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I'm in the same boat, spoke to CTC, and they said due to the flybe MPL and Virgin MPL, they are going to be a bit delayed, the next stage is going to likely be in Feb but they are waiting for easyJet to confirm.
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Hi Guys !
Does any of you folks apply for the "EZY route 4 AQC" program thru CTC ?
CPL MEIR Holder, applied last week and waiting for an answer.
@PFDriver : no you do get a MCC/JOC certificate at the end unless you already have it !
It seems you do get a position upon completion of AQC training. The TR is actually cheaper than the "regular" road.
Good opportunity of you're looking for MCC/JOC; definitely better then RYR at this point.
FIY : Fees include full accommodation during AQC training
Does any of you folks apply for the "EZY route 4 AQC" program thru CTC ?
CPL MEIR Holder, applied last week and waiting for an answer.
@PFDriver : no you do get a MCC/JOC certificate at the end unless you already have it !
It seems you do get a position upon completion of AQC training. The TR is actually cheaper than the "regular" road.
Good opportunity of you're looking for MCC/JOC; definitely better then RYR at this point.
FIY : Fees include full accommodation during AQC training
I canīt contact you via PM, soo..
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Hello everyone!
Intro: I want to apologize in case I am mistaking the thread. As long as I read through the pages, I am not completely understanding which course/programme you are speaking about... my fault!!
However, I applied to Route 4 about 15 days ago, today I got an email from CTC inviting me to take part to the Day 1 assessment in Southampton.
May I ask you what I have to expect from this computer aptitude tests?
I aslo sent an email asking for confirmation about the start and end times, because I am going to plan a 1 day trip...
Thank you very much and sorry again if I am in the wrong place..
Cheers
Intro: I want to apologize in case I am mistaking the thread. As long as I read through the pages, I am not completely understanding which course/programme you are speaking about... my fault!!
However, I applied to Route 4 about 15 days ago, today I got an email from CTC inviting me to take part to the Day 1 assessment in Southampton.
May I ask you what I have to expect from this computer aptitude tests?
I aslo sent an email asking for confirmation about the start and end times, because I am going to plan a 1 day trip...
Thank you very much and sorry again if I am in the wrong place..
Cheers
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@Brimbers, was that in regards to being successful from the 2nd stage (Tests) or the whole thing?
The woman at the school said we would hear about our 2nd stage results by the end of this week, still nothing yet.. (I went on the 16th of Dec)
The woman at the school said we would hear about our 2nd stage results by the end of this week, still nothing yet.. (I went on the 16th of Dec)
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If Easy Jet wants to start in March then if you're selected, then i guess you'll have to make it happen. For me (if successful) on 13 January then I'll struggle to get free for March. Good luck to all involved.
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I also went on the 16th of Dec for stage 2 and heard nothing back yet. I am not sure if they will come back to us this week or after the Christmas break..
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Hi guys, I saw that you are very informed about CTC programs and I would like to have some clarifications..
I'm applying for Route 4 program, There IF you pass all the interviews you will have a conditional letter of offer from easyjet, you should pay 40k for the training and.. after that.. Will they garantee a contract of work with easyjet?? Or Is this not sure? That after that you will finish the training there is the possibility that you don't have a contract?
I don't understand if this is like a pay to fly or what..
I'm applying for Route 4 program, There IF you pass all the interviews you will have a conditional letter of offer from easyjet, you should pay 40k for the training and.. after that.. Will they garantee a contract of work with easyjet?? Or Is this not sure? That after that you will finish the training there is the possibility that you don't have a contract?
I don't understand if this is like a pay to fly or what..
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I apologize in advance as this might not be directly related to the general discussion but I could not find a more appropriate place to post it.
I have a concern about the general nature of the MPL license. I was told by someone on the ATPL integrated course that MPL license holders can only fly as first officers and cannot be upgraded to Captains in the future. Obviously that initially sounded unrealistic as MPL is continuously gaining popularity and the MPL course entry criteria are more strict than on the ATPL.
Just to clear out any doubt I did some research and I found out that even though it's generally said that, as an MPL holder, after you reach 1500 hrs you can convert your license into an ATPL (unfrozen) there is a so called "multi-crew" limitation on your ATPL license which does not allow you to become Pilot in Command aka Captain.
Quote from the UK CAA website "There are two other training options, not already discussed. One is the Multi-Crew Pilot Licence (MPL) which some, although not all, UK airlines have adopted. MPL training is generally shorter and less onerous. However, MPL graduates are effectively restricted to the right-hand seat in the cockpit to fly only as First Officers. To become a Captain, the MPL holder would still need to acquire an ATPL."
Also its said that there are no records yet of MPL pilots who have moved to the left-hand seat in the cockpit as the program was first launched less than 8 years ago.
Is there anyone who can shed some light into this from their own experience?
Apologies for the long post.
I have a concern about the general nature of the MPL license. I was told by someone on the ATPL integrated course that MPL license holders can only fly as first officers and cannot be upgraded to Captains in the future. Obviously that initially sounded unrealistic as MPL is continuously gaining popularity and the MPL course entry criteria are more strict than on the ATPL.
Just to clear out any doubt I did some research and I found out that even though it's generally said that, as an MPL holder, after you reach 1500 hrs you can convert your license into an ATPL (unfrozen) there is a so called "multi-crew" limitation on your ATPL license which does not allow you to become Pilot in Command aka Captain.
Quote from the UK CAA website "There are two other training options, not already discussed. One is the Multi-Crew Pilot Licence (MPL) which some, although not all, UK airlines have adopted. MPL training is generally shorter and less onerous. However, MPL graduates are effectively restricted to the right-hand seat in the cockpit to fly only as First Officers. To become a Captain, the MPL holder would still need to acquire an ATPL."
Also its said that there are no records yet of MPL pilots who have moved to the left-hand seat in the cockpit as the program was first launched less than 8 years ago.
Is there anyone who can shed some light into this from their own experience?
Apologies for the long post.
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@antonioGr,
Apologies for the long post back, but I hope this can clear up some of the confusion / concern. As a little background, I too shared significant concern over the MPL during my journey to join an FTO. I researched it quite a bit prior to jumping in the deep end and applying.
Where is his source for this? Having previously applied for the easyJet MPL and Virgin MPL prior to joining the ATPL at CTC I have never once heard this mentioned. There is a lot, and I mean a lot of stigma towards MPL licences among people who prefer the ATPL. However, I compare this as being no different to a passenger swearing by one carrier and never trying another despite all the convincing in the world - creatures of habits us human beings.
I would take the "someone on a course told me" or "someone I know on a course has told me" with a pinch of salt. Being at an FTO now I can tell you now the places are rumour mills!!
Last time I checked being a captain still requires you to work in a multi-crew environment. The difference between the MPL and ATPL is that you do not conduct any single pilot training, or as much therefore and thus are not considered qualified for single pilot commercial operations. This explains the restriction. But, if you plan to fly for easyJet or another MPL operator you'd be in the multi-crew environment for which the very licence was created. I can't see it being an issue.
This isn't all that different to an ATPL. In a nutshell the MPL delivers airline training at lower costs to all parties involved. An MPL cadet saves tens of thousands of pounds on programs such as easyJet's MPL versus the equivalent whitetail cadet joining the same airline who would have to pay their own type rating. Training that isn't appropriate to airline operations is taken out of schedule altogether. Namely, some single pilot ops mentioned above etc.
But back to your point, an MPL graduate is restricted to the RHS as much as your frozen ATPL graduate would be. Each require 1500 hours at a minimum before they can 'convert' their MPL to an ATPL or 'unfreeze' their frozen ATPL for it too to become an ATPL. At this point, both would then have an ATPL licence and I can presume, any pilot with the aforementioned and the hour requirements for any position can then go on to apply for command at the airline. The difference, as I touched on above, is the individual converting their MPL would, by the very nature of MPLs training, be 'multi-crew operation' restricted meaning that flying the line in your easyJet A320 wouldn't be an issue, but being a one man pilot in your single-pilot private jet as part of a commercial operation would be be.
As a side, easyJet is very heavily invested in the MPL and was one of the first carriers to get involved. In my mind, they have faith in it and now have employees flying the line with one too. I wouldn't be too concerned, as at the end of the day the Generation easyJet program is a great one.
Hope this helps.
Apologies for the long post back, but I hope this can clear up some of the confusion / concern. As a little background, I too shared significant concern over the MPL during my journey to join an FTO. I researched it quite a bit prior to jumping in the deep end and applying.
I was told by someone on the ATPL integrated course that MPL license holders can only fly as first officers and cannot be upgraded to Captains in the future.
I would take the "someone on a course told me" or "someone I know on a course has told me" with a pinch of salt. Being at an FTO now I can tell you now the places are rumour mills!!
after you reach 1500 hrs you can convert your license into an ATPL (unfrozen) there is a so called "multi-crew" limitation on your ATPL license which does not allow you to become Pilot in Command aka Captain.
MPL training is generally shorter and less onerous. However, MPL graduates are effectively restricted to the right-hand seat in the cockpit to fly only as First Officers. To become a Captain, the MPL holder would still need to acquire an ATPL.
But back to your point, an MPL graduate is restricted to the RHS as much as your frozen ATPL graduate would be. Each require 1500 hours at a minimum before they can 'convert' their MPL to an ATPL or 'unfreeze' their frozen ATPL for it too to become an ATPL. At this point, both would then have an ATPL licence and I can presume, any pilot with the aforementioned and the hour requirements for any position can then go on to apply for command at the airline. The difference, as I touched on above, is the individual converting their MPL would, by the very nature of MPLs training, be 'multi-crew operation' restricted meaning that flying the line in your easyJet A320 wouldn't be an issue, but being a one man pilot in your single-pilot private jet as part of a commercial operation would be be.
As a side, easyJet is very heavily invested in the MPL and was one of the first carriers to get involved. In my mind, they have faith in it and now have employees flying the line with one too. I wouldn't be too concerned, as at the end of the day the Generation easyJet program is a great one.
Hope this helps.
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@gbotley
Thank you so much for the quick, detailed and to-the-point reply.
I really appreciate your time explaining every single part of my concern.
As you said, you should take others opinions about your own plans -especially when coming from individuals that applied on the course and didn't make it through, with a pinch of salt.
As you might recall yourself, before making such a big investment as this, you become easily concerned from anything you hear which indicate that the path you are choosing might not be the right one for you. Because our choices must reflect our career aspirations.
You covered me perfectly.
Thanks a lot again mate and good luck with your course!
Thank you so much for the quick, detailed and to-the-point reply.
I really appreciate your time explaining every single part of my concern.
As you said, you should take others opinions about your own plans -especially when coming from individuals that applied on the course and didn't make it through, with a pinch of salt.
As you might recall yourself, before making such a big investment as this, you become easily concerned from anything you hear which indicate that the path you are choosing might not be the right one for you. Because our choices must reflect our career aspirations.
You covered me perfectly.
Thanks a lot again mate and good luck with your course!
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@TheHighFlyah, Did you apply to the easyJet MPL and Virgin MPL both with CTC? You can only have one application open at a time and if that is the case, they have progressed your Virgin application have they not? :-)