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aloa326 17th Oct 2014 11:15

OhNoCB

I know what you mean, and i agree, but this is the raw reality.

Those days that all of us are looking for are gone...long gone in 90's.
A pilot was considered a pilot and not some sort of cash machine or simple robot.
At the exact moment we chosed to become a pilot, we agree unvoluntary with this system, so for the next 10 years we will not able to change the system!
:ugh:

OhNoCB 17th Oct 2014 14:54

I know where you are coming from. I used to hate coming to this website when I was trying because the doom and gloom was depressing, and I don't wish to be another doom monger. I appreciate that chances are sparse and luck plays a unfairly large part.

At the same time though, whilst everyone needs to recognise that you can't expect to be overwhelmed by job opportunities after you finish a lovely sponsored training scheme, it important not to completely sell yourself short. Yes it's likely that you will accept a job that isn't as good as what people were taking in the 90s, but at the same time - don't be a catalyst. This Volotea deal to me sounds truly awful, paying probably a thousands euros all in to be interviewed, then another nearly 30k on top of that all to be paid very little to fly (not very much) a type that is of course a jet, but is very unlikely to be a useful TYPE (not talking experience here) when it comes to seeking further opportunities.


At the exact moment we chosed to become a pilot, we agree unvoluntary with this system, so for the next 10 years we will not able to change the system!
The sad thing about this is that it's only conditionally true. If every looked at schemes like this (and plenty others) and said no that's rubbish I won't apply for it, then things would change. Unfortunately people are always willing to throw more money at this, get themselves further into debt (or their parents) just to 'get experience'.

gene88 17th Oct 2014 16:25

could be interesting listen someone who is actually inside and working as a pilot..

finalcheck 22nd Oct 2014 05:45

Did anybody already receive an assesessement invitation / follow-up email?

Cedarjet80 22nd Oct 2014 08:12

Do you know how does a second officer log the hours? And what are the exact duties of a second officer in V7? I guess these change from a company to another, right?

aloa326 22nd Oct 2014 08:33

They closed the application window last Thursday (17th), so usually, right now they are reviewing all the applications and after that call the selected people. I am assuming that, according the contract they proposed, the new pilots should be ready by March/April so the interview will be start soon.

i can't figure out how many pilots they need, but the interview process could last until january/february.

Happy to hear from someone already inside.


PS. few time ago, the first part of selection was held by CAE, now as i understood, all the selection will be done in headquarter in BCN, for this i even don't know if the old selection fee 460 euros has to be paid or not.......

finalcheck 22nd Oct 2014 08:59


Do you know how does a second officer log the hours? And what are the exact duties of a second officer in V7? I guess these change from a company to another, right?
No difference in work between s/o and f/o, just in seniority and pay...

aloa326 22nd Oct 2014 09:04

In my company is exactly like this, for logging hours no difference, obviously the salary is different.

INeedTheFull90 22nd Oct 2014 09:20

So €500 for an assessment? For a seasonal airline that is a very clever way of getting revenue in the lean winter months.

Also, if this company were to downsize or vanish, you're out of a job with a worthless rating. Yes the MEB3 may count the hours toward their requirements but if you are out of a job you're not flying, you're loosing currency and there's very few airlines flying the 717 for you to move to.

Airlines plan recruitment well in advance. Chances are jobs 6-12 months down the line are being recruited for. If the worst were to happen you're out of a job and before you've had a chance to apply your already 6-12 months without currency and the airlines don't like this.

Cedarjet80 25th Oct 2014 06:39

Any feedback from this week's exams? I knew that few people were called to sit theirs earlier this week.

aloa326 25th Oct 2014 08:02

Cedarjet out of curiosity, your experience?

mine more 600 hrs TT on E120 around 360.

Aleboni 29th Oct 2014 23:10

I haven't heard anything....i think that they re calling people Who know someone inside like alaways...i don t think there are many positions.

gene88 30th Oct 2014 17:14

still looking for someone who have attended the assesment....

aloa326 30th Oct 2014 17:45

few seats for tons of CV...you don't need a hint but a miracle to be called from Volotea.

fade to grey 1st Nov 2014 08:31

You'd have to be criminally insane to want this type rating and pay for it.

This company is just sheer rubbish. I was called a couple of years back for DEc , where you don't have to pay they take it out your salary, but you have to commit to three years of their summer, which is only about two months long...

Beyond last resort

AlphaK 1st Nov 2014 22:17

Hi guys,

I came up late, when I wanted to apply for the s/o program it was already closed!
Any news about volotea selection?
Does anyone know if they're going to open another application process soon?

Thanks.

P40Warhawk 2nd Nov 2014 17:17

Couldnt describe it better then that Fade.

Seriously. It is freakin ridiculous to jump in that SO position. It is seriously worse then slavery. You get paid ****. The fact that they want like 450 eu for showing up to assessment. WTF. Now that is easy money. I really disrespect these kind of companies.

As I told before. I also had the invitation to come to assessment in 2013. I said NO when I heard what they paid and what I had to pay to work there. You can really not live from it.

INSANE. DONT take such underpaid jobs.

LastMinuteChanges 7th Nov 2014 21:14

Any news from the VOE hopefuls?

gene88 7th Nov 2014 21:54

Nothing so far....probably they have enough second officer already?

Aftrsunset 11th Nov 2014 05:06

A friend of mine got the mail yesterday that he got accepted. Guess that they are finished hiring by now


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