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Aer Lingus Future Pilot Programme 2018

Old 3rd Jul 2018, 14:37
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Originally Posted by Officer Kite View Post
Not in the race this year, took another opportunity that came up last year ... just offering help where i can based on my previous experience of the programme!
You're very good for keeping the morale up, cheers! Do I remember you saying in a thread (possibly this one) that you got a call weeks after they began calls? Fair play on getting your current role, do you mind me asking what school you went through?
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 17:51
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Originally Posted by Johnnyjd91 View Post
Hi guys,
I have been through the cut e process before with another company (non aviation related). The following is the process used at the assessment centre for that job, maybe this one won't be a million miles away, take from it what you want, it may be of some use:

Group excercise: Divided into teams of 6, set a task of building a lego model, with numerous option and fake currency to buy video instructions on an ipad, a book of instructions, get to view built model for a few moments, the exercise is timed and your a marked as a team on completion time, money left over and accuracy of model. This is only part of it as for every member at the assessment there was a cut e or company rep sitting behind you taking notes on your input/interaction with the group/ability to lead or follow etc.

Role play: you are briefed with a scenario related to the job role, you enter a room with a cut e rep and a company rep and complete the scenario while the company rep pretends to be a client and interacts with you and throws a few curve balls at you to see how you handle the situation whilst the cut e rep marks you.

2 to 1 interview: this one was tricky as the cut e rep conducts a normal job interview covering all the basics and the company rep picks out little bits of info you give and apply them to the job role, but if you change your answer or contradict what you said to the first guy he pulls you on it. Example: I am not a person who deals with confrontation. And you tell the company rep you would be able to deal with a confrontational client or Co worker the cut e guy will refer back to your first statement.
That is basically the mode of the interview where they play you off each other, it's like a minefield but if you stick to your guns you will be fine.

That was the format for the assessment centre for that job in particular, as I said it's probably not going to be identical but this info may help some of ye to prepare.

As for me I'm still waiting.....

thanks Johnnyj , useful and informative - not only for the aviation sector...
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 18:28
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Itís only hearsay but rejection emails are out.
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 18:46
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Whereíd you hear that? Would it not be a blanket email?
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 19:01
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Originally Posted by Magpie32 View Post
Itís only hearsay but rejection emails are out.
Did you hear that from a reputable source?
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 19:47
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Originally Posted by Magpie32 View Post
Itís only hearsay but rejection emails are out.
isn't easier for them to select most of the recipients and send them all in the same time?....the rest of us who did not get called should have received them by now....i don't know...still hoping here ...until this email pops in....
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 20:56
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Originally Posted by K13 View Post
Did you hear that from a reputable source?
An unsuccessful applicant.
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 20:57
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Originally Posted by Black Pudding View Post


Bad idea

You have to remember, you're being watched and accessed how you interact with other people on the day. Meeting others the night before may make you subconsciously act in a way that maybe interpreted wrongly. I suggest you just keep yourself to yourself and leave meeting anyone else until on the day at the selection event.
Nonsence @blackpudding, Iíve worked in Talent Acquisition for 15 years including within EK & we want to see that candidates have social skills & able to communicate not social recluses squirreled away in their rooms prior to assessments!

Good luck to all of you attending & do network away, I assure you networking can only bring success when done in the correct way 😊
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 21:01
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Originally Posted by ana36 View Post
isn't easier for them to select most of the recipients and send them all in the same time?....the rest of us who did not get called should have received them by now....i don't know...still hoping here ...until this email pops in....
Just like AL are calling successful applicants, it may be the case they are now in a position to send rejection emails to those who definately havenít made the grade.

For those who havenít received anything yet (myself being one) there is still hope that the calls arenít finished yet or we are in the Ďmiddle poolí and could still be called at a later date.
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 21:14
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Originally Posted by Magpie32 View Post

An unsuccessful applicant.
so not hearsay. Thatís firsthand information.
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Old 4th Jul 2018, 06:00
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Nothing for me either. Neither phone call nor email. Congrats to all of you that have succeed so far!!
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Old 4th Jul 2018, 07:53
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Hello,

any other rejections received, or phone calls for that matter?

What is Wednesday like?
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Old 4th Jul 2018, 09:29
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I wonder if the unsuccessful emails will have been batched to send at once or?....

Still holding a little bit of hope!
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Old 4th Jul 2018, 10:17
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Anyone heard anything today, good or bad?
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Old 4th Jul 2018, 10:20
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nothing so far. no call no email. sadly i am starting slowly writing it off and returning to my original ATPL books lol
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Old 4th Jul 2018, 11:10
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....

The recruitment team replied to my email this morning. they said they are still processing applications and I will get an update over the next few weeks ... so has anyone really got a call yet at all ?
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Old 4th Jul 2018, 11:11
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Originally Posted by JakubEGSC View Post
nothing so far. no call no email. sadly i am starting slowly writing it off and returning to my original ATPL books lol
I got mail this morning that they are still processing applications and will here over next few weeks ...
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Old 4th Jul 2018, 11:49
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Nothingness

Still nada! Can't make my mind up whether this is a good thing or not but the more it goes on the less likely it seems it is good. Anyone have hope for me? If so speak now please! Also a massive congratulations to everyone through to the next stage!
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Old 4th Jul 2018, 12:45
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Originally Posted by PinkPilot13 View Post


Nonsence @blackpudding, Iíve worked in Talent Acquisition for 15 years including within EK & we want to see that candidates have social skills & able to communicate not social recluses squirreled away in their rooms prior to assessments!

Good luck to all of you attending & do network away, I assure you networking can only bring success when done in the correct way 😊
Read my post again
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Old 4th Jul 2018, 13:29
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Originally Posted by PinkPilot13 View Post


Nonsence @blackpudding, I’ve worked in Talent Acquisition for 15 years including within EK & we want to see that candidates have social skills & able to communicate not social recluses squirreled away in their rooms prior to assessments!

Good luck to all of you attending & do network away, I assure you networking can only bring success when done in the correct way ��








PinkPilot13,

Thank you for your feedback

I'll be more specific for you

Do you as someone who has worked in Talent Acquisition for 15 years including within EK think that meeting up the night before with other candidates in order, and I quote "to get to know each other for the group excercise part of the interview" is a wise thing to do. You call this networking. Would you as a person responsible for recruitment encourage candidates to contact other candidates to do the same thing the night before a selection process involving a group exercise. Do you think it's fair on all candidates to do this. If you knew that some candidates organised to get together the night before in order to get to know each better for the group exercise, would you be happy.

You think Aer Lingus would be happy to know this. I did not think so. They want to see the candidates at the assessment meeting other candidates for the first time. not after an evening together to get to know each other for the group excercise part of the interview

Where did I mention "not social recluses squirreled away in their rooms prior to assessments!"

I always thought a group exercise was to see how you interact with people you have to work with who you have never met before, like when a First Officer meets a Captain for the first time and vice versa. CRM, teamwork, leadership, thinking outside the box etc.

There is only a handful of places on offer and I know for sure, I would be keeping a low profile the night before in a bar socialising with locals, not my competitors. And you may think this is being harsh. Remember, only a handful of positions on offer. You fail, you fail.

Regarding what do I know. I have seen training and test situations where the crew knew each other very well. This lead them to dropping their guard and behaving in a way that was not suitable for the event. I.e. they spoke in a way that was not suitable for the situation and gave the impression of bad CRM. I am guessing that if these Aer Lingus candidates met the night before to get to know each other better for the group exercise, they may drop their guard and behave in a manner that Aer Lingus may take the wrong way. Me, I would not risk it. If I met anyone the night before, yes I would have plenty of beers but under no circumstances would I discuss the selection process at all especially the group exercise. To be honest, I would rather not meet any other candidates until on the day. PinkPilot13, do you get where I'm coming from. So please do let me know your views on my questions to you as you seem to be experienced on this subject.

Yes, networking can only bring success when done in the correct way




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