City Jet....C###S
 

So I go 7 months without nothing from any airline, no confirmation of receipt of CV, no "sorry but we are not recuting," .... then one airline has the decency to respond to me.... CityJet...

Ah ha I think, finally maybe I might be onto something here...........

So I go along to their Aptitude tests in Dublin, at a cost of around 200 pounds including flight and hotels...........(Everyone who was there was from the UK, so why the f##k did they not hold the tests in the UK????)
I pass the aptitude tests so they tell me to come to interview in london, at a cost of around 150 pounds, including train fares and hotels............

Then they say to me.... sorry, but we do not want you.....

So I have spent 350 ish pounds to find that out! Cheers.

This is just another example of the disgraceful tactics used by this industry. For ANY other profession, if you are called to an interview the company calling you has the decency to pay your expenses, but in the airline industry???????????? They make you think that they are doing you a favour by considering you for their operation, im sorry but I an doing them a favour, by offering myself to work weekends, bank holidays, even christmas for your sorry outfit.

City Jet......... I hope your airline faces bankruptcy in the next year and I or any of my fiends and family will NEVER travel with your airline in the future. THANK YOU FOR WASTING MY TIME AND MONEY.

Vito.

Are you upset by any chance ?

Yes and when they go bust and their management/chief pilot etc goes elsewhere to another airline and you apply what are the chances of getting a job after that little outburst. This industry is to small to burn bridges.

Take it on the chin and move on.

.....and you think that you're the first person to experience this?

So you weren't good enough - take the lessons from what you gained by this experience. You will eventually find someone who says "yes" but until then.

Lastly - perhaps a change of attitude & a little less anger/bitterness, or you might be waiting a bit longer. People in this industry have a habit of remembering, inc those of us who are currently in the flight deck!!

All the best for the future

Vito Corleone, What world have you been living in, I have been called for interviews all over the UK in my past life, once with the RAC, 1st interview in Leeds at 8am, 2nd interview in London again early morning, I travelled the day before on both occasions and stayed overnight at my expense, then worked for an Irish firm, 1st interview in Stoke, 2nd in Wellesbourne, as before travelled on previous days and stayed overnight at my expense.
I got both jobs but thats irrelevent.

Maybe next time you get a sniff of something, put in your covering letter that you will only be interviewed in your own home, or within a 10 mile radius of it, or anywhere else at the companys expense. See how far you get.

Yes its annoying, but get real.

Vito, maybe it's not the case...so I will stand corrected if I'm wrong.

However due to the depressing and negative tones that are displayed in your posts, have you ever thought that your attitude may be in contention here?

As someone correctly said, aviation is a small world and names are remembered. And by the way, your situation isn't unique. How many others (including myself) are in the same boat as you find yourself. At least you have had a little experience of what airline recruitment is all about. Some people don't even get that far!

Moaning to people will get you the square root of 'F' all in this industry. As inexperienced as I am, I'm pretty certain that this is true!

vito,
There are thousands of airlines in the world,when i get my CPL i will be applying to every single airline someone,someday is going to employ me. You are so negative its unbelievable. I can think of nothing or no one that is going to stop me in my dream to be an airline pilot.

I think possibly the abusive tone of your post illustrates why you didn't get the job. :mad:

It happens to us all you fool. You are obviously very limited in your experience of life and responsibility. As the others say, it should be seen as a positive thing because you have gained the experience, the tools to arm yourself for your next interview, thats if you ever get one now! It seems your one track immature mind never thought that the citi jet people might have the brains to put two and two together by reading your pathetic post.

If it was me who had interviewed you, I would have no trouble sussing out which tosser just slagged me and my company off online because they were not up to the standards of the company!

A little piece of my heart goes out to you, because it seems that you have made a gargantuan mistake in investing yours, or more likely parents money, in what is your biggest mistake.

Oh give him a break! I happen to think it is a bit of a cheek being made to pay all this-I think in the aviation industry we pay so much already that he has a right to be frustrated. It's true that in any other industry those expenses would be refunded if you were not successful, and it's only because people are willing to accept being ripped off in desperation for a job that companies don't feel any need to meet those costs.
He is only showing a negative attitude because he is feeling frustrated-surely we have all been there,so lets show a little empathy!

Looks to me like Cityjet just had a very lucky escape :hmm:

Vito - Bad luck. At least you had an opportunity to sell yourself and meet them. Ive been trying with CityJet for ages and not even a sniff. Did you have to pay for the interview itself? Some other Irish carrier require a payment to participate in the selction process!
As regards to yor attitude, im not going to comment on it to say "get real" etc. However if you are perhaps coming across a bit too "aggresive" in an interview situation, this maybe a factor which is putting them off. Airlines usually want a balanced personality and nothing too extreme, (not too aggressive or too meek!)
You could try other European carriers though. They do pay for your expenses there.
Good luck

We have all undoubtedly been there. However, the mistake is showing negativity in public and in such an immature fashion.

Ok, but he does have a point about expenses. In SOME other walks of life these are paid to prospective candidates, subsequently hired or not. The airline sector thinks, quite factually as it turns out, that because it is offering a glamorous job (is it?) for which there are always many aspiring hopefuls, it can get away without paying.

That's just the beginning of it unfortunately, and whilst there are too many applicants for each and every job it's not going to change, in fact it will get worse. Ask anyone who works for Ryanair.

I have one fundamental problem with your post Vito. Irrespective of whether the principle of future employees paying their own expenses is right or wrong, YOU KNEW THE DEAL BEFORE YOU ATTENDED.

If you had an ethical problem with paying your own travel and accomodation you should not have attended the selections. That would have been the time to make a stand.

This would also have been the case if you had been successful. The principle would have been exactly the same. Your reaction, however, would have been somewhat different I believe? They would have been your new best friends. But because they rejected you they are "C###S." Slightly warped logic.

Incidentally, what do you know about the "airline industry" as a whole? You've attended a selection with ONE company. Some companies will pay your expenses, some won't. The ones that will are not necessarily the ones you would expect.

Grow up.

PS And good luck to you Sir

"Everyone who was there was from the UK, so why the f##k did they not hold the tests in the UK????".....errr....maybe because it's an Irish airline?
The world doesn't owe you a living, pal. Anybody who has done even a moderate amount of research into the aviation industry knows that the really hard work begins AFTER training. We've all been there, I still have all my rejection letters, it made it all the sweeter when I finally did get a job. But your outburst makes me wonder how you would cope with life in the airlines...there's a LOT of being messed about, you may have to relocate, etc. I would suggest removing the house-sized chip from your shoulder, as any interviewer is going to spot that a mile away.

Something to consider for the future...

FT

Cityjet interview
 

Maybe getting off the subject a little bit but whats new on pprune:)! I have had several interviews both for instructor positions and airline jobs. Some I have been lucky with and some unlucky.
Had an interview with Cityjet back in June and I must say it was probably the easiest, most comfortable interview i have ever had. I came away thinking that it was "in the bag" (and I aint normally optimistic). Few days later the letter arrived..thanks but no thanks. So one doesnt really know what they were looking for!!
That is fair enough..they are employing so they call the shots. I just hope that one doesnt get called to interview when the decision has already been made and you are being interviewed just to "make the numbers up". I am not saying that was the case here but it certainly goes on in other professions so i guess its no different in aviation.

Best of luck to everyone in their search:ok:

today, i've got a written letter posted by Cityjet stating that they reviewed my experience (600 hrs) but they decided do not call me in for an interview due my lack of experience :ugh:

... well good luck to whom might got the job :}

My interview at Ryan Air cost me 800.00 pounds and they didn't even have the courtesy to let me know if I had passed or failed. I chased them up after a week with a telephone call and they didnt have a clue who I was. Then I got a standard email a few days later saying I had been unsucessful...(after they had praised me up all day and mentioned start days, cost of TR etc)

But I hope they don't go bankrupt as there will be about 4000 pilots on the market which would ruin us all (wannabee's that is)

Sim practice on 737-200 400.00
FR Fee 260.00
Flight 100.00 with Ryan Air...bastards done me again haha
Hotel 50.00

I have agree with Dann, come on guys you must have known the deal.

If you are prepared to part with you hard earned cash to fund a selection process surely you have to take the rough with the smooth, and accept the fact you may be unsucessful, as well as be sucessful.

Its a hard business chaps, but try not to be bitter, keep trying.

All the best.