Getting an assessement
 

Hi,
I see several posters stating that they have either gone through an assessment with Ryanair or are "booked" for one shortly.
Is this the luck of the draw? My application is with them for months but heard nothing apart from an acknowledgement.

Does anyone know of any other airline recruiting low hrs pilots??? Have yet to do my TR. Can this be done in US or anywhere else? Should I consider funding this first and hoping to get a placement afterwards?

Feel the longer I am without flying experience the more difficult it will be to get anything.

Any suggestions?:)

I mean that there are more applicants than jobs. Don't expect that because you can pay you should get in. Doesn't work that way. If you get selected for assessment and you pass, then you are in the holding pool. You just have to wait for a course to be offered. It could be a long wait. I do know that you got in the holding pool but not knowing anything definite is very frustrating!

As far as the other comment about getting a TR is concerned, then I strongly advise not to do so without a 100% watertight job guarantee. The FR course is good in that respect as if you get in the pool and don't get called then you don't pay for a TR and not have a job after.

I would say that you are best not to do the type rating first. I think you have a much better chance of being taken on if you need the type ratiing. You can then go through the Ryanair machine. They need to keep their courses busy and their sims going. If you get your own type rating, I think you may not be very interesting to them at all. It is a whole different ball game comming to them from another airline with experience on type, but if you have just done a type rating course at some other school, all you have done is do them out of the course fees. Not a good idea!

How many chance you get for an assessment?
 

Hi,
Is there anyone who has called for twice or mare than twice for assessment?R they hiring?


Regards,

KFTW

RyanAir Assessment
 

Hi guys,

About RyanAir assessment, does anybody know about any questions to prepare, or has any documents about it?

Other question is about the Sim Check. What to prepare, which plates, RWY, which exercices ?

Regards

Cédric

KFTW:

I can confirm that CAE are forwarding CV's and they in turn are getting assessment dates.

Now time for me to go study the 737NG :)

Ryanair Sim Assessment
 

PPL / CPL / ME / IR / MCC - £65,000

Ryanair Sim Assessment - £ 260

Sim Preparation - £ 600

New Suit for Interview - £ 200

Travel Cost / Hotel - £ 150


Getting rejected on Christmas Eve by email even though interview and sim assessment went well.............ABSOLUTELY F**KIN PRICELESS!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

At least you saved the £22k on the TR:D

I would be inclined to say that they can be a bit more selective than in previous better times for the industry.

Also, the pass percentage rate for the assessments has never been that high. I heard a rumour of only 20% get through, how strong that rumour is I don't know.

Don't feel too bad. It's a myth that all you need is cash to get into Ryanair. The fact that they took on so many new FOs in the last couple of years made it look like it was easy to get in when really the % of applicants that made it through was quite low.

:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh: :ugh::ugh:

Myself and a friend both got through this month.

Waiting to hear when the TR will be.

Sorry to hear the bad news, keep the head up and I think you can re-apply again in a few months? Anyone else confirm this?

Hi Lads ,
Can some of you who were at the recent sim check shed some light on the tech questions that were asked and the Sim detail ?

Best regards and good luck .

Ryanair Sim Assessment
 

Ladies and Gents

Here's a little summary of what happened on my Assessment and some tips for anyone who's got an assessment coming up.

There were seven of us there on the day and i was last for the interview and the sim assessment so be prepared to wait around for a long time but the plus point in that is you get an idea of what everyone else is being asked in interview and the sim assessment.

technical interview lasted about 15 mins for me, whereas some were grilled for over 40 mins. I suppose if you tell them what they're asking, it should be straightforward. Try not to waffle on too much because they ask leading questions. the more you talk, the more they take you deeper into conversation.

HR Guy went first. First thing i was asked is what i know about Ryanair i.e Fleet size type of airplane, bases, rosters and how they work, number of sectors etc keep your answers short, simple but to the point. Then things about how i got into flying etc. this part was very straightforward.
Then the tech guy started and the first thing he asked was to explain what an airspeed indicator (ASI) was and how it worked. He tried to make it harder by wanting me to explain to him in layman terms, so anytime i said something like dynamic pressure he would interrupt and ask me to explain that as well. In a way i was leading him to the next questions. Then he asked what the Altimeter was and how it worked. same kind of thing. In both of these questions he was looking for specific terms for me to mention ie. expanding and contracting capsule, calibrated pointer, density decrease with height etc. He then asked me about the kind of engine on 737. CFM56 with a high bypass engine, and i had to explain to him how a high bypass engine works, where and how much thrust is generated, how much is bypassed etc.

In summary, know all you can about the 737-800 and Ryanair. HR guy seems to ask straightforward questions about Ryanair to see if you've done your homework. Tech guys can ask anything at all and its a stroke of luck. Everything they ask has been studied by us in our groundschool so we do know it. It sometimes seems hard to explain when asked directly.

one of the other guys for the interview was asked about what kind of elevator system the 737 has. another was asked about stability and another was asked about general spin recoveries and stall characteristics(maybe because he was an instructor). Every interview is different.

Sim assessment - in the morning we were given a basic brief about the 737 display and were handed plates for E Mids. we were told we would be doing a Trent 1N departure (BUT nobody on the day actually did it) along with NDB and ILS plates for E Mids.

When we got into the sim we were given a new clearance - '' Climb 2000ft on RW Heading, Upon reaching right turn Hdg 090 climbing to 5000ft''

everybody was given this clearance. Levelled off at 5k and we were given left and right turns onto hdgs followed by speed increases and decreases. Try to maintain all the speed, altitude and hdg clearances.
This was followd by an emergency. I had a left engine failure. My partner had a fire in the rear toliets. Most others were told of passengers having heart attacks. In all cases we requested a return to E Mids. I called for the checklist, he immediately said complete and gave me back both engines after i made a radio call to request Vectors for an approach. he paused the sim so we could brief the plates and then carried out an NDB approach. my first approac was good and about 100ft from the threshold he instructed me to go around. when i cleaned up the aircaft, the sim was frozen and he put us back on to a 4 mile final which we landed and stopped on the runway centreline. Thats the end of the Sim assessment.

Apologies for going on abit too long but hope this helps. Best of luck wth your assessment. Let me know how it goes. http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/thumbs.gif
Any other questions, just ask.

Captain Asad

Ryan
 

I get more confused the more I read about all these assessments for Ryan. I did mine over 6 mths ago and since that NONE of my mates got in, and nearly all of those did the so called ryan approved MCC!!! I just do not know what they are looking for!!! I know one guy who had over 1000 hrs as a FI and he didn't even get an interview, was told he didn't fit the profile. Anyway these things do work out in the end. I got another job 3 weeks ago and I have to say, I'm much much happier. Captain Asad, it will work out mate, and for the best. Ryan seem to be turning down almost everyone at the minute, makes you wonder.................££

tonyf, they will not make a profit from your interview. The operating costs from your simulator session will make sure of that.

Remember guys, they are looking at you as potential commanders for the future so it may be good keeping your answers short and to the point if its a subject your not sure of, if they leading you into questions, then work your magic and lead them into an area your good at and show them you know what your talking about.

wbryce is right.

The hourly operating costs of the simulator, and the staffing costs, mean there is no way that Ryanair will be making a profit out of running the assessments.

In fact, they will probably be making quite a substantial hourly loss.

That may be true guys, as some of you would be in a better position than myself to know, all I'm saying is that those of us trying to choose an MCC provider should maybe think about doing the so called ryan approved one because its more expensive and does not seem to produce the result that potential pilots expect, and that has been proven by at least 8 people I know. Maybe spend the extra money on doing some hrs on an 800 sim and that might prepare you better. I know everyone cant get the job but its a sad state of affairs that the ryan MCC isnt getting more pilots into the right seat. We cant all be crap pilots. A 10 min interview and 30 min in the sim cant achieve an in deapth look at the potential employee either. My last interview was 30 min and 2 hrs in the sim.

There's no doubt that Ryan is a sought after place to be, and righly so, but maybe think a little more before you spend your money. It seams to be very difficult at the moment to be the right applicant. Anyway good luck to all of you applying. These things work out in the end. Trust me!

I've said this before and I'll say it again; you need to pick your time to apply to FR very carefully. A prudent wannabe would wait. I'd put money on a much higher pass rate in six months or so, roughly when 738s get delivered and pax figures hit the roof. Just like last spring/summer.

As for Virtualaviation:

If you go to a company's web site very similar to your own name, you will find the 738 sim is roughly £500 per hour, incl 30 minute briefing. Obviously, they will be making money out of this.

FR assessment is £260 per applicant. 2 applicants per sim for an hour works out at £520 per hour. In other words, slightly more that a viable business charges. I cannot see how they are NOT making money.

The proof is in the pudding. They are assessing masses of wannabes as we speak and fully admit there are no TR courses and no jobs for them untill well into next year if at all. For an airline which charges for debit card payments and uniform, this only makes sense if it is financially viable to do so.

EK

TheGlide
 

Hi,
When did u get mail from Ryanair?where did u apply?What experience you have?


Regards and best of luck,
KFTW