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Old 29th Aug 2017, 11:10
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Guys, one of my son's friends asked me about the easyJet MPL scheme and I admit I haven't got much of a clue. But I have tracked this thread since it's birth and I have found some interesting blogs/reads from cadets who have been through the MPL Scheme. But I'm hoping somebody who has gone through the scheme on here or has in depth knowledge may answer the following questions:

1) How are the modules split? 6 months in Southampton, 6 months in Hamilton, NZ and 6 months in Bournemouth?

2) Do cadets get time off to spend with family throughout training? I understand usually after finishing exams? How much time off is allocated during the course?

3) Can partners fly out to NZ with them and live in accommodation? I have explained that the course will be very intense.

4) Have BBVA stopped doing loans altogether or do they still have an agreement with L3/CTC?

5) When are the course start dates likely for 2018?
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Old 30th Aug 2017, 18:48
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Hi everyone,

Would be grateful for any information on the following:

-If we pass Phase 1 (initial application screening) do we have to sit cut-e aptitude tests prior to attending Dibden Manor Day 1?

-For those who have passed Dibden Manor Day 1, how long after was your Day 2 assessment?

Thanks for any info.
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Old 30th Aug 2017, 23:03
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@A320ECAM,

Understandable you've questions. I'll aim to answer them the best I can. I'm a current cadet out in NZ. I'm not on the easyJet MPL, but I train alongside many who are and a fair few of those questions are universal regardless of course.

I will presume based on the focus on NZ that you refer to the MPL course at L3 Airline Academy as there are two other schools too. Much of a muchness either way.

1) How are the modules split? 6 months in Southampton, 6 months in Hamilton, NZ and 6 months in Bournemouth?

For the MPL it's typically..
  • 6 Months ATPL Theory in Southampton / Coventry
  • 4 - 5 Month MPL Flight Training in New Zealand
  • A couple of weeks and a few flights in Bournemouth on the DA42;
  • Then A320 sim for the remainder of your course (Nursling or London)

The course is about 2 years in duration from nothing to the right hand seat if all goes well.

2) Do cadets get time off to spend with family throughout training? I understand usually after finishing exams? How much time off is allocated during the course?

This depends on how busy the school is and how aligned to your planned timetable you are. For example, between ground school and coming out to New Zealand, our course - inclusive of the MPL chaps - had a month off. We applied for Visas etc in this time. In ground school the weekends were very much yours to do as you please so I did pop home on one or two occasions. To your last point, time isn't so much allocated as being 'off' as with the MPLs they need to get you line ready by the agreed date with the airline. You may not feel that's the case when in training, but a lot of decisions around the MPL focus on this point. If you're all ahead of time you might find yourself with a week off or two between phases. However, if weather in NZ or the UK hinders progress during the flying phase of training then that contingency may well be reduced to zero to keep you on track for your first line ready flight.

3) Can partners fly out to NZ with them and live in accommodation? I have explained that the course will be very intense.

The official standpoint is yes they may, with prior permission from the training co-ordinators. You're somewhat a mini slave to the security bond when at L3 and they will need you to always be at your best so tend to keep tabs on visitors. They may well charge a fee for their time in the accomodation also. Unofficially though, i've heard of people staying in the past with no issues. But yes, it is intense and you can easily fall behind when you've certain distractions around.

4) Have BBVA stopped doing loans altogether or do they still have an agreement with L3/CTC?

November 2017 is the latest end date given. If you can get an application in before then you may be in luck. With that said, speak with a financial advisor as I've heard from readers of my blog that a lot of them are finding deals suited to the training on the market from other lenders - at more favourable rates!

5) When are the course start dates likely for 2018?

Your guess is as good as mine there. It'll be as and when they need more applicants really. With that said, easyJet's MPL program has been open pretty much every year since its' inception. Either way, I believe easyJet understands it's sometimes treated as a stepping stone airline and with BA having offered many existing easyJet FOs jobs I can foresee them needing a steady flow of crew going forwards as those guys gradually hand in resignations. The industry is very fluid and changes all the time, so who knows.

Hope that helps.
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3) Can partners fly out to NZ with them and live in accommodation? I have explained that the course will be very intense.

The official standpoint is yes they may, with prior permission from the training co-ordinators. You're somewhat a mini slave to the security bond when at L3 and they will need you to always be at your best so tend to keep tabs on visitors. They may well charge a fee for their time in the accomodation also. Unofficially though, i've heard of people staying in the past with no issues. But yes, it is intense and you can easily fall behind when you've certain distractions around.
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This is not what i was told by L3 representitives at a recent open day. I asked directly if my fiancee would be able to stay with me in NZ or Arizona and was told catagorically that it wasn't possible and indeed actively discouraged.
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Originally Posted by FlyinErin
3) Can partners fly out to NZ with them and live in accommodation? I have explained that the course will be very intense.

The official standpoint is yes they may, with prior permission from the training co-ordinators. You're somewhat a mini slave to the security bond when at L3 and they will need you to always be at your best so tend to keep tabs on visitors. They may well charge a fee for their time in the accomodation also. Unofficially though, i've heard of people staying in the past with no issues. But yes, it is intense and you can easily fall behind when you've certain distractions around.

This is not what i was told by L3 representitives at a recent open day. I asked directly if my fiancee would be able to stay with me in NZ or Arizona and was told catagorically that it wasn't possible and indeed actively discouraged.
Actively discouraged, yes but possible, also yes. Three of my coursemates have each had their partners stay out here during training for a week or two. They don't actively shout about it being possible, but they do allow it if you're on timeline.
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Old 31st Aug 2017, 09:42
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Originally Posted by tlipiec
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After you pass the initial screening, you should get straight onto Pilapt & Math tests in Dibden - No Cut-e tests (at least not with L3)
@tlipiec Thanks for the info - appreciate it.
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 14:37
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I emailed easyJet directly to ask them about underwriting. They pretty much take the same line as L3 - exceptional candidates over all parts of selection. However, they did say that a limited number of guarantees are still available. Are there any accounts of anyone being offered this? I'm skeptical that it's not much more than a way to draw attention to the programme and the school.

Still mulling over whether to go through it all again only to be denied my place due to financing.

Tempted to join as cabin crew in the hopes that one day it might get me a chance of getting a guarantee from the airline. Otherwise, might continue developing myself in the career I'm currently and see what opportunities come up in future.

I'm almost a solo glider pilot now too, so that would be another feather in my bow in future.
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 20:56
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I know I am far from having waited the longest but is anybody here sharing in my pain of waiting for a result? It's been 4 weeks since my second assessment and am yet to hear anything regarding EasyJet's decision for my application
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 23:28
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Hi all

My name is Amy, for anybody who was with me on day 2 of the assessments!

I've been routed MPL and received the contract in the post today. No clue how I'm going to fund it yet, doesn't seem as if underwriting will be happening! I've decided that I'm going to ring easyjet next week to enquire - member of staff at CTC told me it was unlikely that I've got it as they hadn't been informed by easyjet, so just gonna approach them directly!

On the other hand, it's gonna be looking way more likely that I secure a loan against my parents property. We'll see as nothing about that is certain at all! This industry has made virtually no progress at all at making it more accessible for the ordinary person.

My next steps now are to contact high street banks to see if they're able to offer anything and hopefully speak to a financial advisor. Clearly it seems that BBVA may still be an option, but it makes me question their safety and the bank itself as to why they're removing their pilot product. Could anybody shed any light on this?

Il let you all know what becomes of high street banks! Really do not want to have to turn this offer down

Also, for anybody who is in the know about the L3 training contract - it says you have 28 days to sign and send back - does anybody know what the case is if you require longer to sign it etc? I'm going to enquire about this too on Monday. Will keep everybody posted!

Hope you guys find out your route allocations soon
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Old 2nd Sep 2017, 09:38
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First off, congrats! Secondly I'm planning on going through BBVA myself and as far as I am aware the bank itself is quite a big one in Spain, plenty of adverts for it can be seen when abroad, so I wouldn't worry about the legitimacy or safety of it but that's just my opinion.

May I ask as to when you did your second assessment?

And did you get an email before receiving the contract?

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For anybody who is in the know about the L3 training contract - it says you have 28 days to sign and send back - does anybody know what the case is if you require longer to sign it etc? I'm going to enquire about this too on Monday.
I was awaiting BBVA's response before I paid the first payment/deposit but I made sure to return the contract within the timeframe asked of me. The staff at CTC/L3 were accommodating of BBVA taking some time and didn't rush for that first payment. As long as I kept them updated throughout they were happy with that. Given it's an MPL offer i'd double check with them first hand though!

BBVA are restructuring their operations in the UK following a reduction in sale of typical high street products. The Canary Wharf office which manages the BBVA loan product is to close at the end of the year as part of this. Loans accepted by November 2017 will be honored and managed by another branch during the restructuring. BBVA themselves are a huge entity in Spain and are the countries second largest bank. Their focus in the UK was mostly on investments / commercial products to which pilot funding sat within.
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I have my first assessment coming up. Can anyone who has been recently confirm the content? Am I right in saying it's PILAPT and Maths on the first day and if invited back it's group exercise and interview on the second?
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That's correct and there's a little presentation at both. Good luck and enjoy it!
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Hi everyone!

Been reading this thread for a while but decided to ask for a bit of advice! I applied before taking my A-Levels and was offered the 2nd stage interview at Dibden, however with my A-Levels so close I didn't book onto any of the dates.

I have just had another email from easyJet/L3 saying they still have dates available and now the stress of A-Levels is over, I'm back from my holidays and settled with my results I want to attend one and give it my all! The only thing stopping me however... the £295!

£295 is a small price to pay should you be offered the course, but a large smack in the face if you don't! I just wondered if anyone had an idea of how many people tend to make it through?

I'm also still in the process of having my vision checked by an optician to ensure this won't stop be getting my Class 1 Medical! My optician is struggling to find the requirements for this and its quite vague online when relating to my case, I have a squint with close to perfect vision in my right eye, but limited vision in my left. Finally, can anyone advise on this at all? I know you're not opticians but just thought maybe someone had come across it?

Thanks everyone!
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@FlyYorkshire

Agreed, it's steep. I attended twice so ended up paying ~£500 before even getting my offer. A large number of cadets coming through the doors are now easyJet MPL / Route 2 / 3 so they've got a large quota to fill it seems. Especially as L3 keep pushing for new applicants. In any case, I'd recommend giving it a shot.. but don't book one very close to todays date as i'd still allow yourself time to mentally prepare.

As for your optician requirements, everything you'll need to meet as far as the eyesight goes can be found at the below link. There are relevant documents there which your optician can read if need be. Realistically your best bet would be to go for a Class 1 medical first and foremost to check anything with your overall fitness for flight.

https://www.caa.co.uk/Aeromedical-Ex...e-material-GM/
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Hi, does anyone know how competitive the easyJet program is? i.e the ratio of applicants to successful applicants. I applied to the route 3 ATPL rather than MPL and MPL upgrade. Does anyone know which route is more/less competitive?
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Unless they've changed the format (haven't looked as on mobile) you apply for the course as a whole then easyJet award you a route.
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@NAW1302

Route 1 is clearly the most competitive given its' the airlines flagship and as such places on MPL will be limited. To secure Route 1 or 2 you must meet the airline requirements in entirety, i.e. grades/qualifications. Once your initial application has been reviewed by L3 you will be told which route(s) you qualify for and will be offered the opportunity to book yourself onto the relevant selection day. i.e. Route 1/2 or Route 3. I'm afraid I do not have the exact figures really but there are a fair few Route 3 cadets in the process at the moment. As far as I see Route 3, it's just L3's Whitetail program with the tagging occurring at the start rather than the end thereby cutting out the holdpool step.

Best of luck in your selection and future training,
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Hi gbotley

There are no separate interview days for route 1/2 and 3.

As you know (having used your blog in part to prep), you apply, have your initial screening, then do your PILAPT and maths day and then come back for the group day if successful.

You don't get offered group interview dates based on your route as you don't actually know which route you are on yet for the most part. You just get offered open dates.

There was a greek man on my group interview day who had already been told they were on route 3 (i think because of some qualifications issue but not sure) but the rest of us had no idea.

After the group interview day, i was told i was successful but it took a month before they told me my route.

I would say that there is no real competitiveness with the routes and the reason i say it is because I would assume that they would prefer all their applicants to go down the MPL route. i.e. if 40 applied and 40 were MPL standard, would they not want to offer all 40 the MPL route? (obviously with possible different start dates) On the candidates side, yes you probably want the MPL but if you haven't got the necessary academic qualifications, you won't be able to do it and so there is nothing to compete for.

I may well be wrong but that is my take on how competitive the routes are.
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@mboqseif

Apologies if it didn't come over clear. What I meant by that was if you don't meet the requirements for Route 1 or 2 then you'll never get 1 or 2 but could still be offered selection. There have been people in the past who have explicitly had selection knowing they were Route 3 only which is what I was alluding too.
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