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Oscar Juliet 13th Nov 2004 10:19

You'll be pleased to know that there aren't any verbal reasoning questions!

Lord Daddy Flash 13th Nov 2004 21:16

Verbal reasoning
 
The Moog...

Stage two consists of a group discussion to test interpersonal skills and the computer based aptitude tests (hand-eye co-ordination, visual interpretaiton, mental capacity etc).

LDF

FlyingTom 14th Nov 2004 21:45

I had a very pleasant day in a sim in Nursling today. I have to say that if I had to start my training all over again the facilities at CTC blow the socks off everything else out there. I trained at Cabair and Oxford.

Also in case anyone doesn't know the age limit is 34 for applicants with fATPL's.

Good luck to everyone applying to CTC, you won't be dissapointed.

The Moog 14th Nov 2004 22:41

Verbal reasoning testing at CTC stage 2
 
Many thanks OJ & LDF for the info....am pleased to hear that they are not at stage 2!

one less thing to focus on!

The Moog :D

Sweeney 16th Nov 2004 14:58

Thanks LDF, appreciate your comments.

I guess I had some difficulty with the joystick-based computer tests rather than the mental capacity tests and often overcompensated on some parts when I felt the test was running away from me. Probably due to a combination of nerves and lack of video game expertise!

Cheers,
Sweeney

jonjon 20th Nov 2004 21:28

Hi,

A quick question...I am thinking of applying but I saw on their website that really it's only Easyjet and Thomas Cook that joined their program. This is really good except that at nearly 28, I am well over the limit.

Does anyone know if CTC have contacts with other airlines?

Thanks

J

Vee One...Rotate 20th Nov 2004 21:41

jonjon,

I believe the age limit is 30 years old...that's what it says on the website.

Not sure what Thomas and Easy being the only current partnership airlines has to do with your age concern...?

I'm sure CTC are interested in getting more airlines onboard but at the moment it's Thomas and Easy. CTC's facilities can't be used by those not on their schemes so it doesn't really matter what contacts CTC have the other airlines...as a prospective cadet.

Regards,

V1R

BoraBora007 21st Nov 2004 06:47

jonjon I think you should have a closer read of the website. If your 28 you'll go into the ATP pool. So have a search on pprune and find out who recruits from that............

jonjon 21st Nov 2004 10:11

V1R, Borabora007

Thanks for your replies.

Easy and Thomas have age limits of 25 or 26 so I would not be eligible if I succeeded. That's why I am asking about other airlines.

I read the bit about the holding pool but that does not mean much to me:

"Therefore, cadets who have not yet been selected by an Airline will usually enter a “holding pool” after completing Intermediate Training, and proceed to Advanced Training once selected. "

But the only airlines are Easy and Thomas apparently so no good for anyone close the 30.

Maybe I am missing the point here but unless more airlines join the scheme, isn't this program just like any other FTO (once again this only applies to older applicants so don't go for the jugular :-)?


I could re-phrase my initial question:

Do you know of anyone aged 27-30 who got selected and then got a job?

Thanks
J

Vee One...Rotate 21st Nov 2004 13:19

jonjon,

My mistake - I stand corrected.

I wasn't aware that Thomas and Easy had age limits for their cadets - I presumed that if CTC said 30 and CTC are currently allied with Thomas and Easy, then it was a consensus among the three...evidently not. Seems a bit odd doesn't it?

I suppose one of the differences of CTC when compared with some other FTOs is that its a one-stop-shop as you get a type rating as well. Also, there's a good guarantee (esp. if selected by an airline) of walking straight to the front of a jet after training.

I can't comment on the situation for applicants near the age limit...anyone?

Best of luck,

V1R

Simon_Sez 21st Nov 2004 14:00

Hello all...

Apologies for the lack of an update. Sometimes life takes over and one has little control.
This is slightly off the current topic of age limits in the CTC Wings scheme, so apologies for that.
Unfortunately, I am now another statistic in the increasing list of Stage 3 rejects. Had my Stage 3 about 2 weeks ago now, and as enjoyable as the day was, it is a tad disappointing to have been unsuccessful. However!
The plan now is the structured modular route. Superior Pilot Services in SA to get JAA PPL and hour building, the The Pilot Training College of Ireland for ME/IR CPL fATPL. Been i contact with both schools, and more importantly, past pupils of each, and the level of positive feedback has been pleasantly surprising.

So anyway, I just thought I'd fill those that know me in on what was happening.

We shall chat again, but maybe a little less in this forum!

Regards,

Simon.

Vee One...Rotate 21st Nov 2004 14:03

That's unfortunate Simon. I feel for you...but you'll be fine with that attitude (tenuous pun intended). Plan B it is.

Best of luck,

V1R :ok:

Simon_Sez 21st Nov 2004 14:59

Thanks V1R,

Good to hear from you again. How are things going with you?

(Currently trying to book my flights to JHB...exciting!!) :} <- I love this smiley

Regards,

Simon.

Vee One...Rotate 21st Nov 2004 15:32

Simon_Sez,

Currently muddling on through "Plan A" - finished uni in June, now working full-time and doing my PPL over the next 7-8 months or so...before trying this whole sponsorship malarky :bored:

PPL's going great - just under 5 hours in the ol' logbook so far so still a long way to go yet...but I start circuits next week :O

Regards fellow wannabes,

V1R

Mr.Fly 21st Nov 2004 20:33

Stage 2
 
Hi Everybody!
I am going for stage 2 on Dec. 7th!
Does anybody else?
Would you guys be so kind and let me know more what to expect at Stage 2?

How long it takes?
What is the group exercise? How many people? What does CTC give points for?
What is the apt test about? Do I have to know anything about flying? Do they check my psychic and mental abilities or knowledge of aircraft systems and equipment?
Numeracy test - how many questions? On what subjects?
What to prepare for?
Do day ask any questions at this Stage?
Do they fail anybody at Stages 1a/1b, or they just let everyone to Stage 2 to get some money?
Would you call the tests "hard", "Moderate" or "Easy"
Regards and thank you so much in advance.
Mr. Fly

CB1 21st Nov 2004 22:39

Mr fly check your pm's

gareth08 22nd Nov 2004 21:04

Guys and girls - for anyone going on to stage 3 for the interview, a really good book to read is 'How to get a place on an airline pilot training scheme' by Sam Maybrey. You can buy it from the Transair pilot shop, i think they have an online store as far as i can remember.

I used it for the CTC interview and got through the selection. It has a couple of pages of questions that you are very likely to get asked. Most of the stuff they ask you though is all about getting to know you as a person, how you think and act and what you would do in situations. Why you picked subjects at school and extra cirricular activities and so on and so on. So all you can do is be yourself and come accross positive. If you lie through your teeth, you will only end up tripping yourself up!

Do beef up your knowledge on the current airline industry, as well as your aircraft general knowledge, basic stuff you can find on the airlines website. The rest is up to you as a person. The assessors and selection staff are really nice friendly people, and they really do put you at ease on the day, so just relax and enjoy the experience (easy to say i know) but at the end of the day when you relax you will shine through, rather than being a sweaty nervous wreck.

Good luck all!!

Mr.Fly 22nd Nov 2004 22:16

Gareth did you pass through Stage 3?

Vee One...Rotate 22nd Nov 2004 22:46


for anyone going on to stage 3 for the interview, a really good book to read is...

I used it for the CTC interview and got through the selection
Think that's your answer Mr. Fly!

V1R

maybe 23rd Nov 2004 17:48

Hey, I'm going for stage 2 selection on 14th December.

Anyone know the best place to stay in Bournemouth? Is the test centre actually AT the airport or does it just somehow have that address?

I'm coming from Edinburgh so need to stay for 2 nights because it takes basically a whole day to travel :( Only way I've figured out so far is to drive to Prestwick then fly ryanair to bournemouth... that or 4 train changes. Anyone know of a better way?

Also, are the aptitude tests like the tests for any other job? i.e. working out percentages, interpreting graphs etc? Or are they flying specific?

Is this day just for the presentation and some tests + group discussion, or do they interview too?

One other thing, do any of the tests involve doing things with your feet? I'm female so would probably wear low heels, but if I need to work pedals or anything then I need to know!!

Sorry for all the questions but hopefully other people are wondering the same things! Thanks :)


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