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boredaccountant 4th Jun 2007 14:04

Well done to our colleague who has recently commenced type rating.

Hang in there everyone.... our day will come!

dodge123 5th Jun 2007 09:02


If it is any help to you all. I have information from a very reliable source that one of the sept/oct Aqc guys is out of the holdpool and placed with one of their partners.
Any idea which partner airline this person was placed with?

Instinct 5th Jun 2007 12:41

Yes, that would be Jet2, 737, Leeds base.

/ Instinct

no sponsor 6th Jun 2007 16:44

Great for them...

...and for those of us already in jet2 who had to pay for our TR and are on the 'transfer' list to go to Leeds on a first-come first-served basis :ugh:

Troy McClure 6th Jun 2007 17:35

Pays your money, takes your choice. Could have been with airline 2 years ago if I'd paid for a TR but don't see why I should have to....

flan 7th Jun 2007 17:58

Troy,

Maybe you should have paid two years ago! Surely waiting for CTC to call you and then when finally placed with an airline working for less than a direct entry F/O for several years. Are you not really still paying for your type rating in the end?

Nothing is free!

Two years wasted???:confused:And still waiting!

bigjarv 8th Jun 2007 08:03

Thinks it's a matter of principal for Troy. Someone has to have them! Don't like this new precedent that has been set of paying for type ratings, not for me but future pilots coming through the system. Selfless aren't I!!!!

Some of us can't get jobs without buying a type rating whilst others of us are turning down jobs and don't have type ratings. Go figure!!!

Congrats and good luck to the one that has moved out of the pool! :ok: Am in hot persuit and swimming frantically with excitement!!!

PS No reduced salary for us!

KindolFaret 8th Jun 2007 08:39


finally placed with an airline working for less than a direct entry F/O for several years.
In the CTC Wings ATP programme you enter with Direct Entry Salary and no bond. You're free once you've finished your line training. You're only bonded during uu line training.

Good luck to you all!

Troy McClure 8th Jun 2007 10:45

Not 100% a principle issue for me, just never seems a good time. There's always been something in the pipeline, just a couple of months to wait.....

Would I abandon the hold pool with CTC now to pay for a type rating?: No. Similar was true 2 years ago.

In the meantime, have done a few decent jobs that I wouldn't have missed.

Let's have a call from CTC in the near future, and I'll have no regrets.

Sky Wave 8th Jun 2007 11:52

Flan

We (ATPers) do not work on a reduced salary for several years. After we've completed the 6 months line experience (a.k.a. slave labour) we enter on direct entry FO salary.

Although, you do have an interesting point. If troy was offered an equivalent job 2 years ago, on say a 737 or an A320 I'm guessing the TR would have probably cost around £30000. If he/she had been earning around £30k per year with that airline then they could be £30k better off assuming they've not been working in civvy street for the past 2 years. You also don't have to undergo the CTC 6 month slave labour at £1000 per month.

Doing the maths, Troy could have been much better off and 2 years higher up the seniority ladder if he/she had paid for the type rating! With over 500 hours Troy could be in BA by now if that’s what he/she fancied. I accept that you could have had a very well paid non airline job which you were doing over the past 2 years which would destroy my logic, I just thought it was an interesting point. I wasn’t in such a fortunate position to be offered a job subject to type rating, in fact the only sniff of an interview that I got was with CTC!

Anyway guys, enough of my ramblings. Hang on in the hold pool, the call will come and I assure you it's great once you’re through the other side of the system. I was in the pool from June 06 and started with EZY in January 07. It’s worth the wait, and it’s really satisfying to know you’ve made it to the RHS of a jet without paying for the type rating, in fact if you consider that CTC pay us £6500 in subsistence plus a £2000 bonus for passing your final line check then they actually pay £2000 more than the initial outlay.

I realise it’s not about the money, but CTC is the best deal on the market and you’re all in a very good position. Just keep swimming.

SW

Frank Furillo 13th Jun 2007 14:31

Just keep swimming!!!!!!! Are all you guys related to Dory by any chance?





For reference look at "Finding Nemo" by Pixar




I'm a great white shark called Bruce....what type of fish are you?

flan 13th Jun 2007 18:08

Frank Furillo aka Bruce

I think I might be Crush, Keep on swimming:)

Boonanza 14th Jun 2007 09:25

Tough choice... I felt a bit like Dory after finishing the AQC - it took me about a week after finishing to work out where I was or what I was doing...!

Righto.. back to swimming - every day spent is one closer to starting the TR :D :D :D

Mintflavour 14th Jun 2007 09:37

How many made it through the May AQC and is there a June AQC currently going through or is that it now until they (if) start up round 3 and open up for applications again.

mint

Boonanza 14th Jun 2007 10:02

from memory, ATP wise I think the April course was one of the last AQC's... does anyone else have any other info?
:}

Mintflavour 14th Jun 2007 10:33

I was took up the oppertunity to move from the May 7th to the April course, so I can only assume that there was a May course, also I was in contact with a guy who was supposed to be on the May course but have heard anything from him since april.

Mint

cortilla 14th Jun 2007 11:45

I'd heard that the last one was the may course, atleast temporarily and until the NZ guys start heading back in significant numbers. Any one going out of the top?? Let's be fair there won't be much movement until after the summer season but still lets hope all the charter airlines and easy suddenly realise they need 30 odd people now (wishful thinking i know)

Fair_Weather_Flyer 14th Jun 2007 15:34

When you say "Cadets," do you mean that there are not places for ATP'ers on the September TR?

cortilla 14th Jun 2007 17:49

Just out of curiosity. 3 out of how many?

Troy McClure 14th Jun 2007 18:06

And why hasn't Monarch started snapping people up? All info points to them being desperately short of FO's. Or are they poaching all those ex BACON people who have rejected flybe's new contract?


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