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Honeycomb 23rd Dec 2006 23:52


Originally Posted by TartanFlyer (Post 3024158)
I did really well and scored mostly "normals" throughout, luckily I therefore shouldn't be swimming for much longer. Feel free to PM me if you need any more info...

TF

Not as confident around the ladies as with the old stick and rudder?

triple_2 28th Dec 2006 15:39

Hi folks!

For everybody in the pool: Hoping for places for everybody soon in 2007! :)

Anyone positive info? Been swimming for a couple of months now and I need some good news......

P.S. about the australian goose holding pool sequence story: everybody is in line on date, not results (unfortunately); asked CTC myself... Please use this thread for valid input, not the other kind....

ChocksAwayUK 28th Dec 2006 16:39


Originally Posted by triple_2 (Post 3040649)
P.S. about the australian goose holding pool sequence story: everybody is in line on date, not results (unfortunately); asked CTC myself... Please use this thread for valid input, not the other kind....

Agreed - just in case anyone else gets confused (see Mooneyboy), the AustralianGoose/Tartan Flyer is a comedy account and anything that it states as fact should be ignored. By all means laugh at it, of course.

Craggenmore 28th Dec 2006 19:02

OzGoose

The guys who did not score well on my AQC course failed. They were not put into the pool to be walked over.

Where did you get your 'information' from?

Saffer 29th Dec 2006 15:13


Originally Posted by ChocksAwayUK (Post 3040709)
AustralianGoose/Tartan Flyer is a comedy account and anything that it states as fact should be ignored. By all means laugh at it, of course.

I would reckon that Chocks has pretty much nailed it on the head, OzGoose is having a laugh (or has swallowed to much water while trying to stay afloat and it's affected his mental stability :} ) and Tartan is simply misguided...

Heres to the New Year and revised recruitment policies and practices that have been waiting to be initiated in 2007 bringing with it a tidal wave that will turn the pool into a puddle :) And before you can say "wheres my P45", we will all be back in the Forest Park Hotel looking for teddy bears and discussing the merits of spending to much time and hope on this forum :} ...

Hey heres some interesting news for those of you that don't know. Oasis Hong Kong Airlines and easyJet are in talks regarding a possible alliance, allowing passengers to therefore travel intercontinental on an EZY ticket - interesting future possibilities for the likes of us should the two LCC's decide to tie the knot, or not:E

The futures bright, the futures ******:}

AustralianGoose 2nd Jan 2007 13:01


Originally Posted by FlyBoyS340 (Post 3034689)
You wrote it Goose/TartanFlyer!!! Man you must be bored!!!

FlyBoyS340

I'm confused, or is there another Goose flying around? :confused:

As far as I can tell TartanFlyer wrote the thread or is there a TartanGoose to which you perhaps refer, in which case that would make sense However I did a search and can't find a TartanGoose. There's only one Goose and shall only ever be!

Anyway - why so defensive?

And yes you are right about the boredom :ugh:

boredaccountant 8th Jan 2007 15:11

January 2007
Hello. Has anyone got any recent information from people ahead of them in the holdpool as regards start dates for type rating? Someone told me today that no ATP pilots will commence type rating until late April/ May 2007 because of the volume of wings cadet pilots filling the courses.
That would potentially put guys who completed AQC Aug/ Sept/ Oct time almost a 10 month swim in the pool by the time they actually commence training again as I understand some people from july last year are still swimming?
I hope this information is wrong and that we all get a call soon. But at a very boyant time in aviation I would have hoped that a 2/3 month swim was a sufficent waiting time for anyone.... especially in the busy winter months.
Regards

Saffer 8th Jan 2007 16:18


Originally Posted by boredaccountant (Post 3057483)
January 2007
Someone told me today that no ATP pilots will commence type rating until late April/ May 2007 because of the volume of wings cadet pilots filling the courses.


Interesting news, how valid is the source of the information though - would it be Wings cadets filling the sim slots or would it be TRSS applicants with the required hours?

Didn't realise that CTC prioritised Cadets over ATP guys and girls, is this truly the case :eek:

dodge123 8th Jan 2007 17:01


Didn't realise that CTC prioritised Cadets over ATP guys and girls, is this truly the case
Cadets do get priority over the ATP guys, and given that they were effectively taken on by Easyjet at the start of their courses over 18mths ago you can't really complain.

Go_Detent 8th Jan 2007 21:39

I've also heard (from a fairly reliable source) that EZY type ratings are quote "...booked until the end of April." Whether this means that slots have already been allocated on these courses remains unclear, however, having finished the AQC late last year, I'm expecting to wait until May at the earliest. Things could all change if EZY have a recruitment glut of course..... :)

Anyone got any update on other partner airlines' plans???

boredaccountant 8th Jan 2007 22:35

Well Thomas Cook have agreed to take 6 ATP pilots as stated in the December mail from Lee Woodward.
Monarch have taken ATP pilots every winter since the beginning of the ATP scheme, although I haven't heard that confirmed for this winter.
As for the others.... anyone with news it would be great to hear anything!!
The good thing is that if the other partner airlines have a demand for pilots, they will almost certinaly come out of the ATP pool, rather than cadet, due to most of cadet pilots already being signed up to EZY etc... from early or mid way through their training.
Some good news is that the CTC website is still taking fresh applications for the ATP scheme............so at least CTC are confident that future demand from the airlines is still there!

Mintflavour 8th Jan 2007 23:30

Just been to the ctc web site, it allows you to start a CTC wings application but it still does not allow you to start an ATP application.

Watching this thread closely even though Im not due to start the AQC until May, (passed phase 3 in November), If the trend continues the same for 2007 into 2008 I get the feeling Im still going to be swimming this time next year. gutting as my desk job is getting more and more unbearable.

If any of you people have any AQC preperation advice in the mean time please PM me, (I dont want to Hijack this thread with unrelated info)

All the best to you all,

mint

ChocksAwayUK 9th Jan 2007 07:56


Originally Posted by boredaccountant (Post 3058055)
Well Thomas Cook have agreed to take 6 ATP pilots as stated in the December mail from Lee Woodward.

Yup, they were placed with TC after an interview at Dibden last week and start on an A320 rating next week. Somewhat annoyingly they were from the August AQC thereby leapfrogging those of us from the July AQC who were initially supposed to start with EZ in February but have had our Type Rating cancelled and been plunged back into the pool.

edit: Oh god, and a glance to my personal info on the left there shows my age has increased as of yesterday. The goal was always to be an airline pilot by the time I'm 30. :{

DickPilot 9th Jan 2007 08:10

August being the course that finished in August or started in August? I think it's time for another update from CTC!

ChocksAwayUK 9th Jan 2007 08:42


Originally Posted by DickPilot (Post 3058497)
August being the course that finished in August or started in August? I think it's time for another update from CTC!

Ended in August. Or at least the 8 were mainly from that course though I understand there were a couple of exceptions.
At the beginning of December us EZ cancellees were told we'd get an update in "the next few weeks or so." <<< bit non-committal that.

DickPilot 9th Jan 2007 08:56

I'm not aware of anyone being taken from the pool who started in July, let alone August. As far as I know, all 9 are still swimming. Why would they dip into the August and bypass all of July? Are we sure of that info?

ChocksAwayUK 9th Jan 2007 09:12

Uh-oh, could be opening up a can of worms here. Things we are sure of:
8 CTCers were placed with TC last week on a Type Rating starting next week.
At least 4 of these were from the August AQC.
1 was from the July AQC.
1 had some unusual circumstances that I didn't fully understand - something about already being rated on something - dunnow, possibly irrelevant.


Why would they dip into the August and bypass all of July?
That's the question. Possibly because when the TC list was drawn up all of the July AQC group were placed with EZ. The one July AQCer was perhaps called in later due to someone dropping out of the TC group after the February EZ rating was cancelled.
Another theory: With TC being a new/unusual client CTC may be trying to impress them with higher quality candidates and put candidates forward who performed particularly well on the AQC - many of those just happened to be from the August AQC. I think this is unlikely for many reasons but do admit that it is a possibility.

Port Strobe 9th Jan 2007 11:57


Originally Posted by ChocksAwayUK (Post 3058610)
With TC being a new/unusual client

Guess who took the first cadet course?

Mintflavour 9th Jan 2007 14:19


Originally Posted by londonmet (Post 3058776)
Cadets have priority over ATP people for entry into easyJet and other airlines.

L Met

Who decides this? the airlines choice or CTC normal practice.

Are ATP guys/girls used to fill the gaps by cadet short falls?

Cheers

mint

triple_2 9th Jan 2007 14:30

I guess it's something about them paying 60k and us paying 6...

Fair enough!:)


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