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Old 27th Apr 2018, 09:15
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I rarely post but am constantly looking at the message board for any info I may have missed or developments, so thanks for keeping them coming.

Iím sure thereís a few other successful applicants lurking but not replying too!

Sounds to me like they are hiring experience immediately to fill the current gap, before diverting their attention to us further down the line in the coming months.

Iím still taking no news as good news, though I canít wait to get started.
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Old 26th Jun 2018, 01:37
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Itís been fairly quiet over the past month or 2 so thought I would post to see where everyone is at. I had an email at the start of the month stating the course start dates are likely to be Oct/Nov for all cadets. Wondering if others got this same email and if they have heard any more information than this? Any knowledge would be helpful. Thanks.
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Old 27th Jun 2018, 18:06
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Recruitment is crazy at the moment, so don't worry if you haven't heard anything yet. The recruitment team is working flat out. And the outlook for recruitment is still looking strong for the next year or two. Not sure if more progress has been made regarding a funded cadetship. There hasn't been any more news on that front yet (either way) as far as I'm aware. As with almost everything... timeframes for things are very malleable.
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Old 10th Jul 2018, 18:13
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Start dates are out. Hope everyone got the route they were looking for
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Old 13th Jul 2018, 22:20
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Originally Posted by boxer123 View Post
It's takeb so long to get just start dates out - a year after the scheme opened!!! Not quite March as they originally claimed. I wonder if any people will have been put off by the long wait. Still no information on location or cost breakdown.
It certainly has been a long and frustrating wait but I think the shortage of pilots for this summer took precedance and hence the delay.

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Old 24th Jul 2018, 12:30
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Glad to post that I have heard back from BA and L3 regarding course dates and the TSA. Following up from the email I was told which route I was given. Considering they are the same sponsored courses, what do you think will be the main differences between MPL and ATPL? Assuming the MPL will spend more time in the UK, potentially at Gatwick?

Starting 6th November, what course start dates did everyone else get??
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Old 21st Dec 2018, 21:07
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Does anyone have any info on the status of the BA cadet programme and when it will reopen?
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Old 22nd Dec 2018, 14:49
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Heard from a worker at BA that there may be a chance of a small cadet offer in 2019, but courses won't start until 2020, so I wouldn't hold your breath!
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Old 1st Feb 2019, 11:30
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Brexit affecting FPP

Do you guys know how brexit will affect the BA FPP as well as other programmes? In terms of BA only offering their programne to UK citizens only?
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 14:26
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I'd go on the assumption that whatever the outcome of all the Brexit stuff, they'll still only take people who have the legal right to live and work in the UK.

This is exactly what they stipulate now, it's just that obviously the criteria of who has the legal right to live and work here may be different after that point.
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Old 6th Feb 2019, 16:34
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That would be ideal! You wouldn't happen to know anything more at all? (Just as it's been nearly a year and a half!)
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 15:58
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Nope, don't know anything at all, unfortunately!

I'm really just making an educated guess that anyone with the right to both live and work here would surely be eligible. The questions are more about who may have or not have that right, depending on the outcome of the political shenanigans.
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Old 7th Feb 2019, 16:05
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Fingers crossed it is something they do for 2019, would make my year to be able to apply alone, let alone make it through! Or a lotto win could be useful!

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Old 9th Feb 2019, 22:25
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I really hope they do, too. Many, many of us would not be there now if it hadn't been for the financial assistance in the previous scheme. Hundreds more wouldn't have been there had it not been for the old, fully funded schemes, although that's going back about 20 years!

Fingers crossed for an accessible cadet scheme at some point!
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Old 9th Feb 2019, 22:35
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MaydayMaydayMayday Which scheme did you do it under if you donít mind me asking?

Now iíve decided iím going to pursue it, i find iím getting frustrated at the complete lack of financial services available to someone in my position!
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 15:43
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FPP, back when BBVA were still doing the loans with BA as the guarantor.
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 12:23
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Originally Posted by joebloggs08 View Post
So BA,

As you can see from people's reactions (including ex and current FPPs) and in my personal opinion as a current FPP, rightful comments, the new BA Cadet Programme is embarrassing to British Airways. There is no doubt that British Airways can no longer pride itself on employing 'the best pilots' when it limits its intake to only those who are wealthy enough to invest in the training.

Maybe it is just me but there seems to be some ambiguous answers flying around. I propose a few very simple questions..

Firstly, does BA realise how many not just successful but highly talented FPP First Officers are currently flying on the line for the airline? Many of which (and all of whom that I know) would not be in their current position was it not for the financial security of the FPP. Quite simply, removing this aspect from the Cadet Programme removes that talent available.
As plainly as can possibly be put, the current FPPs were chosen as the best out of all whom wanted to apply. The new scheme seems set out to take the best out of all whom can afford to apply. i.e. BA recruits the best of the people who can afford it rather than just the best full stop.
So, can BA see and do they agree that this new cadet scheme limits a huge amount of talent from the opportunity of becoming a British Airways pilot?

Secondly, as has been previously stated, not too long ago (FPP era) BA advertised that "one of the biggest obstacles is the cost of pilot training" and that "British Airways firmly believes this shouldn't be the case".
So, how is a talented individual who cannot afford the £115,000 supposed to be able to now pursue a career as a British Airways pilot?

I look forward to hearing any logical answers.
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Old 26th Jul 2019, 15:30
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Joebloggs08 is quite rightly frustrated as to the latest BA FPP scheme where the beancounters are ruling the roost.
Even with their recent annual accounts as part of IAG they seem unmoved.

There is of course at least one other way to become a professional pilot. The modular route. Start earning, start saving, and those determined to succeed will do so. It will invariably take longer but if it is really what you want to do, you will do it.

An analogy I use: it is like going into the Church, you need to believe in God.

The modular student achieves because they are fully committed. That isn't to say that Sponsored student are not. They have had to jump through a number of very testing hoops to be accepted in the first place. The vast majority are very keen.
You do however get the odd sponsored student who can clearly charm the birds off the trees (interviews etc) but start to loose interest, have doubts etc about being a pilot during the course.

BA will recruit outwith their FPP schemes, but hoop jumping is inevitable.
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