My stage 2 assessment was just an interview (motivation, examples of some basic skills they require from you) They send you a pretty detailed file on what to expect, but there was no group exercise for me (integrated atpl)

ok brilliant, should get that soon then... are you starting/started training with them?

I should start in November but I'm still sorting some things out (loan :D )

Yeah I hope it all goes well. Good luck to you too for the test!

Full on suit, everyone has one and I'm not sure but I THINK they actually ask a business attire.

Thought so I'll leave the nike tracksuit at home then :)

Heya guys got my phase 2 in November! Can anyone tell me if the maths and physics is multiple choice? Or do you write the answer into a box and submit?

Thank you

It's multiple choice and your allowed a calculator ...practice lots of speed distance time questions

I've just passed stage 2 and indeed there are NO calculators. It is all multi-choice for maths and physics. Don't worry, though, you don't have to deal with any nasties such as sin, cos & tan. Just multiplication/division (which you have a pen and paper for).

I don't suppose you could give an example of the questions which come up? If you can remember :) Thanks

I just did my Stage 2 and so I can give those in need some feedback as well.
The maths are quite easy, you have 30min and 20 questions, becoming progressively more difficult and I suggest to start with the difficult ones because they take longer to solve, not because they are too difficult but because without a calculator you have to do all the maths step by step, and they are worth way more, also the easy and medium ones are really basic. The questions are 95% about time and distance and 2 or 3 about bearings and trigonometry.

The last math problem I remember to be like this: A plane flies 1970 miles from point A to point B, at an average speed of 460mph. The fuel rate is 30 lbs/min. In Kg how much fuel is used during the flight?

The physics are even easier I think, I finished in less than 20min. Practice Newton's equations of motion, levers and weight distribution, basic circuitry, adding resistors in parallel, springs in parallel too, Boyle's law for the last one (most difficult). They involve straight forward calculations, no need to deduct or anything.

The last one as I remember is: A volume of gas starts at a pressure of 30atm and a temperature of 59ºC. If the pressure is increased by 2atm and the volume of the gas remains constant, what is the new temperature? Remember that in this formula you have to use the temperature in kelvin and then in the end convert it to Celsius.

The cognitive part is composed of 38 exercises and it's exactly like it says in the document they send you to prepare for the test. It's easy, don't have to practice much but if you want, I bought the Skytest software and it was very close to what it came out in the exam.

The Red Dot test is a bit tricky and I didn't practice this one but you have a couple seconds before the test to try it out and get used to the joystick. You pull towards you for the ball to go up and push forward for it to go down. You have to twist it right and left for it to go sideways. You have to keep the ball centred for 4 min, you need to focus a bit one this one.

The FAST exercise was more challenging than I expected because I was practicing the one on Skytest which is not complete, it doesn't test all the aspects like in the test. You will be instructed before it starts you will have 2 attempts for this one. You have to manage a lot of things in a short period of time and it's quite hard to do it all so you have to divide you attention. You have to fly the crash course, answer questions (even though basic they are a lot and come at the same time as the ATC is telling you stuff), you have to remember what the cockpit looks like, how many different voices did you hear, how many beeps, how many planes you saw, info about the waypoints, etc.

Finally, the Fixed Wing is the one I think I failed, wasn't so difficult but I cut corners by distraction. You are given a certain route to fly with specific values for speed, altitude and heading and you have to go through all the waypoints.

You can take as many breaks as you want between tests and as long as you want them to be so that's cool, helps you relax.
Hope this can be useful.

Hello everyone, does anyone know after how long the the stage 2 results come out?
Thanks

DIaero;

I heard you’re allowed one line calculators, is that correct? Or you’re not allowed anything at all?
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Results are out usually after 2-3 weeks.
No calculators are allowed in the maths or physics tests. They did allow it at the start of the year however they changed the rules back in April this year (confirmed by someone who works at CAE at PCL)
Good luck!

Do you know if they still provide the maths and physics formulas?

Hello,

Is it realistic this type of questions "A plane flies 1970 miles from point A to point B, at an average speed of 460mph. The fuel rate is 30 lbs/min. In Kg how much fuel is used during the flight?" because in my opinion, this one is quite difficult to solve without a calculator.

Yeah most of them are provided for you. The ones that aren't are from GCSE Physics, and not too hard to remember.

Yeah this sort of question is asked, however with easier numbers. E.g aircraft flies 900 miles at 300 mph. Fuel 30lbs/min.

Can just work it out as 3 hours = 180 mins. 180*30 = (can do it 18x3 = 54 * 100 = 5400) and given that roughly 1lb = 0.5kg, 5400/2 = 2700Kg.

These types of question are all multiple choice, so even doing some rounding in the calculation will point to the correct answer. As I remember, the wrong answers were fairly obvious...

Can anyone elaborate on what to expect in the cognitive part of the assessment? Do they test maths and physics again in this as well?

Thank you so much for the answer LenceHudson.

How many questions will involve calculation about Fuel, Distance, Speed or Time?

Is It true that in physics test formulae are provided?

Are there questions with basic math as percentage, equations, division or multiplications?

I just did my stage 2. I can say that the vast majority of the maths questions were S-D-T, so make sure you brush up on them.

Physics and maths formulas are provided.

I didn't get any questions as basic as that, but they did involve multiplication and division to work out. I didn't get any on percentages.

I will warn you that the FAST test is difficult, so make sure you give your full focus and attention when doing that.

Good luck!

Hello LeoBruce,

What software did you use for the preparation?

Good old BBC Bitesize for maths and physics!

I also used SkyTest for the FAST, but I will say that the CAE FAST is much more difficult than the SkyTest one.

Is there only Fast in SkyTest? C'mon It costs 80 euro!

Where did you train for Co-ordination and Control, Cognitive and Fixed Wing?

Do you know the results of the assessment?

S-D-T questions were very much doable without calculator. Just make sure you know how to multiply and divide efficiently.

Yes, business attire is recommended. We all wore suits.

No worries!

I'm not too sure, they said a week maximum, but usually can be the next day. Today is the next day... and i've been checking my emails constantly! Still nothing yet!

Best of luck!

You made the assessment during the morning or during the afternoon ?

I did in the morning, but no answer yet

Hi Everyone
I might do the stage 2 during January 2020,so I've read and seen many thing about ADAPT test, and I think that I understood the majority of the test...but I didn't understand in what consist the cognitive test .I just know that it is going to be a reasoning test, however could someone say me what is it in particular?
thank u so much!