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It’s your attitude man! Throwning a wobbler here cause someone said what to expect.. get on with it. This is life.
You go on as if the assessments was only for you. People come on here to get info and help each other. You are clearly the total opposite, so I don’t even know what are you doing on this forum.
You are arguing with everyone here that disagrees with you. You wont stand a chance even if you get in, HR people smell arogance from people like you from miles away.
Btw, theres tons of information online on what to expect in those kind of interviews, aptitude test, etc..
You go on as if the assessments was only for you. People come on here to get info and help each other. You are clearly the total opposite, so I don’t even know what are you doing on this forum.
You are arguing with everyone here that disagrees with you. You wont stand a chance even if you get in, HR people smell arogance from people like you from miles away.
Btw, theres tons of information online on what to expect in those kind of interviews, aptitude test, etc..
You don't know me, you don't know if I stand a chance or not. You may come across people on daily basis and simply not know who they are or how they will act. Your posts as well as Warlock and the others who shied away have no leg to stand on. If you can't take the heat, then you have to look at yourself as real world is nastier than this.
Attitude?arrogance? all noise Mate, white noise and nobody cares. I don't care.
You don't even know if you stand a chance, that is the reality.
You can see the amount the information I have shared in the past. I have been very open and have criticised too, it is also my right. I am not arguing, you seriously get triggered very easily. I have simply posed the questions and so far, none of you answered. I will ask you again, as I'm worried the supposed "pilots" can understand simple instructions or questions, I will simplify it. Did Aer Lingus ask us to respect the confidentiality of the process, yes or no?
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Dude who are you? A forum detective? Nobody has to answer your questions, wether EI asked about confidentiality or not, its none of your business to apply your own law on this forum. Who pissed in your cereal this morning?
You want to come a across here as a cool dude who doesn’t care and it appears that you are boling inside. Chill out abit.
If the stuff like this worries you, you havent got a hope in the industry I hate to tell you.
Now lighten up a bit or please leave this discussion!
You want to come a across here as a cool dude who doesn’t care and it appears that you are boling inside. Chill out abit.
If the stuff like this worries you, you havent got a hope in the industry I hate to tell you.
Now lighten up a bit or please leave this discussion!
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Please do quit. Do us the favour? Would you like to answer the questions I posed?
The truth is, I think you ALL know that I'm spot on because you took the tests, but you have to save face so you won't answer it, as it would be your admission.
Discourse is important, you don't have to agree or like what I say, you sound like Hilary supporters who refused to listen to the other side, and Trump supporters who call everything fake news. You are not engaging, It's the generation snowflake, melt with little heat.
You can disagree with me and explain why you disagree, none of you was adult enough to do that. It is great social experiment, and you say I am not fit for the cockpit? Zero critical thinking, zero engagement and discussion of the subject matter, just "he's a troll". I am a troll because I have challenged your mental models? And YOU are pilots?
You need to stop smoking whatever you smoke...
The truth is, I think you ALL know that I'm spot on because you took the tests, but you have to save face so you won't answer it, as it would be your admission.
Discourse is important, you don't have to agree or like what I say, you sound like Hilary supporters who refused to listen to the other side, and Trump supporters who call everything fake news. You are not engaging, It's the generation snowflake, melt with little heat.
You can disagree with me and explain why you disagree, none of you was adult enough to do that. It is great social experiment, and you say I am not fit for the cockpit? Zero critical thinking, zero engagement and discussion of the subject matter, just "he's a troll". I am a troll because I have challenged your mental models? And YOU are pilots?
You need to stop smoking whatever you smoke...
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After reading 3 or 4 pages of this "discussion" I had to create an account to reply..
I cannot believe guys that you are that dumb. Anunaki's attitude is not the best one but he is right. I seriously can't believe that you see nothing wrong in sharing classified information letting other people take advantage of this. There's a point that shouldn't be crossed. You are taking part in a competition - I see nothing wrong in backing up each other in cockpit or here, just don't do it by sharing questions, d@%n! Everybody should have equal chances to show their knowledge and I am all in for supporting the other person but not by breaking the rules of assessment... It is not fair towards all of the participants... Stop
us (readers) with your CRM, wrong attitude and so on. All of you are doing the same thing, judging Anunaki of how terrible person he is. But he is so right and there are two options: a) either you are too dumb to admit it or b) it hurts you so much that you can't admit that you're wrong.
I am not saying I haven't cheated a single time in my life, but sharing question is classified as "cheating "here and I am pretty sure that Aer Lingus didn't consider cheating as a value during their assessment process.
Cheers
I cannot believe guys that you are that dumb. Anunaki's attitude is not the best one but he is right. I seriously can't believe that you see nothing wrong in sharing classified information letting other people take advantage of this. There's a point that shouldn't be crossed. You are taking part in a competition - I see nothing wrong in backing up each other in cockpit or here, just don't do it by sharing questions, d@%n! Everybody should have equal chances to show their knowledge and I am all in for supporting the other person but not by breaking the rules of assessment... It is not fair towards all of the participants... Stop
us (readers) with your CRM, wrong attitude and so on. All of you are doing the same thing, judging Anunaki of how terrible person he is. But he is so right and there are two options: a) either you are too dumb to admit it or b) it hurts you so much that you can't admit that you're wrong.I am not saying I haven't cheated a single time in my life, but sharing question is classified as "cheating "here and I am pretty sure that Aer Lingus didn't consider cheating as a value during their assessment process.
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This is pprune, about half the threads are people asking what was asked in interviews etc on this section especially, if you don't like that then you're in the wrong place.
Step away from the computer, make a cup of coffee, go outside for a walk or something, I certainly hope you aren't gonna be so belligerent and warlike to everyone on the day of the assessment, because that is something they will not like, whether they agree with your point about sharing info or not.
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Please do quit. Do us the favour? Would you like to answer the questions I posed?
The truth is, I think you ALL know that I'm spot on because you took the tests, but you have to save face so you won't answer it, as it would be your admission.
Discourse is important, you don't have to agree or like what I say, you sound like Hilary supporters who refused to listen to the other side, and Trump supporters who call everything fake news. You are not engaging, It's the generation snowflake, melt with little heat.
You can disagree with me and explain why you disagree, none of you was adult enough to do that. It is great social experiment, and you say I am not fit for the cockpit? Zero critical thinking, zero engagement and discussion of the subject matter, just "he's a troll". I am a troll because I have challenged your mental models? And YOU are pilots?
You need to stop smoking whatever you smoke...
The truth is, I think you ALL know that I'm spot on because you took the tests, but you have to save face so you won't answer it, as it would be your admission.
Discourse is important, you don't have to agree or like what I say, you sound like Hilary supporters who refused to listen to the other side, and Trump supporters who call everything fake news. You are not engaging, It's the generation snowflake, melt with little heat.
You can disagree with me and explain why you disagree, none of you was adult enough to do that. It is great social experiment, and you say I am not fit for the cockpit? Zero critical thinking, zero engagement and discussion of the subject matter, just "he's a troll". I am a troll because I have challenged your mental models? And YOU are pilots?
You need to stop smoking whatever you smoke...
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Ladies and gents I strongly advise everyone to calm down!
I am taking this initiative to say so because it was after one of my previous posts that Anunaki started to express his own opinions.
Anunaki my good friend in one of the previous posts in this thread someone said to think twice before sharing any info then a nice chap called dips voiced his disagreement and said that he thought otherwise.
When I replied to Dips I said that I shared his point of view but at the same time completely respected the other colleague's opinion even if I did not agree.
Believe it or not even if you have called me stupid and muppet amongst several things I TOTALLY respect your argument, nevertheless I do not agree with your tone but still I do not have problem with that.(As I said life is too short to get upset, and I was referring to myself not you.
Now to the important staff fratello,in one of your previous posts you said that no matter what the case will be that experienced guys will get the job so let me tell you that 95% of the guys that got in touch with me were newbies, no experience, nada,niente so really do not see the harm of sharing this info plus the fact that according to you they will not get the job anyway.
I do NOT believe that that the video interview will decide who is gonna pass or fail,even if someone got away with it because of me he will not get the job if he is not good at the rests as simple as that.
You will agree with me that in case you make it to the next stage you will have to undergo another interview again so this is the point that you have to prove to them that you deserve to get the job.
You called me stupid because I shared my experience therefore all the others got the answers easily without having to struggle.
Let me say that I agree,do you really think that any of these guys will ever succeed on aviation if they really do not try their best every single day in every aspect?
Therefore I DO agree with you that only if you are prepared to go the extra mile you will succeed in this profession,knowning the four questions that somebody was asked on a video interview is not that and if everyone is only counting on that will crush and burn.
I am pming to you my real name and family name because you challenged that no one would do it because he is afraid of the Air Lingus consequences...
Since we do not live far I might have the chance in the future to buy you a nice glass of vino and talk about all that
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I am taking this initiative to say so because it was after one of my previous posts that Anunaki started to express his own opinions.
Anunaki my good friend in one of the previous posts in this thread someone said to think twice before sharing any info then a nice chap called dips voiced his disagreement and said that he thought otherwise.
When I replied to Dips I said that I shared his point of view but at the same time completely respected the other colleague's opinion even if I did not agree.
Believe it or not even if you have called me stupid and muppet amongst several things I TOTALLY respect your argument, nevertheless I do not agree with your tone but still I do not have problem with that.(As I said life is too short to get upset, and I was referring to myself not you.
Now to the important staff fratello,in one of your previous posts you said that no matter what the case will be that experienced guys will get the job so let me tell you that 95% of the guys that got in touch with me were newbies, no experience, nada,niente so really do not see the harm of sharing this info plus the fact that according to you they will not get the job anyway.
I do NOT believe that that the video interview will decide who is gonna pass or fail,even if someone got away with it because of me he will not get the job if he is not good at the rests as simple as that.
You will agree with me that in case you make it to the next stage you will have to undergo another interview again so this is the point that you have to prove to them that you deserve to get the job.
You called me stupid because I shared my experience therefore all the others got the answers easily without having to struggle.
Let me say that I agree,do you really think that any of these guys will ever succeed on aviation if they really do not try their best every single day in every aspect?
Therefore I DO agree with you that only if you are prepared to go the extra mile you will succeed in this profession,knowning the four questions that somebody was asked on a video interview is not that and if everyone is only counting on that will crush and burn.
I am pming to you my real name and family name because you challenged that no one would do it because he is afraid of the Air Lingus consequences...
Since we do not live far I might have the chance in the future to buy you a nice glass of vino and talk about all that
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Could you clarify....?
Part one of the assesment is Pilot Assessments and covered in this are 8 individual tests which are mostly timed.
1. Work related Behaviour (Not timed)
2. Situational Behaviour (Not timed)
3. Verbal Reasoning (Timed)
4. Reaction Speed (Timed)
5. Spatial Orientation (Timed)
6. Complex contol (Timed)
7. Multi-tasking Capability (Timed)
8. Applied Numeracy (Timed)
Good Luck
1. Work related Behaviour (Not timed)
2. Situational Behaviour (Not timed)
3. Verbal Reasoning (Timed)
4. Reaction Speed (Timed)
5. Spatial Orientation (Timed)
6. Complex contol (Timed)
7. Multi-tasking Capability (Timed)
8. Applied Numeracy (Timed)
Good Luck
1-3 should be easy.
4 - Could you describe what is it like?
5 - I guess it's like Bearing? with acft and find the correct one?
6 - Could you explain?
7- I guess it's pretty simple.
8- Is it Numerical Reasoning?
Thanks!
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Giorgio
Finally, that took a while! That’s what I was expecting, address the subject matter and although we disagree, we can have a dialogue. That’s the beauty of democracy, Europe was built on discourse.
In regards to the ratio of experienced and non, it is safe to say that due to the lack of experience in the market and the demise of Monarch, they would alocate more vacancies to those candidates, it’s an educated guess. When it comes to recruitment of low hours, it can go to the video or to the psychometric profile yes, as the volume of applications from candidates with the same level is large. You’d be surprised, I have seen it first hand at my airline, they will scrutinise those results. I may be wrong tho and they may be more
Efficient or approach differently.
Also, not my intention to insult, so here are my apologies!
In regards to the next stage, it doesn’t really matter what I do, if I flown before( somene else asked) what do you think or what’s your perception of my character. It means nothing to me or the Airline.
I have to prove myself to THEM and at the end of the day, if I Make it that far, it is my job to show them on the day that I can meet or exceed the standard. So pointing that out is fruitless, you lot don’t know how I will perform and you cannnot foresee that based on what I wrote in an Internet forum, thats a fact.
What I’m really interested, its what’s the time frame for selection, as my job is done.
About preparation, the amount of resources available, specially on Balpa’s website, should Give enough info for cadets looking to apply. What I did was to google the link for the pilot assessment and saw it was cut-e. So I practised them, I also researched the other points and they give you clues about what to expect In the video, it was fairly easy to figure out. I believe that if I could be proactive, so could they.
Concluding, we will not agree on most things but I feel that cadets need to get their neck out and understand that we cannot spoon feed everyone. It is a competition and as you said, it’s life.
I have contributed and have shared Information on other topics, given advice etc before and I do understand the point of a forum. But I also understand that there is not fairness or equality when people try to bend the system, it is hard enough as it is.
If you live close, you know very well how’s the system here, it’s filled with nepotism, people getting jobs when they did not have the aptitude for it, but got that little “help”. Well, just look at Alitalia.
I have seen people taking jobs that could be yours, one specific case, the lad failed his sim and technical exam, but dad was someone within the airline and I was told to comply and put him through. I have also seen people being given result sheets prior attending assessments.
It is perfectly reasonable for me to ask for a fair process and for people to respect it, the Airline asked that, so you lot can’t attack me all you want. Let’s leave it at that and I’ll Await your message.
Finally, that took a while! That’s what I was expecting, address the subject matter and although we disagree, we can have a dialogue. That’s the beauty of democracy, Europe was built on discourse.
In regards to the ratio of experienced and non, it is safe to say that due to the lack of experience in the market and the demise of Monarch, they would alocate more vacancies to those candidates, it’s an educated guess. When it comes to recruitment of low hours, it can go to the video or to the psychometric profile yes, as the volume of applications from candidates with the same level is large. You’d be surprised, I have seen it first hand at my airline, they will scrutinise those results. I may be wrong tho and they may be more
Efficient or approach differently.
Also, not my intention to insult, so here are my apologies!
In regards to the next stage, it doesn’t really matter what I do, if I flown before( somene else asked) what do you think or what’s your perception of my character. It means nothing to me or the Airline.
I have to prove myself to THEM and at the end of the day, if I Make it that far, it is my job to show them on the day that I can meet or exceed the standard. So pointing that out is fruitless, you lot don’t know how I will perform and you cannnot foresee that based on what I wrote in an Internet forum, thats a fact.
What I’m really interested, its what’s the time frame for selection, as my job is done.
About preparation, the amount of resources available, specially on Balpa’s website, should Give enough info for cadets looking to apply. What I did was to google the link for the pilot assessment and saw it was cut-e. So I practised them, I also researched the other points and they give you clues about what to expect In the video, it was fairly easy to figure out. I believe that if I could be proactive, so could they.
Concluding, we will not agree on most things but I feel that cadets need to get their neck out and understand that we cannot spoon feed everyone. It is a competition and as you said, it’s life.
I have contributed and have shared Information on other topics, given advice etc before and I do understand the point of a forum. But I also understand that there is not fairness or equality when people try to bend the system, it is hard enough as it is.
If you live close, you know very well how’s the system here, it’s filled with nepotism, people getting jobs when they did not have the aptitude for it, but got that little “help”. Well, just look at Alitalia.
I have seen people taking jobs that could be yours, one specific case, the lad failed his sim and technical exam, but dad was someone within the airline and I was told to comply and put him through. I have also seen people being given result sheets prior attending assessments.
It is perfectly reasonable for me to ask for a fair process and for people to respect it, the Airline asked that, so you lot can’t attack me all you want. Let’s leave it at that and I’ll Await your message.
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You claim that English is not your mother tongue yet I am sure that besides being a pilot you have a masters in English literature(I am writing that as a genuine compliment so please do not get offended
So to carry on with the dialogue my personal impression is that people here have tried their best in order to prepare themselves, knowing what you or me were asked does not turn these individuals automatically to people that like to be spoon feed.
As I wrote on my previous post and we both agreed(for the first time)if you are not willing to go the extra mile on your own you will definitely fail at one stage or another...
So I agree again that if there were colleagues who asked about my help and relied only on that yes they are pathetic,I still believe though or at least hope that the vast majority have good potentials.
Nevertheless as I want to be fair(I always try to be at least)your point is valid, if it comes down only to the video interview someone that knew the answers has an advantage over someone that did not.
Does that make the competition unfair?Yes it does,I still believe though that this will not determine the outcome..
Regarding your experiences about people g['etting the job just because their father was a captain on the same company or because they had the right connections believe me I have seen it too and it is a disgrace I agree again!
So most probably you will now say:"Come on man if we agree why did you decide to help these guys?"
Fratello I did it because at the beginning of my career nobody did,call me romantic or anything else that you want(no stupid again please lol)it makes me feel good inside, nothing less nothing more.
By doing so I did not feel that I turned the competition into an unfair one as I said earlier on for various reasons.
Anyway fratello as I am sure the rest of the group is not interested on our personal debate my next reply to your comment will be personal.(delivered to your inbox)
For the rest of the guys please respect my friend's Anunaki point of views and stop the whole argument here!
Fratello
You claim that English is not your mother tongue yet I am sure that besides being a pilot you have a masters in English literature(I am writing that as a genuine compliment so please do not get offended
So to carry on with the dialogue my personal impression is that people here have tried their best in order to prepare themselves, knowing what you or me were asked does not turn these individuals automatically to people that like to be spoon feed.
As I wrote on my previous post and we both agreed(for the first time
)if you are not willing to go the extra mile on your own you will definitely fail at one stage or another... So I agree again that if there were colleagues who asked about my help and relied only on that yes they are pathetic,I still believe though or at least hope that the vast majority have good potentials.
Nevertheless as I want to be fair(I always try to be at least)your point is valid, if it comes down only to the video interview someone that knew the answers has an advantage over someone that did not.
Does that make the competition unfair?Yes it does,I still believe though that this will not determine the outcome..
Regarding your experiences about people g['etting the job just because their father was a captain on the same company or because they had the right connections believe me I have seen it too and it is a disgrace I agree again!
So most probably you will now say:"Come on man if we agree why did you decide to help these guys?"
Fratello I did it because at the beginning of my career nobody did,call me romantic or anything else that you want(no stupid again please lol)it makes me feel good inside, nothing less nothing more.
By doing so I did not feel that I turned the competition into an unfair one as I said earlier on for various reasons.
Anyway fratello as I am sure the rest of the group is not interested on our personal debate my next reply to your comment will be personal.(delivered to your inbox)
For the rest of the guys please respect my friend's Anunaki point of views and stop the whole argument here
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