Blue Air Guaranteed job program

[Dufo]

Well in Fleet air Hungary you will find majority of pilots are Ukranian nationals flying in validations and work permits. Been there, escaped after a week.
A lot is possible in various combinations of companies and countries.
Cannot imagine this happening in any of the US outfits.

[Krajchek]

Originally Posted by thepilott

That what i thought. My only question is that i have never seen any airline in EU take non-eu citzens, they told me that Rominia is one of the easiest countries to issue a work permit if you have a job contract, is that true?

Hi There. Sorry for late reply. IT is very interesting that based on previous commenter who works there stating there is no such program. However it is advertised on blue air website that the channel is via pilotacademy US. On pilotacademy website shows that any nationals welcomed. I am sure if an airline want to sponsor work visas, they could.
But for this program one must pay the conversion training. I guess this is the business for them in it.

[Yawad]

Hello, How are you?
I will ask you a lot of question and any one who know any information you are more than welcome to answer ( feel free ).

I would like to know did you get to anything with that line training with job offer?, Is it true that they will provide you work permit for non-EU citizens ?
Is the job 100% Guaranteed job ?

How much the program cost? especially if I already have FAA Commercial MultiEngine License with a CFI license too

Thanks in advance for all of you

waiting for your replies.

[mohammdashraf]

Hi,

I still see this program running is there anybody here who applied and in the training or finished it now?.

Please if anyone knows any information about this program provide us with it.

[mohammdashraf]

Originally Posted by thepilott

Hello’

I am wondering if there’s anybody here know’s anything about a guaranteed job program from ATPL Center in US with blue air airline in romania. It sounds to good so if anyone knows if this is real or not please inform us. ATPL center is the official recruiter for Blue Air and the announced this program as follow:

Blue Air and ATPLCentwr join Wayman Aviation Academy in offering a world classEASA Job Guaranteed solution for pilots interested in flying thorugh Europe. The program is 100% job guaranteed, students start flying in Europe within 14 to 18 months.

Earn your Private Pilot (PPL), Instrument Rating (IR), and time building to 200 hours with Wayman in South Florida. After PPL cadets begin online EASA theory studies to master the 14 subject tests. Commercial Single and Multi-engine add-ons are earned in Romania. Then students recieved line and type ratings to begin flying Blue Air's fleet of 737 aircraft throughout Europe.



The program provides USA and European pilot licenses. (FAA PPL and IR & EASA ATPL Frozen).

• Open to Citizens from any country.
• Work Permit for Europe is provided.
• Upon completion of the program, you will be enrolled by Blue Air- Romania with the net salary of $3,000/mo
• Start earning net salary of $1,000/mo during the Line Training even before enrollment.
• Cadets will be enrolled for 1 year minimum. The contract may be extended each year.
• Cadets will be stationed at one of the Blue Air hubs scattered throughout the European Union.
• Upon fulfilling 5-year of service with Blue Air in the same country, you will be eligible for European citizenship.
• US citizens are tax free of their salaries in Europe due to US Tax regulations (ask for details).
• 80hrs flight per month is guaranteed by Blue Air. Extra payment for over-hours.
• Availability to make 1500hrs in 1-2 years, together with training hours results in ICAO ATPL.

Please guys if anyone knows anything about this program tell me as I am about to join it , I will make my Investigation but any personal experience would be appreciated, I don’t wanna lose all what I have for nothing in the end, Please tell me any information if it’s true or not. Thanks in advance

[Vaero]

Going to revive this. I passed the online assessment and I've been invited to an "assessment" in September, apparently there was also one on the 6th of August. If anyone can provide any information as to what happened after that; I'd really appreciate it. I've asked the person I'm in contact with about price and the program but not getting any kind of reply. It really worries me. Either way, going to Bucharest is quite cheap for me so I don't mind that but next month is going to be busy for me so I'd like to know if it's some pay to fly program or actually something legit from some that actually went.

One thing is reassuring at least, is that the person I'm in contact with actually works for Blue Air and is sending me emails from the official Blue Air server, so I got that going, I guess.

[paul_v1]

Originally Posted by Vaero

Going to revive this. I passed the online assessment and I've been invited to an "assessment" in September, apparently there was also one on the 6th of August. If anyone can provide any information as to what happened after that; I'd really appreciate it. I've asked the person I'm in contact with about price and the program but not getting any kind of reply. It really worries me. Either way, going to Bucharest is quite cheap for me so I don't mind that but next month is going to be busy for me so I'd like to know if it's some pay to fly program or actually something legit from some that actually went.

One thing is reassuring at least, is that the person I'm in contact with actually works for Blue Air and is sending me emails from the official Blue Air server, so I got that going, I guess.

Kinda confusing how you dont know the pricing since you are in a contact with someone from the inside. I asked them directly and they told me 26k for 737 Classic and 31k for NG, no job guarantee however.

[Vaero]

Originally Posted by paul_v1

Kinda confusing how you dont know the pricing since you are in a contact with someone from the inside. I asked them directly and they told me 26k for 737 Classic and 31k for NG, no job guarantee however.

Yeh, I asked them and they didnt reply to me, or rather avoiding that question.

The application is for a First Officer though? Foes that mean they only offer a type rating and hours; aka Pay to fly program? Without even a contract? Damn.

When did you ask them this?

[odi123]

Hi all,

I just got invitation for the interview can someone give some info about the from recent interview day how does it looks like?

cheers

[WhatShortage]

Originally Posted by odi123

Hi all,

I just got invitation for the interview can someone give some info about the from recent interview day how does it looks like?

cheers

Are you really wiling to pay 31K for a type rating, 200 hours and being kicked out? Sick man, sick.

[Flyingsnowman]

Well. I also got invited for interview after successfully passing online assessment. I am really sceptic about it though.
Is there anybody who can confirm that they will not guarantee you the job after passing type rating? Paying 31 000 Euros and then stay unemployed with 200 hrs on type is not my dream. Especially if I am already swimming in waiting pool for another serious company.
I am really frustrated about the current conditions in aviation. Airlines behave like if we (the pilots) are not the driving wheel of the whole industry. Pay to fly programs are pretty common nowadays but PAY TO NOT FLY can be considered as SCAM in my opinion. We should man up, group and stop this kind of behaviour and reject these king of "opportunities" together.
Even all comments mentioned above I got still a bit hope about seriousness of this company. Therefore I am asking again in 2020 if anybody got any information which could be useful for us, invited for the assessment.
Thank you guys.

[Kaillou]

I also got invited. At first i wanted to go just for assessment / sim training for potential future assessments but i don't even know if i'm going to spend the money for that. I know for a fact that i will never pay 31K for a type rating with no guaranted job in the end so meh ... why bother ... considering the economic climate at the moment, i don't even know if the company would last during the whole 200 hours ...

[PilotRoger]

P2F again? Don't do it, you will pretty much close your doors for the future.

[wiggy]

Originally Posted by Flyingsnowman

Airlines behave like if we (the pilots) are not the driving wheel of the whole industry.

Guess what, like it or not”..we are not..

Pay to fly programs are pretty common nowadays but PAY TO NOT FLY can be considered as SCAM in my opinion. We should man up, group and stop this kind of behaviour and reject these king of "opportunities" together.

Good luck with organising that,.in my experience most pilots would rather eat their first born rathe than get involved in a collective “manning up”.

[WhatShortage]

Originally Posted by Flyingsnowman

Well. I also got invited for interview after successfully passing online assessment. I am really sceptic about it though.
Is there anybody who can confirm that they will not guarantee you the job after passing type rating? Paying 31 000 Euros and then stay unemployed with 200 hrs on type is not my dream. Especially if I am already swimming in waiting pool for another serious company.
I am really frustrated about the current conditions in aviation. Airlines behave like if we (the pilots) are not the driving wheel of the whole industry. Pay to fly programs are pretty common nowadays but PAY TO NOT FLY can be considered as SCAM in my opinion. We should man up, group and stop this kind of behaviour and reject these king of "opportunities" together.
Even all comments mentioned above I got still a bit hope about seriousness of this company. Therefore I am asking again in 2020 if anybody got any information which could be useful for us, invited for the assessment.
Thank you guys.

They forced unpaid leave to some pilots so, do you think you're on top of them? Just think about it.

[Flyingsnowman]

Originally Posted by WhatShortage

They forced unpaid leave to some pilots so, do you think you're on top of them? Just think about it.

I did not know about it. That is everything i needed to hear.