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Desperate for a Job

Old 28th Jul 2019, 00:45
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Desperate for a Job

Dear Memebers;

Iím Puriy0 am Iranian citizen currently in Moscow, Russia. I hold a South African CAA issued CPL-ME license since early 2018.

For the past year and half I looked desperately for Jobs, my parents stopped supporting me since I chose aviation against their interest and failed to find a job.

Also my nationality has done nothing good for me either. Iím a soldier back home and have to attend military before applying for any aviation jobs which are near to impossible for me as Iím not a muslim and from a muslim background and lived all my life abroad which gives me a high chance of failing the initial background check. Further I did apply for some airlines that my friends with other nationalities applied in Dubai and Sharjah(UAE) but I got rejected because of being Iranian (As told by the HR people that my friend knew)

I did my course in an Integrated manner and successfully finished it with 70PIC hours.

I been reading this forum for a long time now and I thought maybe some of you who are more experienced can help me build my future...

I will be grateful if someone can guide me through these desperate time.

Regards,
Puriy0
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Old 28th Jul 2019, 12:38
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What a mess this is. Did you not consider what your options were going to be before you started? All I can suggest is pay2fly in Asia or some bush flying jobs in Africa perhaps.
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Old 28th Jul 2019, 13:00
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Interesting situation.
Since you have not ďgraduatedĒ from an airline owned academy your chances of a job are virtually zero.
Especially in Europe as you do not hold an EASA license or a work permit.
Best bet is to go back to Africa and find a bush flying job till you get to 1000-1200 hrs then try again.
Iíve known people that have flown Let410 in Cameroon or Ivory Coast and people that have flown tourists in Botswana.
Read the Africa forum here on PPRuNe.
Radical alternative is to apply for asylum in a NW European country and convert your licenses.
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Old 28th Jul 2019, 13:33
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Originally Posted by B2N2 View Post
Interesting situation.
Since you have not ďgraduatedĒ from an airline owned academy your chances of a job are virtually zero.
Especially in Europe as you do not hold an EASA license or a work permit.
Best bet is to go back to Africa and find a bush flying job till you get to 1000-1200 hrs then try again.
Iíve known people that have flown Let410 in Cameroon or Ivory Coast and people that have flown tourists in Botswana.
Read the Africa forum here on PPRuNe.
Radical alternative is to apply for asylum in a NW European country and convert your licenses.
The issue for him there is that it will take an extremely long time and his case for asylum will be very weak. Notwithstanding the fact that he will have to redo all his ATPL exams and check flights at a substantial cost. Bush flying is the best thing this guy can get.
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Old 28th Jul 2019, 14:35
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Originally Posted by Officer Kite View Post
What a mess this is. Did you not consider what your options were going to be before you started? All I can suggest is pay2fly in Asia or some bush flying jobs in Africa perhaps.

I havenít started training yet as I am considering what will happen with me after finishing my training. I am from Egypt and I know it will be hard if not impossible to find a job here in my country so what shall I do to achieve my dream? I have been searching for a cadet program with any price for years now with out finding anyone. Even alpha aviation academy which is the most expensive academy I have ever seen, didnít accept me because of my nationality! I donít know what to do and I am very afraid of wasting my money to take the licences and then end at my home jobless.

Also, I tried to move on with life and remove aviation out of my head but I couldnít. I didnít find any other thing interesting or amazes me as aviation. After all of that thereís some people come here to the pilots who pay to fly to get the required experience and say to them you ruin the industry!! go and a find anyway for them to achieve their dreams and then talk. Come and have there useless nationality and try to be a pilot.
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Old 28th Jul 2019, 16:50
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Originally Posted by mohammdashraf View Post



I havenít started training yet as I am considering what will happen with me after finishing my training. I am from Egypt and I know it will be hard if not impossible to find a job here in my country so what shall I do to achieve my dream? I have been searching for a cadet program with any price for years now with out finding anyone. Even alpha aviation academy which is the most expensive academy I have ever seen, didnít accept me because of my nationality! I donít know what to do and I am very afraid of wasting my money to take the licences and then end at my home jobless.

Also, I tried to move on with life and remove aviation out of my head but I couldnít. I didnít find any other thing interesting or amazes me as aviation. After all of that thereís some people come here to the pilots who pay to fly to get the required experience and say to them you ruin the industry!! go and a find anyway for them to achieve their dreams and then talk. Come and have there useless nationality and try to be a pilot.
I'm not very sure I can really help you, but don't try to remove aviation from your head, if it is what you really want ! I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of flight academy spread in all the world, and if you really want it, there will be of course a way to do it !
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 21:01
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Your situation seems a bit messy, but sure you still can try some ways!
I had a friend who worked in kish air on the a320, but he is european with easa licence...
bush flying could be an option, and people I met who have done it have really a few bad words about it.
What about instruction in south africa?
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Old 27th Aug 2019, 22:15
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Hey guys,

I am more or less in the same situation, but with EASA license. I need to find a job to start flying again ASAP, so I will be grateful if anyone can propose/recommend any position for an Iranian passport holder, low timer(fresh out of FTO) and w/o unlimited right to work and live in the EU!
Thanks in advance.

Cheers
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Old 28th Aug 2019, 00:59
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I have sympathy for you guys, unfortunately can't offer advice, I can say though keep trying, after I finished my CPL back in the early 00's things were dire back in Canada for a newbie... ended up in SE Asia flying for a few years for a carrier lets say not so reputable (and now out of business), it did however get me some 737 time, they were strange days, but mostly good.

Look not to Europe (for the present) but further afield, my sincere advice, which worked well for me, was to directly contact the CP of smaller companies and convince them to see me. Now, if you are willing to fly half way around the world for an interview at your own expense you will find quite a bit of sympathy and willingness to go the extra mile for you. I'd go as far as to say you are 50% the way there.

Forget mailing CV's... you'll join hundreds of 200hr newbies... call, call, call and get that interview... believe me only 1 in 100 will do such a thing... and it pays off.

Sound advice on Africa... again the personal touch goes a LONG way.....
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Old 17th Sep 2019, 10:41
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Thank you for posting this thread.

There are supposedly lots of license holders who didnt get a job - but not many of them are posting about it.

Good thing you are telling your story
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