Aer Lingus - Direct Entry Pilot (A320)
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I sent an e-mail last week to the pilot recruitment and they told me that applications are being assessed at the moment and I will be contacted via email in due course.
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Some of the worst RT I have heard (in Dublin) in recent times has been using the "Shamrock" callsign. Seems to be a lot of contractors. All you need is a TR + 500hrs and seemingly not be local! Pretty disappointing recruitment strategy from the "national airline"!
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latest internal update is:
6 started end of march (4 from Stobart)
4 more starting Next week
20 more called to Sim in May this week!
Courses in Nov Dec Jan.
Contractors are a 'dying breed' now. Two left recently.
Looks like that will wrap the intake assessment and TBNT contacts to be made after process wrap up.
There may be more assessment in June and two days of interviews possible too but keep the faith.
Apparently if you didn't get called to Assessment you didn't do well enough online. Simple, but pity.
They saw 350+ DEP candidates in 2016/17 at assessment stage i'm reliably informed. Find that hard to believe tbh unless they're including the cadet process.
6 started end of march (4 from Stobart)
4 more starting Next week
20 more called to Sim in May this week!
Courses in Nov Dec Jan.
Contractors are a 'dying breed' now. Two left recently.
Looks like that will wrap the intake assessment and TBNT contacts to be made after process wrap up.
There may be more assessment in June and two days of interviews possible too but keep the faith.
Apparently if you didn't get called to Assessment you didn't do well enough online. Simple, but pity.
They saw 350+ DEP candidates in 2016/17 at assessment stage i'm reliably informed. Find that hard to believe tbh unless they're including the cadet process.
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When people will be called to start TR in November, December, and January? Anybody interviews January/February know something? Any PFO received? What about the Sim in May? Interviews in January still waiting, any news... 
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Apparently if you didn't get called to Assessment you didn't do well enough online. Simple, but pity.
Internal updates... right.
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pilotflyingrocks, same for me. I was on the 19th of january and I'm still waiting for an answer. Indeed we are 3 to wait (all took the sim assessment). Only 1 guy received a positive answer (not TR / 300TT) but 3 months ago just after the sim.
Officer Kite, I'm TR but I also know a guy who is TR and received a negative answer after the sim so it seems there are no signs of favouring
Officer Kite, I'm TR but I also know a guy who is TR and received a negative answer after the sim so it seems there are no signs of favouring
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Be careful what you wish for.
A friend of mine left a good job at a well known UK Airbus operator to join this outfit so that he could get home to Ireland. He is already regretting his decision and is making enquiries to get his old job back.
The training department does not exist......it is a checking department. He did not enjoy the training at all, the trainers spend more time shouting and slapping wrists than actually training. He was used to proper Airbus SOP's, this outfit seem to fly the Airbus with a mixture of Airbus and Boeing SOP's, a legacy from their old Boeing days. He mentioned once to a trainer that the SOP's were archaic, it didn't go down well and was told he could leave anytime he wanted. He didn't mention it again!
There is a huge amount of arrogance in the place, they truly believe they invented aviation and are at the cutting edge. He says that his old operator was far better and much more professional. When captains ask him where he came from, he usually gets " Ah well, you're in a proper airline now". The standardisation of SOP's is poor with different captains making up different SOP's. In the sim and on the line he is rarely asked his opinion by captains and feels CRM is poor compared to his previous operator.
Man and boy....He feels that the cockpit gradient it very steep, even with his previous airbus experience. Most Captains are Ok but he has come accross more than his fair share of guys that make him do 4 walkarounds on a 4 sector day as they feel it is beneath them. If you were not an AL cadet you are a second class citizen. He was told by one captain that all new pilots into the company should be cadets and that he did not agree with direct entry pilots from other operators.
He is finding it difficult to make ends meet. With Irish tax, the cost of rent in Dublin and the low starting salary he is really struggling financially. He tries to swap on to overnights just so he can make extra money on overnight expenses to put petrol in his car. He knew the low starting salary going in but didn't realise how expensive Dublin rents have gotten and how high Irish taxes are.
It might be a good gig for your first airline job and to get an airbus rating. Once you have the airbus rating you can move on after the bond is paid off.
Good luck to all applying but don't leave a good job to join this outfit.
A friend of mine left a good job at a well known UK Airbus operator to join this outfit so that he could get home to Ireland. He is already regretting his decision and is making enquiries to get his old job back.
The training department does not exist......it is a checking department. He did not enjoy the training at all, the trainers spend more time shouting and slapping wrists than actually training. He was used to proper Airbus SOP's, this outfit seem to fly the Airbus with a mixture of Airbus and Boeing SOP's, a legacy from their old Boeing days. He mentioned once to a trainer that the SOP's were archaic, it didn't go down well and was told he could leave anytime he wanted. He didn't mention it again!
There is a huge amount of arrogance in the place, they truly believe they invented aviation and are at the cutting edge. He says that his old operator was far better and much more professional. When captains ask him where he came from, he usually gets " Ah well, you're in a proper airline now". The standardisation of SOP's is poor with different captains making up different SOP's. In the sim and on the line he is rarely asked his opinion by captains and feels CRM is poor compared to his previous operator.
Man and boy....He feels that the cockpit gradient it very steep, even with his previous airbus experience. Most Captains are Ok but he has come accross more than his fair share of guys that make him do 4 walkarounds on a 4 sector day as they feel it is beneath them. If you were not an AL cadet you are a second class citizen. He was told by one captain that all new pilots into the company should be cadets and that he did not agree with direct entry pilots from other operators.
He is finding it difficult to make ends meet. With Irish tax, the cost of rent in Dublin and the low starting salary he is really struggling financially. He tries to swap on to overnights just so he can make extra money on overnight expenses to put petrol in his car. He knew the low starting salary going in but didn't realise how expensive Dublin rents have gotten and how high Irish taxes are.
It might be a good gig for your first airline job and to get an airbus rating. Once you have the airbus rating you can move on after the bond is paid off.
Good luck to all applying but don't leave a good job to join this outfit.
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I'm sorry but don't believe you. About taxes Ireland is one of the best taxes in Europe. About salary if he is type rated he is no bonded and salary is pretty high compare to other operators. You said he was at home in Ireland... So where is the problem of the rent? I'm sorry but aer lingus still seems to be one of the best options in the market. Rated or not. Best whises!
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I can see you are going to do well in the Aer Lingus selection with your fastidious knowledge of the Irish tax system and knowledge of Ireland in general. Perhaps sing a few ballads from the Dubliners in your interview, that will really impress them.
Taxes are low in Ireland if you happen to be Apple or Microsoft, not if you are a PAYE employee. They are amongst the highest in Europe along with a thing called USC, universal social charge which everyone has to pay as the government bailed out the failed Irish banks. I feel silly telling you all of this as you have such a good grasp of the subject.
He is from Ireland...yes, but doesn't fancy living with his parents, if you want to live in an apartment without your parents you have to pay a charge, it's called rent, perhaps you have heard of it in your country or do landlords let you live for free in return for your free tax and sound financial planning advice. Unfortunately, he is not as gifted as you and has to pay €1500 per month for a one bed in a decent area.
No, he is not bonded but all DEP's start on the same salary regardless of previous experience, cadets start on a lower salary as AL deduct training costs from their salary, again I feel silly telling you all of this as no doubt you have researched the subject in preparation for you interview and imminent move to Dublin, perhaps you spent too much time rehearsing Dubliner and Pogues ballads and forgot to check the pay and conditions of the job.
Good luck in you interview, wear a green suit with a T shirt that says "kiss me I'm Irish".
Taxes are low in Ireland if you happen to be Apple or Microsoft, not if you are a PAYE employee. They are amongst the highest in Europe along with a thing called USC, universal social charge which everyone has to pay as the government bailed out the failed Irish banks. I feel silly telling you all of this as you have such a good grasp of the subject.
He is from Ireland...yes, but doesn't fancy living with his parents, if you want to live in an apartment without your parents you have to pay a charge, it's called rent, perhaps you have heard of it in your country or do landlords let you live for free in return for your free tax and sound financial planning advice. Unfortunately, he is not as gifted as you and has to pay €1500 per month for a one bed in a decent area.
No, he is not bonded but all DEP's start on the same salary regardless of previous experience, cadets start on a lower salary as AL deduct training costs from their salary, again I feel silly telling you all of this as no doubt you have researched the subject in preparation for you interview and imminent move to Dublin, perhaps you spent too much time rehearsing Dubliner and Pogues ballads and forgot to check the pay and conditions of the job.
Good luck in you interview, wear a green suit with a T shirt that says "kiss me I'm Irish".
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Were you perhaps rejected and have now turned to badmouthing them?
Their salary is one of the highest in Europe.
Excuse my lack of elegance ... but this is rubbish.
He's on the 320 I take it ... what overnights?
According to PJN, the starting salary for an Aer Lingus FO is 54,700 basic. On that alone and without flight pay ... if he can't manage his finances living alone then he has other issues on his plate. The contractors were on 72000 basic + flight pay (sacrificing seniority for the period of contracting). Few in Europe are offering this.
As for what John or Mick said while he was sipping his coffee ... hearsay. And if you wanna talk about national carriers thinking they are the best, well nearly every legacy carrier on the planet can come under that category.
Rent in Dublin is bad, but people on half that salary are coping and with families. You can rent a decent 1 bed apartment in Dublin for 1000. That is not far off most major cities in Europe.
Your posts come across as rather bitter towards Ireland as a whole.
Their salary is one of the highest in Europe.
If you were not an AL cadet you are a second class citizen.
He tries to swap on to overnights just so he can make extra money on overnight expenses to put petrol in his car.
According to PJN, the starting salary for an Aer Lingus FO is 54,700 basic. On that alone and without flight pay ... if he can't manage his finances living alone then he has other issues on his plate. The contractors were on 72000 basic + flight pay (sacrificing seniority for the period of contracting). Few in Europe are offering this.
As for what John or Mick said while he was sipping his coffee ... hearsay. And if you wanna talk about national carriers thinking they are the best, well nearly every legacy carrier on the planet can come under that category.
Rent in Dublin is bad, but people on half that salary are coping and with families. You can rent a decent 1 bed apartment in Dublin for 1000. That is not far off most major cities in Europe.
Your posts come across as rather bitter towards Ireland as a whole.
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I've got a mate who's been there about a year now who went to EI from another well known UK airline in which he was captain and went direct SFO.
He says training was good, company is good, although just like any other airline job. All positive stuff.
Captain's he has worked with have been welcoming of his background and experience.
He does get the odd overnight places, even being on the 320. He's Dublin based but gets moved all over the show between, Belfast, Cork and Dublin with the odd overnight in London too.
Regarding the salary, I haven't spoke exact figures with him, but he says it's fantastic at the moment as he gets paid in Euros and the pound is so weak.
He says training was good, company is good, although just like any other airline job. All positive stuff.
Captain's he has worked with have been welcoming of his background and experience.
He does get the odd overnight places, even being on the 320. He's Dublin based but gets moved all over the show between, Belfast, Cork and Dublin with the odd overnight in London too.
Regarding the salary, I haven't spoke exact figures with him, but he says it's fantastic at the moment as he gets paid in Euros and the pound is so weak.