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Old 4th Nov 2017, 14:14
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Anyone who went to stage 1 application process, what was everyone wearing? Smart casual, suit, normal casual...?
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Old 4th Nov 2017, 17:30
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Thanks Dave for your reply, so there is only Maths test of 25 questions in 15 min at initial stage consist of above, Do you know if Any verbal reasoning test at initial stage too?

Best of luck Mate.
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Old 4th Nov 2017, 19:29
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I'm surprised that they split the maths/aptitude tests and group exercises/interview over two assessment days, unless they are charging for those days separately. From what I know, the maths test takes about twenty minutes, followed by the aptitude tests which can't be any more than an hour. Can't see the reasoning tests taking any more than a couple of hours combined. Group exercises I reckon should be about an hour maximum too.

Could easily put that into a morning followed by an afternoon of interviews.
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Old 4th Nov 2017, 19:35
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Are the questions in the mental maths test identical to the CEGlobal numerical reasoning test or slightly easier (like the maths test you do online for the application?)
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Old 4th Nov 2017, 23:19
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Because only stage 2 (maths/assessments) are charged for. By splitting them, you can get lots of people paying through that stage of assessments. If they were grouped together, it would take up far more personnel time to put that many people through.

They would have made £12000 alone on a stage 2 assessment day because they can have 4 slots of 10 people, paying £295 each.
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Old 5th Nov 2017, 08:37
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Do they charge 295 regardless of whether you make it to the interview bit (Stage 3)? 295 to take a maths test is pure profiteering on L3's part. It would appear that they and BA have lost all shame on that front.

I was at PCL yesterday but nobody from BA Recruitment was there (except a few line pilots who were mainly representing the schools). I expect they didn't have the guts to face a slew of questions asking about finances....

L3 didn't have much info to add that isn't online although tbh, once they confirmed there is no financial support available, I kind of lost interest. They're not even pushing BBVA or other loan products any more. If you haven't got access to 100,000+ in cash or the ability to re-mortgage a property off your (your parents) own back then the general message is that training at one of the "Big 3" schools isn't for you.
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Old 5th Nov 2017, 09:18
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Originally Posted by b_jones7 View Post
Anyone who went to stage 1 application process, what was everyone wearing? Smart casual, suit, normal casual...?
In my group there were 7 people. 5/7 wore suits. I went smart casual as I didn't feel a suit was necessary for looking at a computer screen. Wear whichever you feel more comfortable with.

Originally Posted by high_fly View Post
Thanks Dave for your reply, so there is only Maths test of 25 questions in 15 min at initial stage consist of above, Do you know if Any verbal reasoning test at initial stage too?

Best of luck Mate.
25 questions in 12 minutes (paper based) and then 15 questions in 15 minutes (computer based). Yes, verbal reasoning follows the numerical reasoning. Consists of 36 questions in 20 minutes.


Originally Posted by thisishomebrand View Post
Are the questions in the mental maths test identical to the CEGlobal numerical reasoning test or slightly easier (like the maths test you do online for the application?)
I'd say the same difficulty as CEBGlobal. It is the same company, SHS, who supply the practice and actual test. You will be really pushed for time for the mental maths - it is designed to do this.
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Old 5th Nov 2017, 09:43
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Originally Posted by b_jones7 View Post
Anyone who went to stage 1 application process, what was everyone wearing? Smart casual, suit, normal casual...?
Iím afraid I disagree with the previous answer - of course you should wear a suit!!

Youíre applying for your dream job that you could feasibly do for all of your working life, if you still donít think thatís important enough to wear a suit then thatís a concern.

Absolute worst case scenario when you are wearing a suit is you take the jacket off, worst case scenario when you underdress is you donít get the job based on your appearance.

At these sort of assessment days you will stand out if you go in casual clothes and I guarantee the other candidates there will notice and think youíre mad!
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Old 5th Nov 2017, 11:06
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VariablePitchp is spot on! Honestly it makes me cringe some of the things I read on PPRuNe. You wear smart causal when you meet your friends, if I’m assessing you and you show up without a tie, I’ll send you home. I know that the school will put in their report to the airline , what you were wearing. This is an adult job in mature industry, it goes without saying that you should act and look as such. Remember that British Airways wants you to be an ambassador for their brand, and they want to see someone with high personal standards.
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Old 5th Nov 2017, 11:15
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Originally Posted by DaveBC View Post
25 questions in 12 minutes (paper based) and then 15 questions in 15 minutes (computer based). Yes, verbal reasoning follows the numerical reasoning. Consists of 36 questions in 20 minutes.
So are both the numerical and verbal reasoning paper based tests? As in circle the answer or something like that?
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Old 5th Nov 2017, 14:00
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Originally Posted by thisishomebrand View Post
So are both the numerical and verbal reasoning paper based tests? As in circle the answer or something like that?
Apologises, the mental maths and verbal reasoning are paper based, which involves filling in circles (scantron answer sheets). Numerical reasoning (15 questions in 15 minutes) is computer based and follows the mental maths and verbal reasoning.
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Old 5th Nov 2017, 14:37
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I thought numerical reasoning would be totally different to the LPJ maths test since the LPJ maths test is purely mental maths, did numerical reasoning not include reading off charts, tables and answering questions etc?
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Old 6th Nov 2017, 09:54
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Originally Posted by Jetstream alpha View Post
Just got the email inviting me to assessment at L3. Does anyone have any recommendations for websites to use to practice for the verbal reasoning, maths reasoning and pilot aptitude tests? So far I've been looking at Skytest, Latestpilotjobs and pilotaptitudetest. Would prefer just spending money on one of the websites as they're all quite pricey.
Mate, the LPJ gauge is good, and is not as expensive as the other ones. If you have a week or more to prepare, try to put at least 2 hours per day. If you feel your maths skills aren't up to scratch, I recommend more time. Also look at Vedic math tricks on youtube, it will help you with fast calculations.

Research a list of pilot core competencies and TDODAR, use it during the group exercises. Make sure you let everyone talk but have your inputs too. You want to seem balanced. Interviews, research the STAR technique to answer competency based questions.

Make sure you put points across with enthusiasm and show your passion for the job.

Also, wear a sharp suit and look the part. British Airways is all about brand, you need to show them that you care about your image and that you will represent them well when you put on that shinny Julien McDonald uniform. Put life aside until then and prepare as if you have the means, it is a good opportunity.
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Old 6th Nov 2017, 10:03
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Not arriving in a suit would be committing interview suicide.
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Old 6th Nov 2017, 12:07
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Good afternoon all.


anybody done any online assessments today and had results? I did my Maths this morning but not heard anything, was within half an hour for my SJT.


Good luck all
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Old 6th Nov 2017, 19:39
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Have you heard back from L3 regarding the next stage - heard interviews could be as early as this coming Thursday? Also do you know if the 100 cadets they are looking to take are entirely from this programme or whether they are also tagged Whitetail cadets?
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Old 7th Nov 2017, 07:11
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Hi, i'm just about to start the online assessment, anyone have any details with exactly it entails?
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Old 7th Nov 2017, 08:36
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Yes I have, I heard back within 1.5 hours of finishing my assessment. And yes the first stage 2 is Thursday.
To me it sounded like 100 cadets from this program. They didn’t mention white tail.
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Old 7th Nov 2017, 13:03
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Apparently BA recently took 30 from the whitetail hold pool and they are quoting 100 cadet spots as available.
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Old 7th Nov 2017, 17:26
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Hi All,


After completing online assessment and providing invited for stage2, Is it possible to choose assessment dates suitable to me? or do I have to go with the dates they suggested? Best of luck to all.
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