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SamKitch 24th May 2005 14:50

Ryan Air Good Or Bad
 
Dear anyone

Ive been looking around this website, very good may i add.

What Is Everybodys view on working for Ryan Air?

Personally i think there a really good company love there style.

Also any pilots who work for Ryan Air what do you think?

Thank You

Very Much

Sam

Lolo737 24th May 2005 15:00

Are you taking the mick?

An application form that requires your credit card details prior to asking about your flying qualifications...

https://frd.ie/pilot/pilot.html

...says it all I think.

eoincarey 24th May 2005 21:24

gotta agree with lolo on this one mate.

Dig a little deeper, you'll find a company that regularly abuses its staff, and is managed by the most despotic man in Ireland (Michael O Leary). Hell, he even charges disabled people for their wheelchairs to and from the flights, and he also charges his staff to charge their mobile phones!!

He's a nasty piece of work, and his airline is little better.
Look elsewhere

ETC

Mister Geezer 24th May 2005 22:24

I personally would not touch Ryanair with a bargepole. However it's horses for courses and the time to join them was a few years ago when you had your rating paid for by the company and despite the basic salary being very low the flight pay was very good and that really bumped up your salary.

If you want to fly for them then you need deep pockets because the the near future more money will be going out that there is coming in on your pay slip!

Olof 25th May 2005 07:04

Well that's not really true is it? I mean sure it's a low cost carrier but once your in the salaray is exellent. The fact that you have to pay for a coffe onboard as a pilot is a different matter though :eek:

Hansol 25th May 2005 07:20

No free water on board but brand new aircraft and the possibility of a swift command.

scroggs 25th May 2005 09:49

Olof you think the salary is 'excellent' at Ryanair? Read this thread , particularly the post from Wonder Boy I've quoted in the first post.

Scroggs

CIPO 25th May 2005 16:47

Yawn yawn yawn.
Here's all the Ryanair bashers rubing their hands with another opportunity to slag off the company.
I really hope the one's saying they wouldn't touch the company have a job cause boy is that foolish attitude if they don't.
So what if you have to pay for a type rating, your not going to be stuck without a job with a 737 3-900 TR on your licence. You'll have 500hrs in 5 months, if your still not happy then bugger off.
After a year you'll be earning near £3000stg net a month, 5 on 3 off. No spilt shifts and alternate 5 earlies and 5 lates.

And btw, don't see junior doctors getting paid too much for 100hr weeks............

Come on guys, it's not that bad a deal.

ps. Have fun being choosey. In 12 months i'll have 1000hrs 737NG, then you can be choosey..............

Rednex 25th May 2005 21:20

Well said CIPO, agree 100% 2,000 on type now, good pay increase, great guys and gals to fly with. One would be a fool to turn down a chance at Ryanair.:ok:

Mister Geezer 25th May 2005 22:57

I will stick to my 500 hours a year job... very civilised!:D

Seriously... the problem is with Ryanair is the shafting you get before you join. Having to pay for everything under the sun and starting on a not so fantastic salary once you start on line. Money may be good in the long run but if you didn't have to pay for your rating then it really would be financially worthwhile. If you offset £20,000 over time then you are not any better off than any other operator in the UK.

We are all different but FR has never been my cup of tea, however there are those who do enjoy it and good for them!:ok: Company is deep into the black and lots of more aircraft coming so the future will be bright.

PPRuNe Towers 25th May 2005 23:20


So what if you have to pay for a type rating, your not going to be stuck without a job with a 737 3-900 TR on your licence. You'll have 500hrs in 5 months, if your still not happy then bugger off
Ummmmm, hesitate to offer logic but about that buggering off Cipo? How do you do that if son of Cipo with 200 hours is willing to pay for a rating and even a few hundred hours on the line at your target airlines?

A lot of you are not thinking beyond getting your backside on a seat, any seat, at any cost. Many, many holes are being dug.

Rob

Mister Geezer 25th May 2005 23:32


So what if you have to pay for a type rating, your not going to be stuck without a job with a 737 3-900 TR on your licence.
Wish it was that easy for everyone. I am sure we would be all alarmed if we did a poll to establish how many people were still unemployed after paying for their own rating!

SamKitch 26th May 2005 14:57

I belive that Ryan Air are a very good company and will be applying to them in the future.

Thank You

wheelbarrow 26th May 2005 17:34

sam kitch



Good luck if you want to work for Ryanair.

I am glad you have set your sights so high.

Well done.

cornerstone 26th May 2005 18:21

i've been working for ryanair for some time now, and i don't know what it's like to be looking for an airline job these days. my advice to anyone looking for a job at fr is to look elsewhere, it really is a horrible little company. do what you can to get a job with some other outfit.
and to the kids who have been there a year or less, open your eyes, take the longview or enjoy being screwed, you will be.

atyourcervix73 26th May 2005 18:24

I see they are still charging £50 to apply, and £200 for a SIM assessment.......I bet they've got the muppets lining up to part with their cash.:rolleyes: :yuk:

scroggs 27th May 2005 09:05

Cipo and others might like to do a bit of investigation on this board about Ryanair, as viewed by those who've been in the company for more than five minutes. My impression is that all is far from rosy, and Ryanair's blatant exploitation of wannabes is liitle short of criminal. But hey, Cipo, you've bought your job, why worry about anyone else? :rolleyes:

Scroggs

Dan Winterland 28th May 2005 01:19

Low cost operaters are not really 'low cost'. 'Low overheads' would be a more accurate description. As a pilot, you are an overhead.

But Ryanair seems to have taken 'low overheads' a step further where the employees have become a source of income.

michaelknight 28th May 2005 10:52

Scroggs,

Charity begins at home.

MK

eoincarey 28th May 2005 13:41

To SAMKITCH

At the end of the day it is your decision, you're free to run your life as you wish. But it does sound like you're a little oblivious to all the nasty stuff at Ryanair. Before making a decision like this, look a little bit further than all the crap they put on their website about their employees being their "number one asset". Every airline says that, they have to really, but Ryanair is not one of those airlines that actually values its employees.

All I ask is that you do a little more research on them before accepting everything they say about themselves at face value. For instance, do a google search for Ryanair. You'll find many ongoing and past court cases involving Ryanair involving complaints from customers and staff alike. In fact, Michael O Leary is in the Dublin High Court at the moment over something to do with poor treatment of staff (theres more information about that elsewhere on this site).
Look around on the internet, i believe there is actually a website dedicated to staff who campaign for a fairer workplace at Ryanair, mainly because of the airlines complete disregard for the workers Unions.
There are also many web pages full of passenger complaints about the airline, because of the cavalier and "cattle herding" approach they take to their customers.

Its your decision mate, but it would seem that you've accepted all the lovy dovy self descriptions of Ryanair at face value, and perhaps you should read a bit more into it. I was in your position a while ago when I was thinking of airlines to apply to, and I did my homework. I found Ryanair to be a really nasty place to work, and its at the bottom of my Employment wish list! I know you may think theyre a quick way in to the industry, but they're really not.

Remember, 20k is a lot of money. Dont you want to go with your eyes wide open before you spend that amount of dosh?

Regards

ETC


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