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Old 14th Sep 2021, 12:00
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Jobs for non EU cadet pilots.

Hi Everyone,

​​​​​​Just like this thread started as a first time post for someone, this is my first post here. I'd like to know the status of the EU market for a non EU person at the moment.

​​​​​I'm from India, and I'm set to do an integrated ATPL course at an academy "FlyBy Aviation Academy" from Spain. After the completion of the course I'll have a CPL with approx 240 hrs flight time, with no IR.

​​​​​I'd like to work in EU for a regional airline to get my ATPL unfrozen and to build hours. Is there a provision that allows me to do that? Or how hard is it to land a job in an airline as a foreign fresher? Is it doable or am I expecting too much? Any advice is appreciated.
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Old 14th Sep 2021, 14:40
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If you don't have work permit in EU it is not possible. Otherwise this thread wouldn't exist.
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Old 14th Sep 2021, 17:56
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There is thousands of European pilots unemployed right now, plus you cannot work in the EU without a citizenship or working permit, so the market for a non EU person is non existent at the moment.

Also I will recommend you to do the IR course as it is one of the requirements for most airlines when they hire.
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 01:12
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Yes I understand. I was asking as to the difficulty of getting one down the line when I complete my training. It's in about 15 months.
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 01:17
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SolenoidHi, Yeah IR isn't included in the course that they're offering, but they do have a APS MCC crew standard certification, that might help initially? Also, I'm just starting, and the course is about 14 months long. I was hoping the industry will be a lot different then. Maybe then if some airline considers a non EU National with a EASA license, will getting a work visa be that difficult still?
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 05:15
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No work visa = no work

No IR = VFR only … not many airlines work that way

change your plans and save your money.
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 05:32
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Hi Dude: IR it's mandatory in order to be considered for an airline Pilot position. Also VFR operations conducted in some companies (es: TMA) require an IR rating as requirement to apply for.
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 07:21
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Crikey……is it even possible to get a frozen ATPL without an IR?
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 08:03
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I am quite sure the training course in that Spanish school includes an IR. The poster needs to read carefully.
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 09:12
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A work visa would just let you work out of one country, so not very attractive for an airline.
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 10:19
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Varman you need to look very carefully at what's being offered, it sounds very fishy to me.

1. There is no such thing as a frozen ATPL without an IR.
2. An integrated ATPL course is less than 200 hours - that's the whole point of integrated.
3. I have no idea what you'd be doing that would lead to 240 hours with no IR.
4. Any modular school will give you a CPL/IR with 200 hours for half the price.

​​​​​​More hours won't get you a job, unless those hours are on type, so an airline will look at 200/240/1000 hours exactly the same. As for getting a job, it's pretty unlikely even with the right to live and work. You'd have better luck in the US, where you can train and work as an instructor for a few years.
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 11:51
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I reckon if the OP is from India and he has that sort of coin to blow on flight training, instead he could live in India like a King for a very long time. The piloting caper for new pilots is a mugs game I reckon. Skip the flying training idea and live like a King instead,
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Old 15th Sep 2021, 12:14
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Hi Varman, In order to find a job with an airline you need IR and MCC course.
Also, not a single European airline will sponsor a working VISA as there is always plenty of European pilots available.
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