Hi all,

Do Flybe require you to have an MCC Certificate before applying or do they put you through it on type training?

Would be grateful for any help

Many thanks

Expedite

You have to hold an MCC beforehand, I was asked to present mine at interview. Pretty much the norm with nearly all airlines I should imagine.

Officially yes, but they are prepared to make an exception in special circumstances. I met a guy who had been offered a job with the company prior to his sim check, and subject to a satisfactory performance on this check ride would be starting with the company the following day. He had no MCC (the company was going to pay for this for him), but he was a resident of Guernsey and at that time the company was desperate for a new FO at the base with residency rights.

Flybe
 

Most of flybe's planes are twin piston engine planes, does this mean you only need up to a certain rating, not a full course.I heard you only need a icr or something and you are allowed to fly piston planes for reward or higher.

erm, flybe have no piston powered aircraft, they are turbine powered.
To fly any turbine aircraft you need a type rating, and before you can do a type rating you need a CPL/IR & ME rating, (someone tell me if this is incorrect)

Turbine sorry,i hear that is not a full course, you leave out all of the jet stuff out.Would that be a cheaper course to do or is it worth just doing jets.I do not care one bit what airplane i am flying, just aslong as i have a good salary.If you worked for someone like flybe and only did cross country flights,how long would you be at work for,i know it would be shorter that most other pilots.

gulp...... are you for real?

I'm going red for you now, airbus,boy...

You really need to do some research.
 

Firstly, I am by no means claiming to be an expert on this. In fact, I'm just about to start my training. :)
In 'Laymens (sp?) terms' a Turbine (also known as a turbo-prop or turbo-jet) engine, is a 'Jet engine' with a reduction gear box 'slapped' on to the front.
As far as i'm aware, all multi-crew aircraft, or at least all turbine powered aircraft (thats turbo-prop/ turbo-jet and fan-jet) require a type rating.
As for the time you spend at work, I would imagine that all opperators aim to get the maximum out of theyr'e employees which I believe this is 900 flying hrs per year - someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Cheers,
EB

I thought to fly turboprob aircraft for flybe you only had to obtain a certain licence.I think its called cpr, im not sure but please correct me if im wrong.

You are wrong.....

.... to work for flybe you need to have a fATPL and an MCC certificate.

Have a look at this link:

http://www.flybe.com/vacancies/fo.htm

Flybe
 

The minimum requirements for Flybe is a Frozen ATPL. That consists of a CPL & Multi Engine Instrument Rating (IR) and MCC (Multi Crew Co-Operation Certificate). If you are lucky enough to be accepted, you then undergo a Type Ratnig course on the Dash 8 Q400, which I think is the aircraft that you refer to? A Type rating is a pretty common requirement for any complex multi-crew or even single crew turbine (turboprop) aircraft. I also doubt that you would fly 900 hours a year with Flybe; however I could be wrong??

airbus, boy: By the time you get to 18 you should have had 14 years of schooling. What really grieves me is that I have paid tax for your education because you were only there for a few days of it. I could have spent that money on something useful, like beer or kebabs. As you are old enough, how about popping off to B&Q and buying a nice pot of glue. It would make you alot happier than any more posts here.

PM

You're all wrong! No such thing as an fATPL. You can, however, hold a Commercial Pilots Licence (CPL) with Instrument Rating having passed all (14) ATPL exam subjects. Your CPL/IR becomes an ATPL once you have completed your first Licensing Proficiency Check after completing 1500 hrs total time including 500 hrs mutli-pilot aircraft etc etc etc.
Back to the lad's question (now could I be any more patronising? :E):
Suggest you get hold of Clive Hughes' book: "Guide to Getting a Commercial Pilot Licence." http://www.ppl-atpl.demon.co.uk/index.htm
This will answer many of your questions and is an exceptionally handy reference book (until someone borrows it!).

PS Just because FlyBE mentions a fATPL on its website doesn't mean it's right. When I worked for FlyBE which was not that long ago they were still talking about CAP509 courses....! Which hadn't existed for quite some time.

hahaha, you have certainly cheered me up!

if you reflect the level of most young pilots, then there is no wonder so many are unemployed!

how ever, ill tell you the different kinds of FCL you can have, just to keep my self amused!

PPL - Private pilot, you may only fly a/c less than 5.7t AND MAY NOT BE PAYED.

CPL - enables you to be paid for flying, generally useless on its own, you could do some paradropping, or aerial photography

ATPL - the all singing all dancing one, you must have 1500hrs, inc 500 multi crew, the only way to get this is to get a job! the fATPL does not really exist, but most clain to have it, including me! it is a CPL with IR (see below) with the ATPL theory credits

there are serveral add on's, also known as rating you can put on a each FCL, these are a bit more speffic about what you may fly,

eg

SEP - single engine piston, you normally get this as a default with a PPL

MEP - multi engine piston, allows you to fly multi engine piston planes, no this does not include anything with two engine and props like flybe, flybe ac have jet engines with a prop on the front.

IR - instructment rating, allows you to fly IFR, most people get a me-ir, which allows you to fly multi engine planes in IMC condictions

TR - typw rating, allows you to fly one type of ac, like a q400!!!

if you want to work for flybe, you need: CPL/ ME-IR MCC, they will bond you for the TR on the q400.

best of luck, you've made my day!

Im not sure what a Turboprob aircraft is, must be flybe's latest weapon:rolleyes:


As for a CPR licence, i believe that you can only use it on stiffs

"I also doubt that you would fly 900 hours a year with Flybe" - I stand corrected.:hmm: maybe:}

this thread is fantastic.

:ok:

5700Kg ?
 

Adverse-bump

Show me where a PPL limits anyone to an aircraft of 5700KG or below.

Cheers.....

I was worried about gettin getting a cpl/ir in my late thirties . However if this is the standard of the youth competition i'll be up against I am worried no more.