Ryanair current information cadet and FO work condition.

[OhNoCB]

I don't want to make guesses. The two I have had experience of are the UK and Portugal.

[172_driver]

Where is the regulation about social security payment can somebody pass the link to EU law?

Commission Regulation EU 845/2012


I would caution against believing that you're well insured just because you're paying the social taxes. Ryanair's business model is not compatible with social insurance schemes in all countries. If you were to tell them you're taking your maternity leave - that you're entitled to by law - allowance during the summer peak you'll be the laughing stock.

Ryanair's cadetship is great for the young, eager pilot without commitments. It's first after leaving Ryanair I understood the meaning of secure employment.

[Jwscud]

What percentage of your gross hourly rate you end up with in your pocket at the end of the month.

[liam548]

I realise there are historic threads with the "how long should I wait for contact from CAE" questions however I see the PPJN page for Ryanair has recently been updated to suggest that TRs could even be paid for soon!?

Ryanair pilot jobs news for airline pilots and aviation schools

Still no contact despite me and a friend entering our details on the CAE website in December.

Is there any email address or is any kind of contact/chasing up still frowned upon?

Thanks.

[tomuchwork]

PPJN looks a bit outdated. At least Capt. info regarding pay is wrong and old. Increased now.

I guess the FO info should be wrong as well.

[liam548]

Current Situation: Increased cadet programm to 700 plus this year, lots of upgrade and DEC to cover expansion and leaves

That section was updated a few days ago

[AMS]

In terms of when people may hear back from RYR - some have taken days, weeks to years and some will never hear!

[tomuchwork]

I think at the moment with all airlines searching for pilots it is a good time - even for low hour FO's.
As a DEC (at least in my case which, I guess, is nothing special) you hear from them normally within a few hours(had a call 1 hour after sending in my application, interview 10 days later(was working before,had no time earlier), job confirmation within 3 days.

I must say - as much as people complain about this company, there are much worse around. And in terms of career it is perfect for any low hour FO(or Capt) on a nice typerating. Just look around this forum how many guys have it much worse(just look into the ME threads if someone has plans for down there ;-) ).

I am very much looking forward to finally again(started my career like that lots of years ago) going home into MY place after a flight. That's luxury nowadays in a pilots life(you will understand after 20-30 years of aviation ^^).

[FWIflyer]

Originally Posted by liam548

Current Situation: Increased cadet programm to 700 plus this year, lots of upgrade and DEC to cover expansion and leaves

That section was updated a few days ago

Be careful with PJN updates. Anyone can update the details of any airline. I know for sure that they need 500 cadets for 2016. But I have never heard something about the 5 year bond new cadet program

[Grumbler]

Hi guys,

Can you tell me how many months in advance will you know the compulsory months off during winter? And do they give your some kind of possibility to choose or will they just allocate one for you? Or how does it work?
Thanks

[NWCoast]

Depends on demand when you get your month off, also depends on when you joined the company.
Guys who joined with me have now been given months off for May and June, for a couple of them.
Guy who got it in June got the email today, reason for it being in June?
We joined in June, so that's the last possible month to get him off before being within the company for one full year since joining the course.

You can provide a request in the annual leave system, however, you must take whatever you are given.

Hope that helps.

[tomuchwork]

Actually a cool thing, will join in June as well. So, always having a month off in spring/summer is a great news. Was afraid I will have to fly to the carribean every year in October/November.

[FRALH]

I´m trying to figure out the pay scheme during the first year with FR and I´d like to know how long, how many hours, does the line training last and how many sectors are flown before the safety pilot will be released?

[MaverickPrime]

According to a FR TRE it's a minimum of 68 sectors but can take a few more depending on the progress of the pilot.

[FRALH]

68 sectors for the line training and not to have the safety pilot released right?

[MaverickPrime]

I haven't did a TR yet on a jet so I'm only working from what I've learnt.

As I understand it after base training you go into line training for a minimum of 68 sectors with a training captain in the LHS, you in the RHS and a safety pilot in the jumpseat in case something happens to the training captain. Once the training captain is happy with your competency (around 68 sectors) he 'Line Checks' you and you are then cleared to fly with an ordinary line captain and no longer require the safety pilot in the jumpseat hence 'safety pilot release', this is the point at which Ryanair start to pay you as I understand it. This is the general procedure for any airline.

Any current FR pilots on here able to clarify this?

[FRALH]

I´not sure about it but I´ve read in a german forum that a guy, who has flown 12 or a little more sectors before to have the safety release removed.
I don´t know but I think that only 12 are too little to have the safety release

For sure a current FR pilot could clarify this aspect.

[MaverickPrime]

Definitely.

[FRALH]

Supernumerary Flights (minimum 12 jump seat flights).
Line Training (minimum 66 sectors).

[Jwscud]

12 sectors minimum for safety pilot release.

Minimum 68 sectors total including a 2 sector line check. Both targets are entirely achievable if you are switched on and well prepared.