I Go For A Type
 

AT the end, I have decided to be type rated on the A320.
I pay myself my training. The industry didnt give me the choice.

I will talk you later from FL350.

Ahem, nobody cares spaceman.

Hell freezes over!
Good luck spaceman, and please tell us about your experiences.

cheers

Spaceman1000 I'm interested to see a slight change in your attitude towards aviation. Regardless of whether paying for a type rating is a good or a bad thing - at least your trying to do something finally rather than moaning on PPrune.

Best of luck anyway - I'm sure you'll let us all know how it goes etc... - Perhaps a TR Diary?

It is of no wonder that "I pay myself my training",
"The industry didnt give me the choice"because being illittttrrrate the industry most certainly cannot afford to give you a choice.
Pay to have no say, especially from FL350

A320 Rating
 

Hi Spaceman!
Just a question: Which company employs you without hours on type? I mean the Idea sounds good to me if a job is for sure!
All the Best...

Aerowinx

Spaceman; excellent news, things are clearly improving I wish you all the best, Im sure that there will be many interested chief pilots reading this thread now wanting to PM you with job offers!

Thanks for keeping us advised on your personal struggle to achieve success in this industry against all the odds. We look on in admiration and respect. Well done indeed.

:cool:

RVR800, nice one! You get the "PPRuNe tongue in cheek" award! :ok:

Cheers :cool:

thank you for your "good luck".
For the one who has chosen to wait, it is free to him.
I have found the money so I go for it. Certainly I would prefer that a company forks the money for me, but it is not going to happen, specially in a low cost airline. You can still wait for british airways, Airfrance,....But I do not believe these airlines will pay a pilot with no jet experience.I could be wrong,...But I see what I see.There are no job for non type rated pilot, or only a few jobs.

as fo the problem of 500h jet.I do not care. If they do not want me, that is fine. I have decided to fly for the best company who give a chance to motivated pilots, not the one who says" we need 500h jet, and 3000 h TT, and this and that...."These companies have certainly no openings.
as for the BS coming for Ryanair and Easy who tell you they do not hire type rated guys, yes, maybe today, but what tomorrow?



I will keep you in touch.

"I will keep you in touch."
O please do and try and keep in touch with reality whilst you go about whatever the hell you decide, Ya Fruitcake.:}

This has to be a different spaceman surely? U only sound fairly downhearted and negative compared to your usual "the world hates me" esque rants against humanity!

Good luck and if u do take some positives out of your course rather than "i spent xxxxx euros on a tr and still nobody likes me" then pls do share them with us!:ok:

if I do not find a job after being type rated, you will see me at the CAA grading your ATPL exams.:}

quit now or type rating?
 

Hi guys,

Same story, 31, quit job, sold house, etc
Came to USA to get FAA and build some time as FI, I was lucky and now I have around 850, SE and ME.

Time to go back to Europe and I'd like to now how many pilots who decide to pay Type rating actually find a job, 100%, 50%,??

Could anybpdy tell me if it really worth it? Pay some much money and get hired? Or is just another marketing technique to make us pay and pay untill extenuation.

thanks in advance

@ pedroe,

That's the big unanswered question here on pprune. I would be interested in those numbers too. You read/hear so many different stories. Seems to work though in many cases.

cheers

hmmmm
 

my question is why are these low houred guys not becoming flight instructors and building time that way, much cheaper then a 320 rating, and you get command even if its single and light twin time..

I spoke to a chief pilot of a major uk charter co last week about the various routes in.I mentioned instructing and he reckoned someone with 1000 hrs on cessnas/pipers etc isn't really any better prepared for an airline job than a circa 250/300 hr pup.

From their point of view if they get 2 applicants one with lots of hours and one with low hours,both with no relevant type rating (and all other things being equal) then the low houred guy is preferred as he will be on a lesser wage (until 1500hrs) therefore cheaper for the company.Less likely that a young pup will be set in his/her own bad habits also.

I was quite suprised by his reply but has made me reconsider the FI route!

Yorks

yorky drifet,
ur right,
what would you take if you were an employer: the guy with 2000 hour on c152 or the guy with 400h TT and 60 hours A320 and type rating. (the guy with 2000h is more mature, more experienced,...)

what guy will cost more to train????I let you guess!
answer :it is all about MONEY!!!!

actually there are not so many jobs, I hope it will be better in a few months, (few years), look at the # of airbus sold,Look at china, eastern countries, ...

THe futur sounds bright, the futur sound _____ (fill with what you want!!!)

Spaceman, you surely have changed your opinion..
Where have you decided to do your rating?

I've just gota job with BACX. They have paid for my type rating and bonded me for 2 years. Before I was offered the job I did gliding towing for 9 months, unpaid, and instructing for a year on really poor money.

I didn't get all my ATPL exams first time. I didn't get my IR first time.

I'm new to pprune. However I've seen alot of threads on the best way to get a job. Should it be modular, should it be integrated.

In my PERSONAL opinion, paying for your own type ratings is crazy. I don't have a degree in stating the obvious but I'm pretty sure I would get a first.

It's taken me a long hard slog to get this job and It was a year before I heard anything form the date I filled out the online application form.

Best of luck to all who are looking for jobs at the moment.

yorky drifter

Ho Ho Ho..!

I know of at least 6 UK airlines that have taken on Instructors in the past 9 months.

Here's a clue.........Why do you think that BMI Regional and BACX raised the bar to 500 hours minimum TT last month. See redflyer's response to answer that.

That Chief Pilot whom you spoke to told you those things then. Ask him again in 4 months and he will say something completely different