SunExpress Turkey

[todisflying]

can you switch to sxd from the turkey one, once you gained experience if you speak german?

[Hogos]

I just did the english test, very straightforward, it's made of 5 parts:
-Grammar
-Listening
-Reading
-Writing
-Speaking

Ensure to have camera, mic, headset, and a paper and pen to write some notes during the listening, and of course 2h where you are free and undisturbed !!
Not like me where in the middle of the speaking the rooster started crowing !
At least they might appreciate my "country side"

[GomuGomuPilot]

Originally Posted by Hogos

I just did the english test, very straightforward, it's made of 5 parts:
-Grammar
-Listening
-Reading
-Writing
-Speaking

Ensure to have camera, mic, headset, and a paper and pen to write some notes during the listening, and of course 2h where you are free and undisturbed !!
Not like me where in the middle of the speaking the rooster started crowing !
At least they might appreciate my "country side"

Haha thats nice, I love country side too but I live in a city.
Anyway thats good atleast they send you something. I got nothing back from them I applied beginning of July. They said they will send me an invitation to an English test but nothing so far. Will wait two more weeks then will try to contact them again. Thanks for the feed back tho. Keep us upto date if you can thank you again.

[lhc7664]

Originally Posted by B77F

Anyone applied through SXS directly?

I applied directly through SunExpress, but back in March. Donīt know if its different now.

Got an invitation afterwards for an online English test.
A few days after I was invited to the Mollymawk in Antalya - then Sim a few weeks after and finally the board interview also in Antalya.

The entire process took about 2 months from i received the first email from them.

[Hogos]

Originally Posted by lhc7664

I applied directly through SunExpress, but back in March. Donīt know if its different now.

Got an invitation afterwards for an online English test.
A few days after I was invited to the Mollymawk in Antalya - then Sim a few weeks after and finally the board interview also in Antalya.

The entire process took about 2 months from i received the first email from them.

May I ask you some questions ?
Is the recruitment done in 3 separate days ? (i mean do we need to travel 3 times to Antalya ?)

Is the interview difficult ?
Do you know something about the pass rate ?
Call it bad luck or what, I went through very low pass rate recruitments, where nobody passed, collecting bad news all around europe, and I spent a lot of money.
I would like to consider this option only if there are good possibilities

[Rocket61]

Originally Posted by Hogos

May I ask you some questions ?
Is the recruitment done in 3 separate days ? (i mean do we need to travel 3 times to Antalya ?)

Is the interview difficult ?
Do you know something about the pass rate ?
Call it bad luck or what, I went through very low pass rate recruitments, where nobody passed, collecting bad news all around europe, and I spent a lot of money.
I would like to consider this option only if there are good possibilities

I can't answer all of your questions, but yes you will need to travel 3 times to Antalya, if I'm not wrong (but feel free to correct me if necessary) you have to pay for the 1st trip to attend the mollymawk exam (and pay for the mollymawk fees, which are pretty expensive) but if you pass they should pay for your two next trips to Antalya and provide you with preferential fares for the hotel.

[Hogos]

Rocket61 thank you for the answer.
How is the Mollymawk ? is it similar to the DLR ?

I'm preparing the DLR, and I read somewhere that it could be recognised, but I'm not sure.

[lhc7664]

Originally Posted by Hogos

May I ask you some questions ?
Is the recruitment done in 3 separate days ? (i mean do we need to travel 3 times to Antalya ?)

Is the interview difficult ?
Do you know something about the pass rate ?
Call it bad luck or what, I went through very low pass rate recruitments, where nobody passed, collecting bad news all around europe, and I spent a lot of money.
I would like to consider this option only if there are good possibilities

It is done in three separate steps. However SunExpress provide flight tickets with SXS and also has a good deal on the hotel rate.
I have only been through two selection processes - the last one fortunately with a successful outcome. I must admit that I did find it really pleasurable dealing with SunExpress during the entire process! Really great people - a very nice atmosphere at the "Plaza" - great instructor during the sim screening and overall just left me with a really good feeling. Unlike some other airlines around (As far as Iīve been told)

To answer the question whether itīs worth it or not - well thatīs in my opinion quite easy... Do you WANT the job or not? If you want it - like REALLY WANT it - then go for it, and go for it 110%
The pass rate is quite narrow - specially for the Mollymawk - but if you train for it, you can do it!

You will be able to ace what youīre putting your energy into. So do you wanīt to nail the DLR? Then train for the DLR. If you wanīt to nail the Mollymawk, then train for the Mollymawk. All you can!
There is a thread here on this forum regarding the Mollymawk. Also take a little time to search google for turkish pilot forums - there might be something of interest there.

[Hogos]

lhc7664 Thank you for the reply.

I'm pretty sure, even if I haven't gone there, that the environment is very nice, good people, and it's needless to say that I would love that job.
The reason why I asked if there are good possibilities to get it, is because if there are, you can prepare it more willingly, rather than an "impossible" job.

For example, it's quite frustrating to do my best for preparing an assessment, when only 10% get it.

[Hawker400]

Thanks for your info! Can you tell me about how much you spent in total for the stages with Sunexpress? I just passed the first OSM stage (kind of preliminary but still) I would like to try sunexpress, but only if the cost permits. I'm in another hold pool at the moment, but I'm not into putting all my eggs in one basket. I can easily say it was +1000€ for that one.

Also with the type-rating coming from the salary how much do you expect to take home? (You can DM me if you want) PJN gives a summary but doesn't specify before or after type costs.

I heard you get a place during training + 500€ take-home, if you can confirm?

Sorry for the load of questions and congratulations for passing the stages.

I'm totally on board with living in Turkey and the lower cost of living + myidtravel (if it's still the case with THY and LH?) is a decent offer.

[lhc7664]

Originally Posted by Hogos

lhc7664 Thank you for the reply.

I'm pretty sure, even if I haven't gone there, that the environment is very nice, good people, and it's needless to say that I would love that job.
The reason why I asked if there are good possibilities to get it, is because if there are, you can prepare it more willingly, rather than an "impossible" job.

For example, it's quite frustrating to do my best for preparing an assessment, when only 10% get it.

I understand.. If you train for it, youīll have a much higher chance of getting through than 10%..

Also mind that the company actually provides free tickets with SXS to and from the assessments. They provide free transportation from the hotel to the assessment. And the sim is done in a full motion 737 simulator! Bottom line is that they actually invest a lot in the candidates, so I really do believe that they wanīt them all to pass and get all the way through..

[lhc7664]

Originally Posted by Hawker400

Thanks for your info! Can you tell me about how much you spent in total for the stages with Sunexpress? I just passed the first OSM stage (kind of preliminary but still) I would like to try sunexpress, but only if the cost permits. I'm in another hold pool at the moment, but I'm not into putting all my eggs in one basket. I can easily say it was +1000€ for that one.

Also with the type-rating coming from the salary how much do you expect to take home? (You can DM me if you want) PJN gives a summary but doesn't specify before or after type costs.

I heard you get a place during training + 500€ take-home, if you can confirm?

Sorry for the load of questions and congratulations for passing the stages.

I'm totally on board with living in Turkey and the lower cost of living + myidtravel (if it's still the case with THY and LH?) is a decent offer.

The hotel was 45 Euro if I remember correctly. And I was fortunate enough to have SunExpress flights from my home city to Antalya almost daily so flight tickets were provided free of charge. You do have to pay for the Mollymawk though which was 150 Euro.

Iīm still waiting for a start date and a contract, so I donīt know anything specific about take home pay etc. yet. However they provide hotel during training + first week on assigned base after completing training. And I can confirm the 500 Euro during training.

[Hawker400]

Thanks for the information! Hope your contract comes soon

[stoneangel]

3 separate steps....even though it is paid by the company it is not so convenient when we get a job :/ ....how many off days to ask for one stage ? 3 off maybe ?

[polskiland]

Originally Posted by stoneangel

3 separate steps....even though it is paid by the company it is not so convenient when we get a job :/ ....how many off days to ask for one stage ? 3 off maybe ?

Expenses paied by the company full motion sim, one of the few still recruiting and still complaining, your username really checks out doesn't it

[stoneangel]

yeah but, nowadays, some online tests could be done from home....no need to pollute the air more than necessary, don't think so? it's nonsense. What's the technology for ?
Yes you're right, Im sure Snexpress is flexible and let its pilots to leave anytime on request to take any selection as well.

[James Ken McIntosh]

Have the requirements changed?

Looking at PJN

your required to have a

University Degree
Be a Turkish Citizen

is is it true?

[Prospective_Pilot]

B77WPilot Hey I've been invited for the Mollymawk assessment on the 27 as well. Are you using any other preparation software for the 3 aptitude tests (Time Sharing, Working Memory, Spatial Orientation) apart from the official site itself? Thanks.

[stoneangel]

I think it's true, they ask turkish nationality...
It is similar with air astana : they hire through agency, and in the ads you see NTR pilots and then suddenly they ask Type rated !
something wrong somewhere

[Hawker400]

I'm not sure about the university degree (I haven't been asked for it), But Turkish nationality isn't current info anymore. There's been 2 posters here that were waiting for work permit after completing everything.