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uberfly 18th Apr 2023 08:49


Originally Posted by EC-KIY (Post 11419977)
Hey guys, simple question. If you could decide between SmartLynx, Avion Express, or any other ACMI, which one would you choose and why?

They are more or less same in terms of variety of flying, organisation and bases. Of course Smartlynx and Avion being under large holding Avia Solution Group is advantage for them to bring some business in winter season while other smaller ACMI struggles more getting projects in winter time. For the moment with the latest revision best money is offered by Avion Express, Heston is following them while Smartlynx pay %40 less of Avion Express and %30 less of Heston (approximate numbers for FOs more than 500 hours on type). If you want to earn more or less acceptable fee while having fair approach from company I would recommend Heston Airlines. While both Avion express and Smartlynx treat their Pilots like piece of **** (sorry for my language). Of course there are plenty of more ACMI companies nowadays popping up like a mushrooms such as Electra Airways, Nordica, Fly2Sky and so on however not much information about them. For sure they are not paying great neither treating their pilots well. They are relying on cheap labor force for making profit like any other ACMI.

All those companies in my opinion very good for beginners and adventure seekers if we disregard what I wrote in previous paragraph.

MAV2023 12th Jul 2023 14:57

Hey guys,
I´m thinking of enrolling in an A320 TR course at Smartlinx, but i would like to know your overall experience with them? How was it during the course and how was it after finished it? I would appreciate some recent information, negative or positive.
Was it difficult to accumulate some hours even in winter?

Thanks in advance

uberfly 15th Jul 2023 08:35


Originally Posted by MAV2023 (Post 11466170)
Hey guys,
I´m thinking of enrolling in an A320 TR course at Smartlinx, but i would like to know your overall experience with them? How was it during the course and how was it after finished it? I would appreciate some recent information, negative or positive.
Was it difficult to accumulate some hours even in winter?

Thanks in advance

If you join them after TR, which is quite likely considering turnover rates in company, you will make max around 600 hours a year. Winter is low, sometimes 0 hours flying in some months sometimes more. Depends on the project and how lucky you get chosen by crew planning department.

polishair 22nd Jul 2023 22:09

any idea how long approx it takes for them to get back with interview dates after initial application?

Kani25 26th Jul 2023 21:54

About 1 month

misteredin2 2nd Aug 2023 09:00

I sent my application at the end of April this year and they invited me for the online pre assessment a couple weeks later, in mid May. Had the online interview first week of June and they contacted me one week later with a positive result. My TR course is scheduled to start in late fall/winter this year.

misteredin2 2nd Aug 2023 09:10


Originally Posted by uberfly (Post 11386677)
You pay your type rating, It is 35K Euros. You pay in from your pocket. If you leave within 3 years you need to pay certain amount of penalty which I do not know exact number but it should be between 7 to 10 K. After SLX might offer your service agreement (most likely they will) which you are employed by agencies in either Dubai, Malta or Netherlands. During line training you got paid 50 euro each day which means you can make up to 1500 Euros per month before income tax and social security contributions (make sure there is no guaranteed work so you can be spending half of the month at home while you are only 10 days on duty which will make you only 500 euros). Line training takes approximately 2-3 months if you are lucky. Accommodation is paid when you are on duty, crew meals provided (only on active flying day) and ticket from home to home is provided once a month.

After line check and up to 500 hours from line check you got paid 80 Euros a day which you can make maximum 2400 euro a month before income tax and social security contributions. You may end up earning 0 Euros. Remember no guaranteed fee until you pass 500 hours after line check. So we are talking about absolutely maximum in case all goes well. And you can count 1-1,5 year to reach 500 hours limit in the company.

As per their email:


Currently we offer contracts with pay per duty day + additional BLH compensation (15-20 EUR/BLH) and sector fee (15-20 EUR).



Please see information below:

0-100 BLH – 80 EUR per Flight Duty Period

101-500 BLH – 130 EUR per Flight Duty Period

501-1500 BLH – 150 EUR per Flight Duty Period

1500- BLH – 170 EUR per Flight Duty Period

uberfly 2nd Aug 2023 15:03


Originally Posted by misteredin2 (Post 11477967)
As per their email:


Currently we offer contracts with pay per duty day + additional BLH compensation (15-20 EUR/BLH) and sector fee (15-20 EUR).



Please see information below:

0-100 BLH – 80 EUR per Flight Duty Period

101-500 BLH – 130 EUR per Flight Duty Period

501-1500 BLH – 150 EUR per Flight Duty Period

1500- BLH – 170 EUR per Flight Duty Period

Block hour compensation starts only from +80 hours in summer and +30 in winter period so don't take it granted. You will hardly make +80 hours in 20-10 rotation in summer time. I am not aware of any sector fee payment, if there is any it is for sure after certain sector such us +30 sectors or so. Also to my knowledge there is only 3 scales between 0-500 which pays 100 euro per duty day. For sure different pay term during line training for cadets.

I forgot to mentioned numbers you wrote only for summer season which consist 7 months. Remaining 5 months you received reduced fees.

Of course they might have few adjustment to attract more people since they are lack of crew.

MAV2023 3rd Aug 2023 15:14


Originally Posted by misteredin2 (Post 11477963)
I sent my application at the end of April this year and they invited me for the online pre assessment a couple weeks later, in mid May. Had the online interview first week of June and they contacted me one week later with a positive result. My TR course is scheduled to start in late fall/winter this year.

Hi Misteredin2,
What follows once you finish the course? Do you know how long it takes OCC and Line Training?

elko 3rd Aug 2023 19:20


Originally Posted by misteredin2 (Post 11477963)
I sent my application at the end of April this year and they invited me for the online pre assessment a couple weeks later, in mid May. Had the online interview first week of June and they contacted me one week later with a positive result. My TR course is scheduled to start in late fall/winter this year.

Congratulations on the positive result!

Could you give some details on how the assessment went? Like, how was the online pre assessment and the online interview, what type of questions and tests they asked on each one?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Kani25 4th Aug 2023 19:25

Has someone the a320 cbt ?

polishair 31st Aug 2023 00:00


Originally Posted by polishair (Post 11472117)
any idea how long approx it takes for them to get back with interview dates after initial application?

its been a bit over than a month now but no reply. Anyone else had the same experience?

Kani25 31st Aug 2023 07:15


Originally Posted by polishair (Post 11494482)
its been a bit over than a month now but no reply. Anyone else had the same experience?

Send them An e-mail, they will inform you asap

Bica 6th Sep 2023 01:36

SmartLynx
 
I got this from the broker as I have more than 1500hrs on type:

Scale 3 would be applicable for you.
In summer, you can expect to receive 170*30 monthly fee, plus 55 EUR per BLH which exceeds 80 BLH per month & in winter 135*30, plus 20 EUR BLH fee which exceeds 30 BLH per month, and 90 EUR per BLH which exceeds 80 BLH per month. Please note duty allowance will be applicable after completion of trainings.”

Basically is what we can find on Wikipedia if you Google it!

What I understand is for the ones with no hours on type and until reaching 500hrs the payment is poor :/

MAV2023 6th Sep 2023 19:25

Hi
I'm exploring various possibilities and would appreciate gaining insight into the conditions that SLX has to offer and the operational aspects following the completion of the Type Rating.
After completing the Type Rating and receiving a job offer, what is the estimated duration for completing the Line Training? Is there any compensation during this period, including accommodation and meals, or is it only provided on the days when you are actively flying?
How long does it typically take to reach the initial 100 flight hours? Did you have any difficulty flying in the winter? How many sectors are expected to be completed per month? Are only the sectors exceeding 34 paid?
Lastly, is the duty fee payable for a maximum of 20 days or 30 days? I don´t understand, cause some multiply by 20 and others by 30. Do you have any idea about the tax and social contributions discount rate?

I apologize for the abundance of questions, but I truly value any assistance you can offer.

uberfly 7th Sep 2023 08:36


Originally Posted by Bica (Post 11497883)
I got this from the broker as I have more than 1500hrs on type:

Scale 3 would be applicable for you.
In summer, you can expect to receive 170*30 monthly fee, plus 55 EUR per BLH which exceeds 80 BLH per month & in winter 135*30, plus 20 EUR BLH fee which exceeds 30 BLH per month, and 90 EUR per BLH which exceeds 80 BLH per month. Please note duty allowance will be applicable after completion of trainings.”

Basically is what we can find on Wikipedia if you Google it!

What I understand is for the ones with no hours on type and until reaching 500hrs the payment is poor :/


Few correction as per my knowledge. With what you say maximum yearly basic income 47,850 Euros (Gross) for highest scale of FO. 7 months pay from 170 Euro and 3 months pay from 135 Euros is guaranteed. If it has not changed company keep rights to send you unpaid leave for 60 days during winter season, where you will most likely get it during downturn. You will hardly ever exceed 80 block hours in summer time. 20-10 rotation. Winter time you will hardly exceed 20-30 hours unless you are send to operate to specific project for a period of 3-4 weeks. Only 2 ways to go above mention amount is to either sell your days off (i think 200 euros for each day sold) during summer from 10 days off period or to volunteer to go to Nigeria during winter time.

Judgement about if they pay is good or bad is up to you, dont forget it is gross amounts, it is your choice to pay the taxes at your home residence or not.

MAV2023 7th Sep 2023 11:54

I would like if someone could clarify the following doubt for me:
If the contract specifically states "Duty allowance paid per duty day," how do you calculate this values based on a 30-day month rather than the actual 20 days we will be flying?

TheEdge 7th Sep 2023 12:22

Guys, smartlynx is the cancer of aviation.

Akfinisher 8th Sep 2023 09:20

Hi. Do you still working there? I just want to ask about working conditions.

Foro 10th Oct 2023 23:46

Hi guys I’m thinking to apply in SmartLynx to do the type on A320 then after 500h move into another company. I have a few friends inside it but not everybody is talking good about it. Do you have a contract to publish here to be more conscious what I’m about to join? If is not worth I’m moving into rayan. Yes same conditions but at least I can work.
thanks


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