Easyjet Scholarship for Women...

[Speedoneeighty]

Being a pilot simply isn't appealing to 99% of women.

[ManUtd1999]

No, I'm suggesting that they aren't always encouraged to consider everything.

Agree 100%. There's not enough promotion of STEM careers in general to women or encouragement to apply. f course if women go looking for the advice it is there but it should be more readily available. Applying to STEM careers shouldn't be seen as a rare thing for a female to do. This is getting better (BA among others have launched ad campaigns targeting women in recent years) but there's still work to be done.

If EZY had launched a huge ad campaign packed full of female-pilot representatives I would whole-heartedly support it. What I disagree with is making a financial sponsorship dependent on gender. The financial barriers to males getting on their MPL are exactly the same as they are for women.

[Chris the Robot]

I believe that it is important that companies advertise their vacancies well, however I can't say I believe in targeted ad campaigns. My take is that if someone has the true passion for a career, they won't need to be told to consider it, they'll just get on with it and apply.

My cousin (who is female) considered a career flying airliners but when she saw the cost she walked away, despite the fact that her parents could have afforded the training. So if the airlines to bring back the Hamble days (but with women allowed to apply) they might get more female pilots.

I don't think the £300 assessment days for a mentored airline gig are a great motivator either, train driving roles are often 100 applications per job and yet still the company pays.

[Jwscud]

Originally Posted by Speedoneeighty

Being a pilot simply isn't appealing to 99% of women.

Of course not, too far from the kitchen

Around 10% at my mob are ladies. I support pretty much anything that helps us get towards a more balanced flight deck. The raw fact is, as this thread shows, there is a lot of latent sexism in this profession which is probably more off-putting than anything.

[Chesty Morgan]

Originally Posted by Jwscud

The raw fact is, as this thread shows, there is a lot of latent sexism in this profession which is probably more off-putting than anything.

As demonstrated by the subject and title of the thread.

[Speedoneeighty]

There are far more women in aviation than men.

[Littlest Hobo]

That may be so, but this campaign is about women in the flight deck rather than the industry in general.

[Training Risky]

What profitable airline would choose pilots on any characreristic other than merit?

What passenger would be pleased to hear over the PA: "Ladies and gents, your captain today was selected by her sex, not merit, but rest assured this airline looks good in the diversity statistics!"

There are simple answers to these questions. We all know what they are...

[Elena Ioana]

EZJ offers an opportunity to support women that are skilled but cannot overcome the financial barrier. I have to say that women have less chance to be given a loan because of social mentality. It doesn't matter were the money come from. It could be family support, schollarship, a loan from the bank or anything else..
Aviation is much more than pursuing a career because the pay is good. You have to pass exams that are mandatory after that, the standards are the same for everybody. The society puts pressure on women who put aviation above oher roles because it could be against the species survival. The initiative is like a pressure relief valve.

[fenny]

Yes it's wrong to select a poor female candidate over a competent male, but I really don't think EZY would be willing to throw their £££ away underwriting a loan for someone who they don't think will perform.
Sure it might not be fair, but as a girl I've found the hardest part is finding someone to look up to and I find schemes like this often provide women who I can look up to and talk to about their experiences.

[bulldog89]

Originally Posted by fenny

I really don't think EZY would be willing to throw their £££ away underwriting a loan for someone who they don't think will perform.

Ask BA about this....
Providing loans to female candidates only you'll never know if there are more skilled male pilots, because there's no point in paying 300£ for a selection if you already know you won't be able to finance your training.

Originally Posted by fenny

Sure it might not be fair*, but as a girl I've found the hardest part is finding someone to look up to and I find schemes like this often provide women who I can look up to and talk to about their experiences.

*is not fair

Why do you need to ask women about their experiences? The path should be the same for both men and women...

[Piloteyez]

Originally Posted by ManUtd1999

easyJet launches initiative worth £600K a year to help boost female pilot recruits - Pilot Career News

What are people's thoughts on this? I don't doubt that Easyjet have launched it with the best of intentions but it just feels wrong to me.

The lack of women in the cockpit is of course a big issue and one that airlines should be looking to change. However, the obstacles to women participation are no more financial than they are for men. As a potential cadet without access to 85k in funding I am also a hugely under-represented group in aviation these days but I don't see Easyjet offering to guarantee my loan. What about ethnic minorities, I don't see a scholarship for them? Piloting is one of if not the worst industry for social mobility. For a company earning 686m last year could they not have given the same opportunity to everyone like BA/Aer Lingus?

On the other hand, for women it is a fantastic opportunity...

After having spoken to an easyJet recruitment manager, my understanding is everyone, male and female, has a chance to have their loans underwritten by easyJet, if they are a part of the top performing during selection. The female are also compared against each other and then selected. This initiative is taking it from 6% to 12% of their pilots being female. I think if roles were reversed, men would jump at the opportunity and feel completely worthy if successful, especially given women have the same opportunity in the first instance.

[fenny]

Bulldog89, well it's not fair either that when I've been dispatching a/c I've had a captain refuse to speak to me and ask for another dispatcher, but that's life and I'm not gonna kick up a fuss about that.
And whilst I don't need to speak to women it's nice to hear their experiences as personally I find it easier to relate to them, just like I spoke with women that were working in STEM when I chose to study engineering at uni. It's good to hear their experiences of having time away from work to have children, and hear how they feel that their company respects them just as much as their male counterparts.

[bulldog89]

So you're actually admitting this is not fair. Good, a first step in the right direction.

About the CPT story: I smell bull**** here...anyway if it's true he was just an idiot. Of course you're not "kicking up a fuss" because you can't compare THAT to not be able to access a pilot loan because of your gender. And be aware that this is the official reason, confirmed by the airline, not something we're just supposing.

You don't want to be discriminated (and you aren't) but you want to talk specifically to women pilots...well, this makes a lot of sense...

And now...do you understand that between two pilots, born on the same date, same exam results, same EVERYTHING, easyJet is going to choose the female one just because of her sex? Isn't this the definition of gender discrimination?

[stupotk]

Originally Posted by fenny

And whilst I don't need to speak to women it's nice to hear their experiences as personally I find it easier to relate to them, just like I spoke with women that were working in STEM when I chose to study engineering at uni. It's good to hear their experiences of having time away from work to have children, and hear how they feel that their company respects them just as much as their male counterparts.

I am male, but like you also relate to women more easily.

That does not make it appropriate to positively discriminate.

[WingtipVortex]

Have easyJet quietly removed the exclusivity part of the Amy Johnson scheme to make it available to both females and males?

Incidentally, we seemed to have followed suit with Ryanair and are opening our gates to people trained outside of CAE/ L3, and bonding them rather than extorting them for a TR.

https://easyjet.taleo.net/careersect....ftl?job=08156

[am111]

@WingtipVortex It's not the full sponsorship that the Amy Johnson Iniative was initially set up for, this is just the Type Rating. Reuters article confirms it is open to Male and Female newly qualified pilots but there are only 20 places available.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-ea...KCN1II1KV?il=0

[user2803]

Hello everyone.
I am about to send my CV. So could somebody share their experience regarding the simulator session? The interview process etc?
Did you have any simulator preparation before the interview and if so what do you suggest?
Do you guys get any pre-entry evaluation guidelines?
for the sim session regarding speeds to be used etc?
also, what simulator do they use for the interview?
Thanks in advance

[Airone2977]

Hey folks

It seems they already released some invitation for next week, however it is difficult to confirm the rumour. Still quiet for me.
Does any of you received anything recently ?