another few seconds on the instrument. I am really sad as I have done about 10 tests and I can't go over 2700. In the Mollymawk website they say that after 5 attempts you really are not getting any better from that point...

Hey man,

So, I didn't want to say anything when you talk about taking notes, because each person has it ways to do it, but the thing is you can't take notes because you will loose time. You are supouse to relied in your acoustical memory (read Mollymawk instructions). Is not about memorize...sure if you practice so many times, eventually you will know the answers, but is not about that...is about to trust your acoustical memory. You need to pay atention to the acoustical instruction, reason why navigation and the instrument shouldn't consume (or consume very few) resources of your brain.
Think about this as in your IFR training..... if you are using your brain for flying the basic stuff (fly the airplane straight) you can't calculate any radial interception instructions.... flying the aircraft straight is something you are able to do without thinking...then you can work the IFR instructions and readback.
Navigate and click on instruments shouldn't take to much of your resources, because you will need them to answer the acoustical instrucctions. You need to complete at leaste 100 acoustical task with very few mistakes to be on the numbers requires. If you are doing less than 100, then you are loosing time (as for instance taking notes).

Hope it helps.
Best regards

Mlambin 6th January 2020 21:00


Originally Posted by ljop (Post 10655063)
Hey man,

So, I didn't want to say anything when you talk about taking notes, because each person has it ways to do it, but the thing is you can't take notes because you will loose time. You are supouse to relied in your acoustical memory (read Mollymawk instructions). Is not about memorize...sure if you practice so many times, eventually you will know the answers, but is not about that...is about to trust your acoustical memory. You need to pay atention to the acoustical instruction, reason why navigation and the instrument shouldn't consume (or consume very few) resources of your brain.
Think about this as in your IFR training..... if you are using your brain for flying the basic stuff (fly the airplane straight) you can't calculate any radial interception instructions.... flying the aircraft straight is something you are able to do without thinking...then you can work the IFR instructions and readback.
Navigate and click on instruments shouldn't take to much of your resources, because you will need them to answer the acoustical instrucctions. You need to complete at leaste 100 acoustical task with very few mistakes to be on the numbers requires. If you are doing less than 100, then you are loosing time (as for instance taking notes).

Hope it helps.
Best regards

Well said !

I truly believe that if you need to take note you will never succeed the Mollymawk. I might be wrong and would be pleased to be proved wrong. I was scoring up to 5000 points during training and from the very first test I never thought about using anything else than my memory.

ljop 6th January 2020 21:23


Originally Posted by Mlambin (Post 10655457)
Well said !

I truly believe that if you need to take note you will never succeed the Mollymawk. I might be wrong and would be pleased to be proved wrong. I was scoring up to 5000 points during training and from the very first test I never thought about using anything else than my memory.

Hey man, are you still waiting for your TR to begin? I hope you're not!

OldDreamer 6th January 2020 21:24


Originally Posted by Mlambin (Post 10655457)
Well said !

I truly believe that if you need to take note you will never succeed the Mollymawk. I might be wrong and would be pleased to be proved wrong. I was scoring up to 5000 points during training and from the very first test I never thought about using anything else than my memory.

Wow 5000 points, that’s amazing. Sometimes I honestly think I’m not smart enough for this thing :(. Anyways I followed your advise and pushed myself to do it withouT notes and indeed my score is improving and I have just reached 3600 although I can’t avoid to think that part of this success is because I’m memorising the sequences involuntarily and I’m afraid that in the real exam it won’t be the same numbers. I’m doin feirou well on the Maze game and struggling a bit with the working memory, but my performance in all is improving, and I can definitely say that the statement in the web site, that says after 5 attempts you are unlikely to improve, to be quite incorrect.

jacke_95 7th January 2020 10:45

Sim
 
Hello Guy!

I am also waiting for the sim, passed the molly December 19th. Anyone received any invitations yet that had it around the same period?

Best regards,

jacke_95 7th January 2020 17:22

Today I received email regarding the simulator, invitation for the screening on the 23rd of January. I Passed the Mollymawk on the 19th Of December. So check your inbox!

Best wishes!
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ljop 7th January 2020 18:56


Originally Posted by jacke_95 (Post 10656092)
Today I received email regarding the simulator, invitation for the screening on the 23rd of January. I Passed the Mollymawk on the 19th Of December. So check your inbox!

Best wishes!
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Hey Man! Thanks for sharing. I'm still waiting, altought I'm from the group of DEC 24. All the best for the SIM.

Regards

r0zvram 7th January 2020 21:18


Originally Posted by OldDreamer (Post 10655471)


Wow 5000 points, that’s amazing. Sometimes I honestly think I’m not smart enough for this thing :(. Anyways I followed your advise and pushed myself to do it withouT notes and indeed my score is improving and I have just reached 3600 although I can’t avoid to think that part of this success is because I’m memorising the sequences involuntarily and I’m afraid that in the real exam it won’t be the same numbers. I’m doin feirou well on the Maze game and struggling a bit with the working memory, but my performance in all is improving, and I can definitely say that the statement in the web site, that says after 5 attempts you are unlikely to improve, to be quite incorrect.

The real exam is different from the one you train at home. Expect different numbers, other accents and numbers with 5 digits.

vatir 7th January 2020 21:55

Does anyone have any tips for "Working Memory" section?

Mlambin 8th January 2020 08:43


Originally Posted by ljop (Post 10655470)
Hey man, are you still waiting for your TR to begin? I hope you're not!

Hopefully not, almost a year employed now.
Thanks for asking !

ljop 8th January 2020 09:39


Originally Posted by Mlambin (Post 10656676)
Hopefully not, almost a year employed now.
Thanks for asking !

Awesome man, congrats! all the best

jacke_95 8th January 2020 09:52

Hello Guys!

Is there anyone who knows a good place for some B737NG Sim Prep?
Any help is appreciated!

Best Regards!

Amidoo 8th January 2020 14:10


Originally Posted by jacke_95 (Post 10656751)
Hello Guys!

Is there anyone who knows a good place for some B737NG Sim Prep?
Any help is appreciated!

Best Regards!

I would start with your MCC provider if it was on the 737. I personnally booked a session with the cheapest and closest 737 sim I could find. You can even practice on your computer if you're well equiped. The actual sim is a full motion and easier to fly than most sim I've been in.

I wouldn't sweat it though, assesement is quite easy and straight forward, exactly as in the brief minus scenario 3, Captain and FO were really nice.

Good luck !

NewUsername 8th January 2020 18:05


Originally Posted by inabw (Post 10635048)
I did the english test at the beginning of November but then no answers or feedback yet.
I don't understand if they provide it only in positive case or also in negative case.

Same here. Passed the English test at the end of November and still no reply. Not sure if my test even passed through as there were no Exit button at the end of the test, had to use a key combination on a keyboard to close it.


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