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WelshFlyer 20th Mar 2003 22:41

Jobs for non ATPL Pilots
 
I was wondering, are there any jobs that don't need an ATPL? as I don't wand a "normal" aviation job, ie, hauling passengers or becomeing a fighter pilot. I want a more "Exciteing" job in aviation.

Dose anyone else fly for a job on a normal CPL, or SCPL? If so what do you do?

IcarusGR 20th Mar 2003 23:19

maybe a local town instructor, thats basically it. ;)

OAT Letdown 21st Mar 2003 04:44

Why not become a spelling teacher? ;)

FlyingForFun 21st Mar 2003 07:53

Flying instructor. Sight-seeing tours. Crop spraying. Banner towing. Aerial photography. Pipeline inspection. Basically, anything you can think of which must be done visually.

The only one of these which is common in the UK is instructing, so you'll probably be looking at going abroad. Don't think it's going to be easy, and it won't pay particularly well either - but if that's your dream, then go for it - and the best of luck to you! :)

FFF
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Euroatlantic 21st Mar 2003 11:23

Head for Canada and do some bush flying on floats. ;)

WelshFlyer 21st Mar 2003 13:17

Maybe I will go abroad, the thing that I like in my flying is variaty:) Never two days the same. And although you get this to a limited extent in private aviation, making a living doing it would be an added bonus.

Sorry for all the typos in my last post
:mad:

julf 22nd Mar 2003 10:08

Non ATPL Jobs
 
I thought I would add a few points regarding air charter flying . To fly single pilot IFR ( most air charter/taxi companies are ) you need 700hrs that's the law . My company has a minimum of 1000hrs plus 150hrs multi , this is almost certainly an insurance requirement . The flying is varied and sometimes exciting , especially when a donkeys dies at night in IMC with a plane load of passengers as happened to me a couple of years ago . You get to go to loads of interesting airports where you spend lots of hours hanging around for your passengers and the chances are , in France , you will be the only person there . It can be a lonely existance .
Flying piston twins you will get plenty of opportunities to get the adrenalin flowing usually during the English winter . I could talk for hours as can all charter pilots about weather related exploits . Finally I would want to do any other job , why ? The pay ain't brilliant but for what is essentially a part time job ( I fly maybe 3 days a week ) it's not bad . After 2 years of flying on the piston fleet I have just moved onto turboprops which is a whole new ball game . I hope some of this has been of use to you air charter/taxi flying is not for the faint hearted or the inexperienced pilot but it can be good fun . Good luck.

witchdoctor 24th Mar 2003 13:30

I'm just about to start work as company pilot (sounds rather grand after student pilot) with an aerial photography business. Lots of chugging about at lowish altitudes (all legal - honest) in steep turns, with the work taking us all over the UK and Eire.

Minimum requirement was advertised as CPL/IR, but the boss isn't too worried about the IR as the work is all VFR (needs good light for the photos you see - artists!). Happy to take me on with 200hrs ish. No additional ratings or expense required, just turn up, go flying and pick up pay packet every month.

I have heard a similar company in the SE is currently missing a pilot who left for Cathay Pacific, but don't know the name I'm afraid.

zakpeegoodus 31st Mar 2003 06:52

So it is possible to work in the U.K without a JAR license??????
I have a British Passport but work for a small company in Australia.
( Hey Euroatlantic, you're right - bush float flying in Canada is brilliant! Did that last summer... )
I would love to work in the U.K but cannot afford to do the atpl there.
Anyone know what is involved in converting aussie CPL to a british CPL and who should I contact for work ( non atpl stuff ) Names and addresses please!
[email protected]

redsnail 31st Mar 2003 19:43

Zak...
Nope. JAR = ppl/cpl/atpl.
You'll need at least one of them to fly here. Just about no one does CPL theory so every one does ATPL theory. It also gets the pesky IR theory out of the way as well.
It costs the same to convert to a CPL/IR as it does to an ATPL.
Sorry mate, no money saved.


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