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me179 8th Sep 2014 12:50

Reson for rejection
 
I have 300 hrs, mostly SEP and about 40 hrs MEP, MCC and JOC and a university degree. Most of the airlines don't give a feedback, however NAS did give a feedback. Accordingly, they could give a feedback based on another reason. I have no problem to believe them. I'll keep working on building up my flying hrs, even on the C172.

I'll quote: "The general standard of applications has been extremely high and we have shortlisted candidates after flying hours, and unfortunately you have less hours than the majority of the candidates. "

It may be that the candidates are sorted according to age and experience, and maybe for NAS 300 hrs for my age is way too low.

Anyhow, good luck for all.

ME179

vasterlund 8th Sep 2014 12:55

yes the age compared to hrs might be the reason why :/
Keep working on the hours! I might as well fly the C172 the following 10 years before getting paid to fly..

bahja77 8th Sep 2014 13:03

but why do the send an invitation for the online assesment while they do know your total hours? when you applied you had to fill in your age and your total hours(PIC/SE/ME). And still they invited you to do the online assesment.

ValePilot 8th Sep 2014 13:07

Nice question...:ugh:

SpannerInTheWerks 8th Sep 2014 13:10


but why do the send an invitation for the online assesment while they do know your total hours? when you applied you had to fill in your age and your total hours(PIC/SE/ME). And still they invited you to do the online assesment.
I presume because they wouldn't know what the experience levels of the applicants were going to be until everyone had applied?

Hence the comment:


The general standard of applications has been extremely high and we have shortlisted candidates after flying hours, and unfortunately you have less hours than the majority of the candidates.
:)

SpannerInTheWerks 8th Sep 2014 13:19


I have 300 hrs, mostly SEP and about 40 hrs MEP, MCC and JOC and a university degree
That might be the problem - although other candidates might have similar hours, they probably attended an 'approved course' rather than hours building as your experience seems to suggest?


maybe for NAS 300 hrs for my age is way too low
That is low and your age/experience profile does not fit the 'age commensurate with experience' criteria (of other airlines, NAS doesn't quote this).

I know pilots who have gained employment with similar levels of experience to yours, but not straight on to jets and/or without attending an approved course.

vasterlund 8th Sep 2014 13:24

I just hope this position isn't another loan to add for all the applicants..

lear999wa 8th Sep 2014 14:04

From what I've seen, Norwegian tends to recruit the most experienced candidates.
For instance, I do not know of any cabin crew that has been hired without previous airline experience ( outside Scandinavia that is).
With such a response for the NTR position, I can only imagine that they are looking at all possible ways to shorten that list. And I would think that experience would be a good place to start.
I don't think age would play a part considering some of the best guys I fly with are past 50.

lele09131 8th Sep 2014 15:05

Norwegian recruiting cadets!!!
 
Applied as soon as the opening came out last month. Got an email today saying that they wont be taking my application further, copy/paste email, no feedback given other than what has already been mentioned. Good luck guys!

ValePilot 8th Sep 2014 15:15

And people with 300 hours or less? Really unprofessional to send invitation for online test, and then answer "The general standard of applications has been extremely high and we have shortlisted candidates after flying hours, and unfortunately you have less hours than the majority of the candidates". But, in the minimum requirements there is no limit regarding this. :mad:

aloa326 8th Sep 2014 15:53

doesn't make any sense, invite for online assessment and then refuse you because low hours.
Also because all of us sent the application with CV before the test....no sense at all

SpannerInTheWerks 8th Sep 2014 16:19


doesn't make any sense, invite for online assessment and then refuse you because low hours.
Possibly not - unless they have taken a number of low-hour pilots and their quota is full?

The traditional approach is, roughly:

Type-rated, current;
Type-rated, lapsed 12-24 months
Non-type rated, similar aircraft, current;
Non-type rated, similar aircraft, lapsed 12-24 months.

Then it's into the realms of those candidates who have limited flying experience and/or no experience as an airline pilot.

It's a question of risk management - not only cost but of capability in the cockpit.

Obviously not cast in stone, but unless they have a particular requirement to mix-and-match different experience levels that is the general trend.

Good news is that it seems there are an number of jobs available this year so just stick with it!

Don't ever be put off.

It took me 6 years and hundreds of applications to get my first job.

Many people told me I couldn't do it, but in the end I did fly the 'shiny jet'.

:ok:

ValePilot 8th Sep 2014 17:56


Applied as soon as the opening came out last month. Got an email today saying that they wont be taking my application further, copy/paste email, no feedback given other than what has already been mentioned. Good luck guys!
Did you the online test?

GeorgeHarrison 8th Sep 2014 18:35


Applied as soon as the opening came out last month. Got an email today saying that they wont be taking my application further, copy/paste email, no feedback given other than what has already been mentioned. Good luck guys!
:mad: sorry to hear! I have also applied on Aug 16th, did my online test on the 19th and still waiting for feedback, which I'm afraid is most likely to be negative.

Anyway, as the company says 'non-rated first officers', why is the word 'cadets' even mentioned in the thread? Where does it come from?

Cheers! :ok:

Modular CPL-IR-ME
MCC, no JOC
230 TT
25 yo

LeRotisseur 8th Sep 2014 19:00

"Cadets" is not really mentionned but suggested in this sentence:
"Preferably educated from an FTO offering integrated course or other ‘’single education site’’ offering ’’JET Orientation’’ and/or ‘’Multi Crew Cooperation Course MCC’’ on relevant type"

I think this is the reason why we think they would hire cadets.
May be they will, may be not, there's no rule. Let's give it a try, it costs nothing but time !

me179 9th Sep 2014 03:32

What do you mean by "approved course"?
 
Are you refering to the integrated training companred to my modular training?All my courses were approved with certificates from registred and approved FTOs in Germany.

ValePilot 9th Sep 2014 07:53

Everything is strange about this recruitment process:

1) People received negative email after applying even with experience.
2) People received negative email after online test, with or without reason ( but the hour's reason is the most mysterious to understand...)
3) People got positive email after couple of days after online test.
4) People waiting "side of the pool" for what? Booh !

Finding their criteria...:confused:

Merlot1985 9th Sep 2014 08:01

In my opinion, this is gonna be as the Easyjet recruitment is going, with a TT 2000 and 1700 turboprop and 500 as CM-1, I received a positive back-up from them regarding my online test, 3 weeks after that I received the PFO message, thanks for try but not today... There are a lot of workmates with experience around the world, and they see this process as an opportunity to come back home... Sadly I do believe this is not going to be a Cadet program....

Best of luck guys..

ValePilot 9th Sep 2014 08:26

But they should have set a minimum hour of 1000 TT or something like that! And overall why they asked people to do online test with 250 TT??

Holyjoe 9th Sep 2014 08:42

Norwegian recruiting cadets!!!
 
They are looking for a specific "type"...look at the tests...2 personality type exercises.we can all fly planes but they know the type of candidate they are looking for....and it has little to do with hours or experience.equally, they don't want 50 newbies with 200 hrs or 50 newbies with 2000+ time. Norwegian employ across a very broad spectrum of experience and age..So sit it out, wait for your response and stop trying to find a pattern....because there isn't one.good luck guys and gals.


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