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Old 18th Dec 2016, 23:42
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I think forking out on sims etc is overkill.

Save your cash and give it another go as soon as you can. I failed the OAA pilapt in June (Got lost like the rest of you). Went back in october, spent nothing on any sim or joystick and passed to phase 3 of the ezy mpl selection.

What did I do that made me pass in October that I didn't do in June? I actually read the piece of paper in front of me. All headings at every leg/waypoint are on the sheet. Doesn't matter if you forgot what was said into the headphone, if you overshoot the waypoint, still turn to the heading given on the sheet for that particular point, you can't have gone that far.

In all the shaking over how tough it was i completely forgot the headings, speeds etc were all bloody in front of me, i spent ages flying hopelessly over no man's land. Second time round i was a lot more prepared though and took advantage of that paper given. Try the same.
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Old 19th Dec 2016, 03:48
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Have to agree with Momo, all the information is right in front of you on the piece of paper.
They way to look at this, pay attention to your heading. As long as your heading is good you HAVE to fly over your way point, then you can adjust your speed and altitude. Get your head out of the cockpit and identify your turn point, you can make them out. And then use that as your reference to fly to.
Good luck for your retest.
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Old 19th Dec 2016, 11:04
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Has anybody got an idea when we will find out which route we will be allocated for EZY CAE OAA? Also what are the start dates?

Much appreciated in advance
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Old 19th Dec 2016, 11:35
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I spoke to OAA last week, they are hoping to get back to us before the end of the week. If not, then it's gonna be a long Christmas break...
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Old 19th Dec 2016, 12:02
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Looks like BBVA will have a busy January
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Old 21st Dec 2016, 09:35
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I'm in the same boat, spoke to CTC, and they said due to the flybe MPL and Virgin MPL, they are going to be a bit delayed, the next stage is going to likely be in Feb but they are waiting for easyJet to confirm.
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Old 21st Dec 2016, 11:40
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Originally Posted by Airone2977 View Post
Hi Guys !

Does any of you folks apply for the "EZY route 4 AQC" program thru CTC ?
CPL MEIR Holder, applied last week and waiting for an answer.

@PFDriver : no you do get a MCC/JOC certificate at the end unless you already have it !
It seems you do get a position upon completion of AQC training. The TR is actually cheaper than the "regular" road.
Good opportunity of you're looking for MCC/JOC; definitely better then RYR at this point.
FIY : Fees include full accommodation during AQC training
HI! I wanted to contact you cause Ive also been invited to an assessment, and it would be amazing if we can share insight, I got no clue of what they are looking for, and I am going to spend a lot of time searching for info.
I can´t contact you via PM, soo..
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Old 21st Dec 2016, 11:59
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Hello everyone!
Intro: I want to apologize in case I am mistaking the thread. As long as I read through the pages, I am not completely understanding which course/programme you are speaking about... my fault!!

However, I applied to Route 4 about 15 days ago, today I got an email from CTC inviting me to take part to the Day 1 assessment in Southampton.
May I ask you what I have to expect from this computer aptitude tests?

I aslo sent an email asking for confirmation about the start and end times, because I am going to plan a 1 day trip...

Thank you very much and sorry again if I am in the wrong place..

Cheers
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Old 23rd Dec 2016, 09:29
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Have any OAA candidates heard anything from the school or easyJet?
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Old 23rd Dec 2016, 10:39
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Only that I was successful, nothing on the routes. I'm struggling to see how they intend to start applicants in as early as March.
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Old 23rd Dec 2016, 11:01
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We won't hear back until January, so I'd be very surprised if easyJet puts us on the March course...

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Old 23rd Dec 2016, 11:18
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@Brimbers, was that in regards to being successful from the 2nd stage (Tests) or the whole thing?

The woman at the school said we would hear about our 2nd stage results by the end of this week, still nothing yet.. (I went on the 16th of Dec)
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Old 23rd Dec 2016, 14:00
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If Easy Jet wants to start in March then if you're selected, then i guess you'll have to make it happen. For me (if successful) on 13 January then I'll struggle to get free for March. Good luck to all involved.
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Old 24th Dec 2016, 00:12
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Originally Posted by TheHighFlyah View Post
@Brimbers, was that in regards to being successful from the 2nd stage (Tests) or the whole thing?

The woman at the school said we would hear about our 2nd stage results by the end of this week, still nothing yet.. (I went on the 16th of Dec)
I also went on the 16th of Dec for stage 2 and heard nothing back yet. I am not sure if they will come back to us this week or after the Christmas break..
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Old 24th Dec 2016, 14:31
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Does anybody know when CTC will be back at the offices?
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Old 24th Dec 2016, 17:28
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Hi guys, I saw that you are very informed about CTC programs and I would like to have some clarifications..
I'm applying for Route 4 program, There IF you pass all the interviews you will have a conditional letter of offer from easyjet, you should pay 40k for the training and.. after that.. Will they garantee a contract of work with easyjet?? Or Is this not sure? That after that you will finish the training there is the possibility that you don't have a contract?
I don't understand if this is like a pay to fly or what..
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Old 25th Dec 2016, 00:21
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http://www.pprune.org/interviews-job...questions.html
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Old 25th Dec 2016, 09:46
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Originally Posted by antonioGr View Post
I also went on the 16th of Dec for stage 2 and heard nothing back yet. I am not sure if they will come back to us this week or after the Christmas break..
Yeah, hopefully it will be soon though!
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Old 1st Jan 2017, 19:38
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I apologize in advance as this might not be directly related to the general discussion but I could not find a more appropriate place to post it.

I have a concern about the general nature of the MPL license. I was told by someone on the ATPL integrated course that MPL license holders can only fly as first officers and cannot be upgraded to Captains in the future. Obviously that initially sounded unrealistic as MPL is continuously gaining popularity and the MPL course entry criteria are more strict than on the ATPL.

Just to clear out any doubt I did some research and I found out that even though it's generally said that, as an MPL holder, after you reach 1500 hrs you can convert your license into an ATPL (unfrozen) there is a so called "multi-crew" limitation on your ATPL license which does not allow you to become Pilot in Command aka Captain.

Quote from the UK CAA website "There are two other training options, not already discussed. One is the Multi-Crew Pilot Licence (MPL) which some, although not all, UK airlines have adopted. MPL training is generally shorter and less onerous. However, MPL graduates are effectively restricted to the right-hand seat in the cockpit to fly only as First Officers. To become a Captain, the MPL holder would still need to acquire an ATPL."

Also its said that there are no records yet of MPL pilots who have moved to the left-hand seat in the cockpit as the program was first launched less than 8 years ago.

Is there anyone who can shed some light into this from their own experience?

Apologies for the long post.

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Old 1st Jan 2017, 22:03
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@antonioGr,

Apologies for the long post back, but I hope this can clear up some of the confusion / concern. As a little background, I too shared significant concern over the MPL during my journey to join an FTO. I researched it quite a bit prior to jumping in the deep end and applying.

I was told by someone on the ATPL integrated course that MPL license holders can only fly as first officers and cannot be upgraded to Captains in the future.
Where is his source for this? Having previously applied for the easyJet MPL and Virgin MPL prior to joining the ATPL at CTC I have never once heard this mentioned. There is a lot, and I mean a lot of stigma towards MPL licences among people who prefer the ATPL. However, I compare this as being no different to a passenger swearing by one carrier and never trying another despite all the convincing in the world - creatures of habits us human beings.

I would take the "someone on a course told me" or "someone I know on a course has told me" with a pinch of salt. Being at an FTO now I can tell you now the places are rumour mills!!

after you reach 1500 hrs you can convert your license into an ATPL (unfrozen) there is a so called "multi-crew" limitation on your ATPL license which does not allow you to become Pilot in Command aka Captain.
Last time I checked being a captain still requires you to work in a multi-crew environment. The difference between the MPL and ATPL is that you do not conduct any single pilot training, or as much therefore and thus are not considered qualified for single pilot commercial operations. This explains the restriction. But, if you plan to fly for easyJet or another MPL operator you'd be in the multi-crew environment for which the very licence was created. I can't see it being an issue.

MPL training is generally shorter and less onerous. However, MPL graduates are effectively restricted to the right-hand seat in the cockpit to fly only as First Officers. To become a Captain, the MPL holder would still need to acquire an ATPL.
This isn't all that different to an ATPL. In a nutshell the MPL delivers airline training at lower costs to all parties involved. An MPL cadet saves tens of thousands of pounds on programs such as easyJet's MPL versus the equivalent whitetail cadet joining the same airline who would have to pay their own type rating. Training that isn't appropriate to airline operations is taken out of schedule altogether. Namely, some single pilot ops mentioned above etc.

But back to your point, an MPL graduate is restricted to the RHS as much as your frozen ATPL graduate would be. Each require 1500 hours at a minimum before they can 'convert' their MPL to an ATPL or 'unfreeze' their frozen ATPL for it too to become an ATPL. At this point, both would then have an ATPL licence and I can presume, any pilot with the aforementioned and the hour requirements for any position can then go on to apply for command at the airline. The difference, as I touched on above, is the individual converting their MPL would, by the very nature of MPLs training, be 'multi-crew operation' restricted meaning that flying the line in your easyJet A320 wouldn't be an issue, but being a one man pilot in your single-pilot private jet as part of a commercial operation would be be.

As a side, easyJet is very heavily invested in the MPL and was one of the first carriers to get involved. In my mind, they have faith in it and now have employees flying the line with one too. I wouldn't be too concerned, as at the end of the day the Generation easyJet program is a great one.

Hope this helps.
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