Hi Guys

What do you think, how many candidates are attending to one assessment day?
50? 70? or even more?

Around 20, they will let some go during lunchtime and afternoon is interviews. Exactly as per the email.

Hi guys,
I'm pretty new to all of this but I also have an interview on 1st Feb and if anyone could give me any quick tips and hints on the most recent selection process that would be amazing!
Thanks a lot x

Has anyone received a job offer yet or are they waiting to finish all their assessment days first?

Hi Guys, I was there last week, some of them like me got a simulator session schedule this week.
So no offer but still in the loop

But others got the message: What a successful day for you, unfortunately too many applicants, not enough time, we will call you for an interview and simulator the same day :hmm:
Don't wait for us to call in the next day, we will do it at the end of the assessment process => 3-4 weeks.

Over 24 people 16 got an interview the same day (not know the number of the simulator) I was told that 8 people got the message successful but no time.
There was no message like You did not make it, this is strange, really strange don't you think guy?
310 people => for fewer than 100 positions, there is gonna be people out

I think this message : "What a successful day for you, unfortunately too many applicants, not enough time, we will call you for an interview and simulator the same day.
Don't wait for us to call in the next day, we will do it at the end of the assessment process"

Means: sorry guy, do not kill yourself out of the assessment but we do not choose you. Why the hell are they not talking directly ? They ask people to be honest and they are not. ooops they are asking people to be themselves...

I am not sure my friend, I was also left confused after my assessment, because we were told one thing and the other happened. However I am preparing for the sim and hopefully the turnaround won't be that long.

CLIJI

I wouldn't resort to paranoia, they'll say what they plan to do, they have no issue in sending out rejection emails

Hi It has never come into your minds that they want to secure a big waiting list ?

So please be honest, if you're in that case, tell me if they call you. I know 4 people who never got called never again

Hi Guys!

In my opinion, unless you were terrible at the group exercises, they will want you to make interview and sim, and like this secure a waiting list. They will hire 100, but need at least the double, from what I heard (looks like IAG has a foot on the brake pedal). I had the assessment this week, only one person didn't have the interview in the afternoon, and nobody had the sim, looks like there having scheduling issues.
Like Anunaki, I will prepare for the sim, and see what happens in the coming days/weeks.
Cheers!

CLIJI

They said they will call within 2 to 3 weeks, maybe more. Isn't it a bit early to mention "never again"?

Hi Guys and Gals,

What is your opinion about looking over the ATPL question banks for the interview?

Are there any multiple choice type tests similar to the ATPL theory exams?

I know we all need to have a good grasp of POF and be able to talk about our previous types/ac and more generic technical questions.

But I am wondering about Air Law and Ops questions? I've been studying EU-OPS but there really is so much in there. I've been focusing on the usual, fuel policy, documents required for flight, alternate requirements, O2 requirements, airspace etc...

Does anyone else expect or have they experienced these types of questions in the interview yet?

Thanks

Oh sorry, I speak about people who have done interview 1 year ago for 3 of them and 6 months ago for 1 of them. So not an isolated behaviour.

Alright, my bad! Then I can't tell. They are pretty responsive on the email, so I guess asking them the status after such a long time may be a good idea. But I'm pretty sure they did.
Anyway we don't have other choice than "wait and see".

Best of luck!

I also did the assessment, they have lots to choose from. They are watching you and secretive on who they want - if they see you and like you -

If they like you and want to interview you they will call you and progress you telling you in private. I was asked for interview in private and many were told possible call back later approx. 8 were interviewed on the day.

strange operation on how they do select but an enjoyable day out.

Be yourself ......

They cannot interview all or give sim checks to all. So do not believe that everyone will get interviewed on the day Interview's for 6- 8 people on the day and some were invited approx. 3 for simulator the next day and others invited later. Not sure if those promised a interview at a later date has happened or not.

All the best

I do not meant to be negative. Just point out the fact, after the day & simu, anybody think they are chosen and be in a cockpit... but Aer Lingus do not call them back. just be aware of that during the long weeks you wait

I work in a private company, when I do interview, I think this is important to inform people of the following steps of the candidates, in real. They don't. Just be aware that's it

Best luck to you

I wasn't aware of this, I was under the impression that they have exhausted the "holding pool" and those placed in it received offers of employment. If that's the case, it would be disheartening to have spent hours of preparation and study, plus the herculean financial stretch some of us did in order to make it there.
However, I am pragmatic and understand that it is the name of the game, they owe us nothing, the industry owe us nothing, it is the choice we made. Keep your chin up, I believe that we will hear this time sooner or later. For me it has been 3 weeks already.

Judging by rosters published here...
Assessments started on Jan 22nd - they end Friday 9th.
They can't interview everyone but I flew recently with a guy that got called back for interview 3 months later. then hold pool then offer 6 months later. He is chuffed and through probation already.
This is the biggest intake on record. not everyone will make it this time but they won't know who is yes or no until after they see everyone by next week.
Don't get worked up folks -if you did really obviously poorly they still won't tell you on the day in front of everyone surely that makes sense. Thats kinder.

Hopefully you'll get a call back. I don't envy you folks it's tough but worth it.
They are also using new assessors too so good luck.

I will be there next week. Has anybody a hint for me on what they focus most during the tech interview? POF or FLPN PERF, what’s your most suggested topic to go over again?

Hi, i have my Interview on 6th too.
Do you know any other candidates?
How are you doing with preperation?

Schöne Grüße

I try to go over all basic stuff like ILS minimums, POF, basic systeme knowledge (APU, pressure in hydr sys etc...). Basically all the general stuff.

EU Ops would be a good Idea. And I suggest to have a closer look to ererything which can be associated with jet acft. Swept wings, Mkrit and stuff like that. Also Performance wise. Time for a glass of wine and to dig my nose in my notes which I made 5! years ago... Unbelievable how fast you can forget things you once have learned with passion. But the good thing is this knowledge is relatively easy to re-activate. Especially with a second glass of wine. And a good old book from Oxford Aviation.... and a 2nd book... and a 3rd one... 🙄 Oh my god... Aviation is pure fun😳
Good luck to all!

Hi Guys,

Are you sure about technical interview ??? I was told that there will be only HR type interview (and maybe on or two question on the Company, aircraft) if you're not TR ?

Thanks for your return

Unfortunately I have not heard anything about questions for non tr candidates. I can imagine that there could be some common tech questions not airbus related like systems we cannot know without tr...

What do you think about?

Hi guys,

anybody experienced already skype interview with Aer Lingus ? I'm expecting one on Feb 6th 2018...

i'm rated A320 with hours on type

thanks

FoxEcho

Unfortunately I have not heard anything about questions for non tr candidates. I can imagine that there could be some common tech questions not airbus related like systems we cannot know without tr...

What do you think about?

There definitely will be tech questions, I am not type rated and had a couple tricky ones and even a A320 specific question. But all the questions were on relevant systems, stuff you should know more or less. AGK would be worth going over I would say!

Pay scale
 

Anybody have the pay scale or know how many years to top Captain pay scale?

Can you bid for stby/reserve?

22 pt pay scale, no bidding for STBY

I'm aware of 2 people who have invites to sim this week, they got them just hours after their assessment last week. I'm still waiting, did the assessment, interviews, I thought I did well, but to be honest I think so did everyone. Everybody I talked to was smart, prepared and pleasant, everyone was shining through the group exercises so I really think it's a lottery at this stage..

What anonymous_hopeful said - good luck all!

Hi Guys,

The question is : do people get positive reply ?
From Aer Lingus there is no reply when it's negative

This depends, sometimes they have and at other times they haven't - even with their cadetship it was the same.

There is a reluctance to send 'no' emails out, this seems to be because they rarely have a definitive 'no' on all people, there are times when they have actually sent out negative emails and then called the person back without them even reapplying. They seem to like to keep all their options open and for this reason don't like sending hard negative emails ... remember they can only take a certain number at a certain time, they may still really like some people and want them as an option in future.

This is what I have been told directly from those in the know and also from my own personal experience.

Ok, so why hasn't they gave an answer to my friends in august, and launch recruitment session in october... ? I guess there is plenty of guy waiting an answer from them.

I love your speech, this is a dreaming and loving one... sorry I buy it at 40% only

I think you've made your point. Good luck to you and everyone still in the process, let's hope for the best!

It is rather ironic, that a company whose last item in the company values list is "Honesty", can't be honest enough about your performance. I'd argue that after spending a considerable amount of time and money to attend, the least they could do is either let us go or give us a positive answer. At least explain what it is the hold up.
I have a family to feed and need to make a decision ASAP as to what am I going to do, accept a job outside aviation that pays well, in which I have to commit a minimum 6 months or hold on until I get an answer.
I understand your frustration completely, we can all rant here but it will all go back to something I have said before, industry and the airline owe us nothing, and it's pilots fault for selling themselves down the river for years too cheaply. I argued with many guys here over several things, it is good to disagree. I made it to the final and they didn't but now I think it was a blessing in disguise for them, as they didn't have to break the bank at least.
You only "buy at 40%"? good, that's how it should be, it means you're not naive and will questions things.
If your friends never got a response then they either are not telling you the full story or there are flaws with AL processes. We all heard that some guys were hired a few years ago, then couple of weeks after some agency advertised for those jobs and none of the original candidates were taken in. They aren't perfect or totally honest so yes, be sceptical. They owe us nothing but they were the ones who made the promise of a transparent and swift process, you have the right to question then. But also, don't lose your sleep over it, I made peace already and am not frantically checking my phone or emails. That said, never applying to them again as I know its a waste of time and money.

An organisation can appear to want to do the right thing - sadly many working in those organisations are not fully equipped to run it with their own values. Their methods speak volumes about them as an organisation. Sadly those seeking for jobs have their hands tied and have to accept this treatment.

But one must think if they will fit into an organisation that does not live up to their own values.

pay peanuts you get monkeys

Aer Lingus is without a doubt the most shambolic recruitment process I have ever applied to. A really poor reflection of what seems like a great company once you get in.

After 15 years of experiences with human ressources in 6 Companies, I totally agree with you. According to what I have seen so far in AL

Good company once you are in?

.. if they manage their recruitment in this way...then just imagine how they manage their training and operations - let alone the treatment if you need support .

Apparently they said they would be in touch by the end of March to all. Over 360 pilots went through assessment centre I believe.
If you haven't got a call for Sim or interview by now surely you can read between the lines. You'll know for sure soon. Those scoring well are the priority those not will know by March end.
Move on folks...